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Discussion in 'Current Events, Politics and Off Topic Banter' started by BROTHERSKINNY, Jun 11, 2019.
As Kbee says.. "so true"
Except republicans are known election cheaters
Yet the only verified cheating/election fraud was perpetrated by Republican congressional candidates in Virginia and North Carolina.
OP really needs to at least try to get his facts straight. I guess it's what happens when you post pure BS for what is currently 15 straight hours and counting.
Not a good look my friend based on the facts.
What facts? We should allow people to vote who can't be identified? We require ID for just about everything else now, why should requiring an ID to vote be a problem? Especially when states will issue a non-DL ID to anyone?
The facts that no Dem has been accused of cheating or committing voter fraud
yet 1 and perhaps 2 Republican candidates may be headed to jail.
Pretty sure #1 is what’s known as an “opinion.” If you don’t know what that is, look it up.
Regarding #2, good to know.
doesn't matter.. see the OP.
In fact, because GOPers cheated, the Dems should be MORE inclined to support voter ID.. instead they are less inclined.. why?
ID's would have had no effect in the Va and NC cases. They both involved mail in ballots so your point is moot.
So.. is that your argument against voter ID cards.. that it wouldn't catch a cheating method that is already catchable?
I don't think it's necessary being there's been no evidence that there's a problem as we saw with Trump's big voter fraud commission and the botched Texas republican fiasco. The one real problem has been Republicans trying to falsify the results.
I remember when 16,000 dead folk in Chicago cast a vote for JFK. Does that count as fraud?
Call us when the Constitution includes the right to board a plane
Your side is the one where there's evidence of cheating...did you miss what happened in NC?
I really will never understand opposition for required picture ID when voting.
Why would anyone be against this?
1) Not everyone has a photo ID- and no GOP laws have made them easier to access and free
2) Basically every "Voter ID" law the GOP passed contained provisions to eliminate or limit early voting, voting on college campuses, shut down polling locations in minority and/or young areas...
How difficult is it to get a photo ID? Not difficult at all.
I also think early voting is ridiculous. It's called Election DAY for a reason.
That being said I'd agree to having an Election Weekend. A three day time frame to vote in person
If you were born in a rural area of the US or a poor country, you may not have a birth certificate. You may have lost it. You may not have anyone to take you to get it and be too ill to drive. How about those people?
Not everyone can vote on a Tuesday. How about mail in ballots, as implemented by the Republican Secretary of State in OR long before ALEC told the GOP to try to limit the vote?
Which is why I propose making a 3 day weekend to vote. I think that voting weeks before Election Day is ridiculous.
Absentee ballots are fine.
Born ...in a poor country.
Since to vote you need to be a citizen this would be moot. You've already established who you are. Part of the citizenship ceremony should be that you are issued a photo voting ID card. I think that would be a proud moment for any new citizen.
Great, but it's not that way now. One of my best friends, his parents are Christians born in the Middle East, very Republican. They are citizens of the US. They don't know their exact birth date because the country they were born in didn't record it at that time. Should they be penalized?
How are they penalized??
You said that they are citizens. They had to put some birth date on their form. Since whatever date that is on that form has been recognized by their new country via their acceptance as citizens there should be no problem. How about their passport or visa? They also have date of birth boxes.
Also, do they drive. There had to be some type of birth date on that application also.
p.s. Not sure why you felt it necessary to mention their politics or their religion. Makes no difference to me. Everyone plays by the same rules.
Hope I was helpful in my last message. If there is something I'm missing please let me know. I have family members who are retired INS (that's what they use to be called) and U.S. Customs and they maybe able to give me information that may help your friends parents. [thumb2]