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Thursday Results of Interest - And The Week So Far

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Every so often I think I will post this. Thursday 11/21 had a full slate of college games. I found a number of games of interest. Obviously, RU opponents, Big Ten teams are of the most interest, but there are always other interesting games.

Big Ten Teams:

1) Indiana beat UNC Greensboro - by 11 points.

2) Michigan on easily and big over Tarleton St - by 23 (Tarleton w/i 13 with 7 minutes left)

3) Oregon rallied, on the road, to beat Oregon St., after being down 10 at the half.

4) On Wednesday, FYI: Penn State did beat Purdue-Fort Worth, 102-89 .. trailed by 11 late in the 1st half, trailed at half, and trailed with 13 minutes left, before pulling away.

Major Conference Games:

1) Baylor beat St. Johns with a 3 at the buzzer, in 2 OT - heartbreaker after St. Johns missed 2 FT's. Note: Top 5 projected pick Edgecombe, who is starting for Baylor and having a decent start to the season (10 ppg?), was 4-15 FG, 10 points.

2) On a neutral court, Syracuse lost to Texas - a quality loss.

3) In a neutral court game, U of Miami LOST, to a currently undefeated Drake team, 80-69 ... Drake won while going 4-19 from 3 ... but it was not even that close: After going down 7-3, Syracuse NEVER had the ball with a chance to even tie the game - they trailed by 7-10 points essentially the entire game, though got to within 5 points after just 2 made baskets in the 2nd half, and to within 4 points one time.

4) Nobody but me probably cares, but my best friend is a huge Virginia fan: UVA got crushed 68-42 by Tennessee ... looks like UVA will continue to have trouble scoring this year.

5) Oklahoma St lost to Florida Atlantic.

6) St. Josephs BEAT Texas Tech, 78-77 ... As pointed out elsewhere, Simpson played 36 minutes, 0-6 FG, 0-2 3-point, 0 points ... he did have 5 assists and just 1 turnover. St. Joes, it looks like, basically goes just 6 deep ... with maybe a 7th player getting 8-12 minutes per game.

7) Vandy squeaked by a potentially good Nevada team.


RU Opponents:

1) SHU beat VCU - important win for them ... 69-66. Strange early season for SHU. They have just 1 player averaging mor than 9 ppg: Chaunce Jenkins (16/g), and just 2 players even averaging 8 ppg or better (Wusu averages 8 ppg) ... 2 other players average 7.5 ppg.

2) On Tuesday, Wagner beat BU, 60-58

3) St. Peter's has won 2 games since the RU game (though 1 was entirely meaningless, and the other was against a weak team).

4) Monmouth has struggled since the RU game, losing to Youngstown St and Wichita St.

5) Kennesaw St won Wednesday night, vs Abilene Christian, 84-78. They score a lot, and shoot a fair amount of 3's. Their leading scorer, Cottle, averages almost 19 per game - and have 3 other double digit scorers, shoot 38% from 3 as a team with their top 2 volume 3-point shooters each shooting 48% or better from 3.

6) Notre Dame is 4-0, winning easily Tuesday over North Dakota. Beat Georgetown, Stonehill easily, and won by 9 over Buffalo (after trailing at half time). They have a star scorer, in Burton, averaging 20 ppg, plus 2 other double-digit scorers, including the coach's son.

7) Princeton lost Thursday night to a 4-2 Wright St team - and now sits at 4-2 themselves (they had previously lost to what may be a good Loyola-Chicago team, beating Iona, Duquesne, Northeastern and Merrimack (Clark scored 24 against Princeton, FYI).

8) COLUMBIA, FYI, is currently 6-0, if you can believe it. They beat Long Island U on Wednesday on the road. Columbia has beaten Villanova (on the road, Loyola-MD (on the road), Mercy, Delaware St and Lehigh ... the jewel being Villanova (even with Villanove being obviously weak this year, that is a very good win for Columbia)
 
That Princeton result was pretty shocking yesterday. Are they just Lee and Pierce this year?
 
Every so often I think I will post this. Thursday 11/21 had a full slate of college games. I found a number of games of interest. Obviously, RU opponents, Big Ten teams are of the most interest, but there are always other interesting games.

Big Ten Teams:

1) Indiana beat UNC Greensboro - by 11 points.

2) Michigan on easily and big over Tarleton St - by 23 (Tarleton w/i 13 with 7 minutes left)

3) Oregon rallied, on the road, to beat Oregon St., after being down 10 at the half.

4) On Wednesday, FYI: Penn State did beat Purdue-Fort Worth, 102-89 .. trailed by 11 late in the 1st half, trailed at half, and trailed with 13 minutes left, before pulling away.

Major Conference Games:

1) Baylor beat St. Johns with a 3 at the buzzer, in 2 OT - heartbreaker after St. Johns missed 2 FT's. Note: Top 5 projected pick Edgecombe, who is starting for Baylor and having a decent start to the season (10 ppg?), was 4-15 FG, 10 points.

2) On a neutral court, Syracuse lost to Texas - a quality loss.

3) In a neutral court game, U of Miami LOST, to a currently undefeated Drake team, 80-69 ... Drake won while going 4-19 from 3 ... but it was not even that close: After going down 7-3, Syracuse NEVER had the ball with a chance to even tie the game - they trailed by 7-10 points essentially the entire game, though got to within 5 points after just 2 made baskets in the 2nd half, and to within 4 points one time.

4) Nobody but me probably cares, but my best friend is a huge Virginia fan: UVA got crushed 68-42 by Tennessee ... looks like UVA will continue to have trouble scoring this year.

5) Oklahoma St lost to Florida Atlantic.

6) St. Josephs BEAT Texas Tech, 78-77 ... As pointed out elsewhere, Simpson played 36 minutes, 0-6 FG, 0-2 3-point, 0 points ... he did have 5 assists and just 1 turnover. St. Joes, it looks like, basically goes just 6 deep ... with maybe a 7th player getting 8-12 minutes per game.

7) Vandy squeaked by a potentially good Nevada team.


RU Opponents:

1) SHU beat VCU - important win for them ... 69-66. Strange early season for SHU. They have just 1 player averaging mor than 9 ppg: Chaunce Jenkins (16/g), and just 2 players even averaging 8 ppg or better (Wusu averages 8 ppg) ... 2 other players average 7.5 ppg.

2) On Tuesday, Wagner beat BU, 60-58

3) St. Peter's has won 2 games since the RU game (though 1 was entirely meaningless, and the other was against a weak team).

4) Monmouth has struggled since the RU game, losing to Youngstown St and Wichita St.

5) Kennesaw St won Wednesday night, vs Abilene Christian, 84-78. They score a lot, and shoot a fair amount of 3's. Their leading scorer, Cottle, averages almost 19 per game - and have 3 other double digit scorers, shoot 38% from 3 as a team with their top 2 volume 3-point shooters each shooting 48% or better from 3.

6) Notre Dame is 4-0, winning easily Tuesday over North Dakota. Beat Georgetown, Stonehill easily, and won by 9 over Buffalo (after trailing at half time). They have a star scorer, in Burton, averaging 20 ppg, plus 2 other double-digit scorers, including the coach's son.

7) Princeton lost Thursday night to a 4-2 Wright St team - and now sits at 4-2 themselves (they had previously lost to what may be a good Loyola-Chicago team, beating Iona, Duquesne, Northeastern and Merrimack (Clark scored 24 against Princeton, FYI).

8) COLUMBIA, FYI, is currently 6-0, if you can believe it. They beat Long Island U on Wednesday on the road. Columbia has beaten Villanova (on the road, Loyola-MD (on the road), Mercy, Delaware St and Lehigh ... the jewel being Villanova (even with Villanove being obviously weak this year, that is a very good win for Columbia)
Great summary of action from last night. Every night we will see a result we did not expect. No great teams this year so far but talent overall is better this year than in the last few years.
I end up watching a ton of games even the late games and what I am seeing is a ton of good offense and so so defense. Teams are playing hard. Enjoyable season so far. Great matchups the next 10 days or so.
 
Merrimack held to 8 points in the 2nd half by Butler falling 78-39

Nebby up on Creighton 35-24 at half

Wisconsin dispatched UCF 86-70

Elon has just pulled ahead of Notre Dame 66-65 with over 8 to go

Iowa up 37-33 on Utah State at half

Northwestern up 31-19 over Pepperdine at half

Seton Hall falls to Vandy 76-60
 
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Princeton down again, this time to Texas State.

Elon beating Notre Dame as well.
 
Huge week ahead for RU, we haven’t had a non conference chance like this in a decade plus. I don’t think many fans realize how big Vegas is in grand scheme of things for tourney at large and seeding, 2 wins there and dare I say 3 wins, and RU is finally playing from ahead when bubble talk starts, assuming RU doesn’t crash and burn in big ten conference games
 
That Merrimack score is a bad sign for our defense
With the preface that our defense has not played well, Merrimack was also in a brutal situation tonight. 8 p.m. ET tip in Jersey Wednesday night, then a bus ride to Indianapolis for a Friday game. Status quo for a lot of LMs, but I’m hardly surprised they fell apart late
 
With the preface that our defense has not played well, Merrimack was also in a brutal situation tonight. 8 p.m. ET tip in Jersey Wednesday night, then a bus ride to Indianapolis for a Friday game. Status quo for a lot of LMs, but I’m hardly surprised they fell apart late
Their two best players, Clark and Trumper, played a combined 79 minutes against us, and only 55 minutes against Butler. They obviously went all in to try and beat us, and those minutes took their toll (along with the short rest and travel, as you pointed out) in the second half at Butler.
 
Their two best players, Clark and Trumper, played a combined 79 minutes against us, and only 55 minutes against Butler. They obviously went all in to try and beat us, and those minutes took their toll (along with the short rest and travel, as you pointed out) in the second half at Butler.
Interesting point. And Pikiell has warned that because of the hype of RU getting and having both Harper and Bailey many teams, especially the local OOC teams, are going to be sky high to play RU, are seeing the RU games a their super bowl. We should expect those teams to perhaps have their best game of the year against RU.

Also, to those who say that the results of other games (like wagner scoring just 28 vs SHU, or the Merrimack score) are bad signs for RU, remember that in college scores are NOT transitive. Because these are all kids, and because each game is so match-up driven, and because each game depends so much on a game to game somewhat random shooting result (a team can go 3-20 from 3 one game with all open shots, or 11-23 another game taking the same open shots), you just can't draw conclusions based on relative scores.

That said, I KNOW RU has to improve its defense. We all know this. And I am sure they will do so. We just don't know yet how quickly... And it likely won't be a straight line improvement.

One more thing: vs Merrimack RU had a poor 2-point shooting night. Even a decent 50% from 2-point range and RU would have won by 25-30 points and there would be many fewer angsty posts.

I will say, I watched some of the start of thec2nd half of the Merrimack game. I was shaking my head. I think Merrimack was only able to score 2 points in the first 12 minutes of the 2nd half! That was crazy! I think Merrimack was down 37-31 at half? But with 8 minutes left had just 33 points?
 
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