UC Regents let UCLA move to Big Ten
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SF/SV is not a rabid college football market. It is more pro sports oriented (ala NYC area). LA was without a pro team for years so USC was the defacto team everyone followed. UCLA does not do that great in terms of following as they lost a lot of luster in the 2000s. That may now change with a revival opportunity in the Big Ten.
I have connected with a number of Stanford and Cal alums about the Big Ten. The Cal sports fans are like Rutgers sports fans - years of depressing incompetence at the AD level made them depressed - but they do support Cal regardless and can show up big for games (see Cal v. Stanford game this year which was almost all Cal in stadium). These fans want into the Big Ten badly. The realists understand that it will be a long climb for that given the incompetence of their AD relative to the revenue sports (Olympics sports are good). The dreamers think academic reputation will get them an invite, but then I pull out Nebraska to show how academics means so little in reality for what the Big Ten wants ($$$$ draw) -- that puts a pin in their balloon. Stanford fans, interestingly, are ambivilent to an invite. Some even argue that it would suck given that 10% of their attendees are involved in NCAA sports and that would have a disruptive effect on the learning environment --- and some of them making this argument are football connected! Ironically, I do think Stanford gets invited before Cal ever would if ND decides its time to align with a conference. I don't think Stanford alone delivers the SF/SV television market. Cal definitely has a broader audience than them in the area.
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I think at the end of the day, the B1G will go after the Bay Area market and get Cal/Stanford. Too many B1G alums in the Bay Area and both schools easily pass the academic requirements with flying colors. The B1G presidents still want the conference to be the Public Ivy League 6 days a week.
The rivalries between Cal-Stanford-USC-UCLA are all pretty amazing.
The USC band is reviled in NorCal. They march down a street in San Francisco the night before the Cal game playing their songs which are typically jeered by passersby. The Cal fans also throw oranges at the USC band when they play during halftime at Memorial Stadium. USC cheerleaders typically catch the oranges before they clutter up the field.
The USC band is reviled in NorCal. They march down a street in San Francisco the night before the Cal game playing their songs which are typically jeered by passersby. The Cal fans also throw oranges at the USC band when they play during halftime at Memorial Stadium. USC cheerleaders typically catch the oranges before they clutter up the field.
Speaking of bands - Stanford band take a lot of crap too when they visit
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Delany ignored their memo before the Nebraska invite went out, lol
Their band took a bit more than that (at least a certain trombone player) 40 years ago, ha!
"The band is out on the field!"
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And justifiably so -- the band has a well-deserved reputation for vulgarity. It also knows only one song -- all right now by Free.
The Stanford Band is generally terrible, but they are hilarious (and sometimes offensive - which is also hilarious). The are basically an anti-band or the Worlds' Largest Rock n Roll Band. Their antics are legendary.
The LSJUMB's behavior has made them notorious. They have been criticized and disciplined for their actions on several occasions, and according to Peter Sagal of NPR in 2006, the LSJUMB is "the only university marching band...repeatedly fined and banned by the NCAA".[4]
Stunts and incidents[edit]
The LSJUMB (background) doing the Roman salute, some holding dollar bills, as USC's fight song is played by the Spirit of Troy in the (foreground).The LSJUMB's behavior has made them notorious. They have been criticized and disciplined for their actions on several occasions, and according to Peter Sagal of NPR in 2006, the LSJUMB is "the only university marching band...repeatedly fined and banned by the NCAA".[4]
- In 1970 on September 12 at the Stanford-Arkansas football game, the band dropped their pants during the nationally televised halftime show. https://news.stanford.edu/thedish/2...sary-as-a-scatter-band-now-thatll-be-a-party/
- In the 1970s, one halftime show lampooned California student Patty Hearst's kidnapping with a formation called the Hearst Burger — two buns and no patty.
- The LSJUMB has been banned from Disneyland due to their antics, such as taking over the microphone on the Storybook Land Canal boats,[5] while visiting in Anaheim for the 1972 Rose Bowl. Disneyland officials were upset with the "true story" behind the ride. Additionally the Rose Bowl committee still requires advance review if the band marches in the parade due to their plan to ride golf carts instead of marching in 1971 and their having kegs of beer on a red wagon and passing out drinks to the crowd[5] The band also spelled out the initials SMUT (Stanford Marching Unit Thinkers – an official acronym for the group of band members who conceive the show) on the field before the 1972 Rose Bowl.[citation needed]
- In 1986, the University suspended the band from traveling to the UCLA football game scheduled on November 8, 1986 after incidents in previous games that season. First, on October 11, 1986, an infamous incident of public urination[6] happened following the home football game against the Washington Huskies.[7] Second, during the halftime show of the home USC game on October 25, 1986, the band spelled out "NO BALLZ" and formed male genitalia.[7] Finally, they performed an anagram show and spelled out an anagram of a four-letter word ("NCUT"). After the UCLA game suspension was served, the band appeared at the Cal game wearing angel halos in an attempt to apologize and get invited to travel with the football team to a bowl game. The band attended the Gator Bowl that year, amid very close scrutiny.[1]
- In 1989, before an away game against USC, the USC Trojan Marching Bandtoilet-papered the Stanford Tree mascot in the Coliseum tunnel before the pre-game show, resulting in a free-for-all between members of both bands and the mascot that had to be broken up by the referees.[citation needed]
- In 1990, Stanford suspended the band for a single game after their halftime show at the University of Oregon criticized the logging of the spotted owl's habitats in the northwest United States. The band used formations in the shape of a chainsaw and in the shape of the word OWL[5] changing to AWOL.[citation needed] GovernorNeil Goldschmidt (a member of the Oregon Democratic Party) issued a decree that the band not return to Oregon for several years; the band did not return until 2001.[5][8] After the spotted owl incident, all halftime shows were reviewed and approved by Stanford's Athletic Department.[citation needed]
- In 1991, the University of Notre Dame banned the LSJUMB from visiting its campus after a halftime show at Stanford in which drum major Eric Selvik dressed as a nun and conducted the band using a wooden cross as a baton. (During the pregame show and first half of the game, the drum major had been dressed as an Orthodox Jew, where the wooden cross was part of a menorah-like baton.) After the halftime show, a female Notre Dame fan ran onto the field, approached from behind the unsuspecting Selvik, and forcibly ripped the nun habit off of his head. Selvik pursued and regained his habit from the attacker, who in the scuffle for the habit told the drum major he was "going to hell for this."[citation needed]
- In 1992, the LSJUMB was denied entry to Disneyland after being invited there to play in connection with the Pigskin Classic III, which pitted Stanford against Texas A&M.
- In 1992, Stanford's athletic department pressured the LSJUMB to fire its announcer after one used the phrase "No chuppah, no schtuppa" at a San Jose State University game halftime show.[citation needed]
- In 1994, the band was disciplined after nineteen members skipped a field rehearsal in Los Angeles to play outside the Los Angeles County Superior Courthouse during jury selection for the O. J. Simpsonmurder trial. The band's song selection included an arrangement of The Zombies' "She's Not There."[8][5] Defense lawyer Robert Shapiro described the incident to the media as "a new low in tasteless behavior."[9] Later that year, during the halftime show of the football game against USC (where Simpson had played football and won the 1968 Heisman Trophy), band members drove a white Ford Bronco with bloody handprints[5] around the Stanford Stadium track, an obvious allusion to the low-speed chase in which police followed a white Bronco carrying Simpson around the Los Angeles area.[10]
- In 1997, the band was again disciplined for shows lampooning Catholicism and the Irish at a game against Notre Dame. The band put on a show entitled "These Irish, Why Must they Fight?" Besides the mocking supposedly stereotypicalIrish-Catholic behavior, there was a Riverdance formation, and a Great Famine joke, drawing criticism[11] for its "tasteless" portrayal of Catholics. Stanford President Gerhard Casper subsequently apologized for the band's behavior; the band and the athletic director also apologized.[12] Subsequently, the band was prohibited from playing at games against Notre Dame for two years.[13]
- In 1999, when UCLA football players were caught in an ADA-accessible parking scandal, the band formed a disability-accessible symbol on the field, and wheeled the Stanford Tree in on a wheelchair.[citation needed]
- In 2002 and 2006, the band was sanctioned for off-the-field behavior, including violations of the University alcohol policy.[citation needed]
- In 2004, the band drew national attention and Mormon ire for joking about polygamy during a game against Brigham Young University. The Dollies appeared in wedding veils with the band manager of the time kneeling and "proposing" to each in turn as the announcer referred to marriage as "the sacred bond that exists between a man and a woman... and a woman... and a woman... and a woman... and a woman."[4][14]
- The band's hijinks were given a wider audience when they became the subject of Alan Alda's appearance on the "Not My Job" segment on NPR's Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! on September 9, 2006.[4]
- In 2006, the band was suspended by Stanford administrators when their former "Band Shak" was vandalized. After moving into a new $2.8 million facility, the previous Shak, a trailer that served as a temporary home for the band, was found with broken windows and profanities spray painted on the walls. Administrators believed members of the band were responsible for the damage, as the band had believed the trailer was to be demolished the next day. The Band was placed on a provisional status for several months, and had many privileges taken away for the duration of the suspension, including the right to be freely student-run.[15] The band was also barred from performing at halftime of the 2006 Big Game as a result. However, the University stated that November they would not press vandalism charges.[16] In March 2007, the University exonerated the individual Band members involved in the incident. It also charged the band $8,000 for damages (though it initially estimated damages of $50,000).[17] In July 2007, the band was fully reinstated, and then two months later, the band's alcohol probation was also lifted.
- In 2009, the band performed a field show at USC that openly criticized USC alum & Girls Gone Wild founder Joe Francis, drawing ire from fans with lines like, "USC can't take all of the credit for the successes of its students. After all, it takes a special kind of man to be wanted for sexual harassment, drug trafficking, tax evasion, prostitution, child abuse and disruptive flatulence. But that's just the kind of captain of industry Joe Francis is."[18]
- Organizers of the 2011 Orange Bowl supposedly banned the band from performing their halftime show upon announcement of its theme: "Recent Events in the Pro Sports World in Miami"; this was done out of concern of hurting the feelings of athletes such as LeBron James, who had controversially joined the Miami Heat the previous summer.[8] This was later revealed to be a misinterpretation as the game reserved halftime for the Goo Goo Dolls and the bands from both universities were limited to a pre game show.[19]
- In 2015, following a joint investigation by Stanford's Organization Conduct Board (OCB) and Title IX Office, it was announced that the band would be prohibited from performing at away athletic events for one year and would be required to adopt a number of reforms. The university initiated the joint inquiry after learning of concerns regarding several band events, including off-campus trips, that the band held for its members between 2012 and 2015. The investigation found that, on several occasions, the band violated university policies regarding alcohol, controlled substances, hazing and/or sexual harassment. Violations included a tradition in which a band member was given an alcoholic concoction intended to make that individual vomit publicly; an annual trip in which some band members used illegal substances; and a band selection process in which individuals were asked a number of inappropriate questions on sexual matters.[20]
- At halftime of the 2016 Rose Bowl Game, the band performed a show that included the jingle from the Farmersonly.com dating website, formations that included a corn maze and a sad farmer, and an enactment of "cow tipping". The performance was taken by many as insulting farmers, the state of Iowa, and the University of Iowa (Stanford's opponent in the game). However, Stanford itself is also commonly nicknamed "The Farm". The band was booed by Iowa fans, and the incident sparked outrage on social media. A transcript of the field show can be found on the band's Facebook page.[21][22]
- In December 2016, a Stanford Organizational Conduct Board panel found the band responsible for new violations of campus alcohol policy, the alcohol suspension and the travel ban. The OCB panel found “a systemic cultural problem” in the band organization and concluded that “the outstanding issues have not been taken seriously by the band or its leadership and that nothing more will be accomplished without extreme consequences.”[23] The band was required to stop all activities and lose its status as a registered student group. The suspension was expected to last through the 2016–2017 school year,[24] but the band successfully appealed the decision to Provost John Etchemendy. The appeal placed the band on a "provisional status" through the end of the 2016–2017 school year.[25]
- At halftime of the 2017 Alamo Bowl, the band performed a routine that appeared to mock various things about the state of Texas, including Whataburger. Fans in attendance at the game booed the routine.[26]
- In July 2020, two anonymous submissions to the popular student-run Instagram page 'Stanford Missed Connections' highlighted that the band had consistently failed to address an alleged culture of sexual misconduct. The posts detailed one student's attempt at reporting a case of misconduct, and accused the LSJUMB of a long history of "silencing survivors". Both anecdotes were removed from the page almost immediately, which was soon revealed to have been done at the request of a former manager of the band. Band director Russ Gavin also commented that the culture of the LSJUMB had historically taught students to "fear hurting the organization", which discouraged students from coming forward with allegations of sexual misconduct and assault. [27]
- At halftime of the 2022 game against Arizona State, the Stanford Tree had a sign stating 'STANFORD HATES FUN'. The student who acts as the tree mascot was suspended by the band executive committee.[28]
- In November 2022, the halftime show at the Stanford–BYU game featured a mock lesbian wedding accompanied by phrases from LDS temple ceremonies and theology, where two LSJUMB members were shown kissing. After blowback from BYU, Stanford Athletics issued a statement the following Monday: "The Leland Stanford Junior University Marching Band (LSJUMB) has a long history of lighthearted and satirical halftime performances. Unfortunately, some of the language that was used in Saturday’s halftime show did not reflect Stanford University’s values of religious freedom and diversity, inclusion and belonging. The LSJUMB deeply regrets that this performance caused offense to spectators, and the halftime performance review and approval process is being adjusted to ensure that issues like this do not occur again."[29]
Granted Nebraska was AAU prior to entry and the B1G presidents all claim that Nebraska wouldn't have gotten into the B1G had their AAU membership gotten revoked before the B1G invite.
After seeing UCLA destroy Maryland in hoops in College Park last night, travel is not going to be a problem.
Stanford's band is gonna stick out like a sore thumb if they get into the B1G which all the B1G schools have traditional marching bands of like 300+ members.
Pac 12 bands are also of the traditional variety. I can't think of another school's marching bandthat is intentionally irreverent.
Princeton's is probably the closest to Stanford. But yeah, UCLA/USC/Washington/Oregon, etc., all have traditional marching bands.
They follow the Ivy League tradition of bands. I remember Columbia's "Salute to Great Dictators" "And the Shah said we're in deep trouble and his aide said: 'ayalola you so'". 1971, the last year Dartmouth was all male the Yale band finished there show by forming 2 circles and marched off by the announcer saying "So men of Dartmouth, like the squirrels in the North Woods it's time to store your nuts for winter.
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As you can see from @WhichReligionIsRight 's post, Stanford is on a whole other level.
that was the 1st thing that came to mind! Bad enough that Rowan got part of UMDNJ.
UCLA having to give Cal a cut is embarrassing. It is like they were ordered to pay ChildSupport.
Oh I got a real cutting one for RU but I won't do the PSU and SU trolls work for them
Cal was founded in 1868; UCLA in 1919. So it's like paying eldersupport, which I guess is at least as bad. Maybe the Big Ten will decide eventually to get much higher carriage fees from cable systems in the SF Bay Area by taking a team or teams from there. If it doesn't take Cal, then Cal can't blame anyone but itself.
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