The 2nd coming of Gavin.
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300+ yards passing, Athan’s not the problem. This is the best passing offense we’ve has since Nova
Certainly not the 2nd coming of Gavin.
Ak looked solid on that drive in the 3rd with the 2 point conversion.
The defense was struggling to stop anything.
Look at the stats in the box score and the numbers were fairly close.
The defense was struggling to stop anything.
Look at the stats in the box score and the numbers were fairly close.
Delusional. He dropped some nice ones Gavin could only dream. Sure, a couple he missed. But overall pretty good game
Makes some nice throws
No INT
But he missed a 100% TD to Miller on 4th down…. One of worst throws I’ve ever seen.
Missed an 85% TD with miller at the 10 and the DB behind him at the 13-14 yard line
Missed another TD to miller on the goal line out
Then next play missed Monangai for a walk in TD
Late …. Miller was only player on my TV , threw ball to sideline forcing miller to out of bounds 3 yards short of first down ….Same series missed wide open miller on 4th down
No INT
But he missed a 100% TD to Miller on 4th down…. One of worst throws I’ve ever seen.
Missed an 85% TD with miller at the 10 and the DB behind him at the 13-14 yard line
Missed another TD to miller on the goal line out
Then next play missed Monangai for a walk in TD
Late …. Miller was only player on my TV , threw ball to sideline forcing miller to out of bounds 3 yards short of first down ….Same series missed wide open miller on 4th down
Maybe you should review all of the "every pass by Gavin Wimsatt" threads from last year.
When you make a comment like this, it is really helpful to know which post in the thread you are critiquing.
AK is an upgrade and gives us a good chance to win. He makes a lot of good throws. He also is consistently inconsistent. Two things can be true at the same time.
Ridiculous. Obviously the OP.
Fans are prone to hyperbole after a losing skid. See the Mets threads.
We are 4-4. Does he give us a good chance to win? His best throw is to the outside to a wide open WR. Can’t throw over the middle at all.
Athan may not be Cj Stoud but has thrown for 1650 yds and 9 TD through 8 games. Gavin threw for 1735 yds and 9 tds all of last year. Athan will blow by that with a higher completion % and less ints.
USC got a lot of pressure all night. I think it was consistent enough to the point where AK was sloppy with his footwork even when he wasn't pressured. He basically began anticipating pressure imo.
He played ok. Made some good throws, off on others.
He threw a skinny post on the missed TD to Miller. While it was too deep, Miller wasn't running a skinny post. They got on the same page later in the game and almost a 3rd time but Miller dropped that TD.
I hate the fade to short side and the fade in general. If doing it, put duff in the slot. There are a lot of route options from there. USC did this on the Loyal PI (Loyal was cooked).
He played ok. Made some good throws, off on others.
He threw a skinny post on the missed TD to Miller. While it was too deep, Miller wasn't running a skinny post. They got on the same page later in the game and almost a 3rd time but Miller dropped that TD.
I hate the fade to short side and the fade in general. If doing it, put duff in the slot. There are a lot of route options from there. USC did this on the Loyal PI (Loyal was cooked).
Not his best game last night. 1000% better than Gavin.
Without the PI, this was a TD. "AT ALL" is hyperbole. Maybe KC only likes outside routes because that is what Greg dictates because "the ball is the program." Maybe they should change to "the program has balls" and open up the offense and go for it.
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And yet HC Schiano chose to not only bring him in, but name him starter in the Spring.
Would you say HC Schiano potentially tanked the season before it even started by picking AK so early?
IMO, Athan isn’t the problem, but isn’t really the solution, either.
I am impressed with our WRs - a deep group.
I am impressed with our WRs - a deep group.
No, that’s the OC. If they didn’t have prior history, GS would never bring him in.
Rutgers is scoring and moving the ball. I'm still surprised some are blaming the offensive players. The offense isn't perfect but it is operational. OC and philosophy are still issues but the personnel are mostly performing. Did anyone expect them to match and exceed opponents scoring at will?
D wins games with even just a reasonable O.But there must be a decent D to have this happen
The TD to Dremel was pretty nice. He's capable of throwing over the middle, but those are always riskier throws and he does tend to lock on to a WR, which is a bad habit when throwing over the middle against well designed defensive schemes where a QB can miss where a defender is, leading to INT chances.
I decided to rewatch GW every throw in the Iowa game (poor game for GW). It is very obvious WRs couldn’t get open last year. Most of AKs completions are to wide open WRs. AK wouldn’t complete more than 50% of those passes and probably would have more picks because he keeps throwing behind WRs.
Without the PI, this was a TD. "AT ALL" is hyperbole. Maybe KC only likes outside routes because that is what Greg dictates because "the ball is the program." Maybe they should change to "the program has balls" and open up the offense and go for it.
And middle throws were taken out of the playbook for Gavin… entire parts of the play book were eliminated for Gavin because of what he couldn’t do.
The program has balls ...lol.
Without the PI, this was a TD. "AT ALL" is hyperbole. Maybe KC only likes outside routes because that is what Greg dictates because "the ball is the program." Maybe they should change to "the program has balls" and open up the offense and go for it.
I'd buy that T.
We went for multiple 4th downs in FG range where we could’ve kicked FGs because we were down. Being down was entirely on the D.
if you really think AK wouldn’t have completed 50% of his passes on last year’s roster then I don’t know what to tell you. Last season we needed to be able to execute short dinky passes and Gavin couldn’t. That was all we needed to be much better.
We had a better OL last year with Felter. We had healthy tight ends that could’ve been thrown to with an adequate short passer. And Gavin didn’t have to attempt a ton of low percentage throws because we were chasing points. Only a few games like that where he did awful each times. AK throws much more volume. Everything about our offense was based on having a good D and it turned out the D isn’t even servicable. That is the problem. Not AK.
Just watched the ever thrown by GW for the Wisc game. It is so obvious that Ds had zero fear of our WRs running by them. I would argue that GW made more and completed more tight window throws than AK. Feel free to watch and compare.
Just watch the every throw videos. The OL protection was not better. Coverage was much tighter because no respect for speed. There is a reason we stall in the red zone. D doesn’t have to worry about people running by them. AK needs to make tighter window throws and he can’t.
That’s my point. If D Miller was on the team last year, GW would complete over 50% of his passes. If you watch every throw by AK vs USC. It is amazing how open D Miller is. They are so afraid of his speed that they concede the underneath outs until they get into the red zone. It’s too bad Miller is one and done.
Rutgers scores? Athan had the ball in nebraska territory 9 times and scored 7 points. Rutgers ran 89 plays last night and scored 20 points against a team missing their entire secondary. Those are facts. Average qbs in any conference put up more points than those performances. He is not good. Serviceable back up but no starter in the BIG.
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The D has been g-d awful the last 3 games and the players appeared to have checked out. I hope that is not the case. We will see in 2 weeks. The lack of focus, blown assignments, poor tackling, uninspired play, lack of takeaways, etc. has sealed our fate apparently.
