Uh oh. "We're focused on going 1 an 0". - Tom Hermann
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For some reason it doesn't sound so bad coming from a coach that is 7-0 and will likely play for their conference championship.
I think it would be interesting if RU's next head coach also spouts that mantra. Then people might actually understand that it's typical coachspeak. The fact that people get fussed about this make me wonder if they actually follow any sports outside of RU athletics.
It's not the phrase that people are tired of, it's understood that all coaches in all sports take it one game at a time..there was a thread earlier this week discussing why it's frustrating to hear Flood constantly say it, before you bash people you should read it.
If anyone's learned anything over the years here is whatever another coach or school does or says is fine. It's only at Rutgers that the same thing is looked down upon.
It's not just reserved for Flood. Greg was the king of sayings and people here ripped him constantly for it.
It's not just reserved for Flood. Greg was the king of sayings and people here ripped him constantly for it.
If flood actually tried to be 1-0 and was being straight, there's no issue with statement.
But when you play smash mouth against a better version of it, play a dink and dunk qb with little hope of putting up the points necessary, it's clear YOU ARE NOT TRYING TO BE 1-0.
It's clear you are not being straight. You are trying to develop your favorite for winnable games later. Thus, saying you are focused on being 1-0 is offensive to anyone who cares when its not true. And when you lose credibility it doesn't just come back. Combine it with what we know otherwise and you have a picture of a disingenuous coach who doesn't inspire pride in the program-which is how even a die heard positive like Al gets to this point. Beating an Army or Maryland or a Mike reilly jinxed husky doesn't change anything.
But when you play smash mouth against a better version of it, play a dink and dunk qb with little hope of putting up the points necessary, it's clear YOU ARE NOT TRYING TO BE 1-0.
It's clear you are not being straight. You are trying to develop your favorite for winnable games later. Thus, saying you are focused on being 1-0 is offensive to anyone who cares when its not true. And when you lose credibility it doesn't just come back. Combine it with what we know otherwise and you have a picture of a disingenuous coach who doesn't inspire pride in the program-which is how even a die heard positive like Al gets to this point. Beating an Army or Maryland or a Mike reilly jinxed husky doesn't change anything.
No, it's the phrase. Like him writing during the game. The fact that many coaches do it, including Bill Belichek, gets lost on some people. Flood sucks, but ripping him for silly things is going to make those people look stupid when our next coach does similar things.
They might not be sophisticated enough to understand that or express themselves in a way which doesn't reflect poorly.
Likely it is a bit of a corollary of the old "Familiarity breeds contempt"
to be fair - we don't hear every utterance of some other coach - maybe they mindlessly repeat themselves - we don't know because we don't have a constant feed of their comments
However, it would seem that a self-aware coach would mix up their 'sayings' -
The 'go 1-0' does capture the idea of simply being focused on the present and not looking ahead - but geez - it gets moronically monotonous to hear it over and over and over - and it then loses its value in conveying a point.
My wild guess - Tom Hermann says it on occasion but not like a freaking mantra ...
to be fair - we don't hear every utterance of some other coach - maybe they mindlessly repeat themselves - we don't know because we don't have a constant feed of their comments
However, it would seem that a self-aware coach would mix up their 'sayings' -
The 'go 1-0' does capture the idea of simply being focused on the present and not looking ahead - but geez - it gets moronically monotonous to hear it over and over and over - and it then loses its value in conveying a point.
My wild guess - Tom Hermann says it on occasion but not like a freaking mantra ...
Ask Flood why he sticks with a struggling QB, because he gives us the best chance to be 1-0...why no adjustments to the gameplane, because we felt the gameplan was the best chance to go 1-0...why the erratic RB rotation, because we feel it gives us the best chance to go 1-0. Any serious question directed at Fludd or any question he doesn't have an answer for gets the 'we're trying to be 1-0 this week' answer.
If you're asked about your teams focus or looking ahead to future games then 1-0 this week is a good answer. But when you're asked specific questions and your answer is usually a noun, a verb, and 1-0, then it gets frustrating.
If you're asked about your teams focus or looking ahead to future games then 1-0 this week is a good answer. But when you're asked specific questions and your answer is usually a noun, a verb, and 1-0, then it gets frustrating.
The only thread I was able to find was one joking about Flood not changing his clock. Nothing really insightful there.
He said it twice in a 30 second interview. I'm guessing he didn't just come up with that.
To say that Fludd abuses that phrase is an understatement, to suggest that people will look stupid if our next coach takes notes or wants to put a focus on taking things one game at a time is well, kind of stupid. Especially since, as you say, all coaches do it.
I'll admit I don't actually watch Flood's press conferences. If that's what's actually happening, I can understand it a bit more.
Then you agree. Busting his onions for something all coaches do is stupid. Yet you still do it.
It's ok if you ignore my post where I explained why his 1-0 mantra is frustrating to me. Im not just busting his onions as you suggest, he has truly become frustrating to listen to. Especially when he is trying to justify his failures.
I agree, it's frustrating to hear your coach constantly talk about being 1-0, then watch them get beat by 40-50 points.
You guys dont like Flood and will bash anything he does and are piling on....just awful fans...
I am a Yankees fan... I can not stand Joe Girardi as a coach and his lil pet names for players Gardy, Jete, etc...but i do not sit here and root for the team to lose so he gets fired...talk shit and persuade free agents not to sign here..
The sthtick is getting old some of you fans are a cancer to this program and dont know why u root for this team...you think we are as storied program as alabama and notre dame...just look at what the football stadium was 30 years ago to see what this program is...
I am a Yankees fan... I can not stand Joe Girardi as a coach and his lil pet names for players Gardy, Jete, etc...but i do not sit here and root for the team to lose so he gets fired...talk shit and persuade free agents not to sign here..
The sthtick is getting old some of you fans are a cancer to this program and dont know why u root for this team...you think we are as storied program as alabama and notre dame...just look at what the football stadium was 30 years ago to see what this program is...
This makes absolutely 0 sense logically. You bash Flood for saying these hackneyed phrases that lots of coaches say and use it as ammo for why he is a bad coach... despite the fact good coaches also use it. I mean this is really a binary situation: you either think his coachspeak contributes to him being a bad/incompetent coach or you don't. If you admit he is a bad coach and THAN use that as justification as to why his coachspeak is stupid, then your issue is with his coaching and not his coachspeak. Stick with the objectively bad things that actually make him a poor coach. Throwing in things that aren't important or related just makes you sound like a whiny fan and makes others who aren't on your zealous anti-flood parade tune you out.
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You're right, true fans should only say good things about Fludd or stay quiet. It's amazing how the "positive" Flood fans always resort to name calling and are always inviting folks to find another team to root for.
Unlike you, I think we can do far better than Fludd...I have no idea what your reference to 30 years ago is supposed prove.
You know, I recall hearing that same exact sentiment expressed, far more eloquently, on the CE board over silly things said about another guy in charge. Hm...
It's all coach speak, some may be more of a broken record than others with it, but nonetheless it's all over. I don't listen to it. This is just like the play the players who give you the best chance to win thread. Who the hell isn't going to say that? I don't really care what comes out of his mouth. I only care about winning.
It's because he's not winning that everything else gets nitpicked but these kind of things are non issues.
Like I said in the other thread, if you want to here a coach that gives some nice answers with x/o mixed in listen to Dave Aranda. He's a nice listen.
It's because he's not winning that everything else gets nitpicked but these kind of things are non issues.
Like I said in the other thread, if you want to here a coach that gives some nice answers with x/o mixed in listen to Dave Aranda. He's a nice listen.
I never once said or implied that Fludd was a bad coach because he uses that phrase. I even acknowledge that other coaches use it and I give them credit for using it in the right context.
I clearly stated why Fludd's use of the phrase frustrates me and it's clear that you and others didn't read that post. You see someone hates that phrase and your immediate response is all coaches use it and we're just saying we hate it because we hate all things Fludd...you guys have no interest in understanding why people are tired of hearing Fludd say it, you can agree or disagree but atleast try to understand the context before trying to shout someone down.
Oh and if you think I'm a whiny fan on an anti-Fludd tirade, then why did you respond rather than tune me out as you suggested? If your going to give knee jerk responses without reading my actual posts then I'd rather you tune me out.
I have seen a lot of Kyle Flood pressers, and have never seen what you described as the reason why you don't like him using the phrase. Can you please provide a video example of when he responds to every difficult question with "we are trying to go 1-0"? Maybe I have missed one. Thanks.
It sounds a lot different when a coach who actually goes 1-0 week in and out say it, than when a glorified gym teacher who probably couldn't coach 5th grade dodge ball say it.
You are completely lost my friend. You can't see past offering blind support for incompetence. Comparing anything associated with the Yankees and Rutgers shows how detached from reality your ilk is.
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You're right Fludd never uses that phrase, I must've been mistaken and this thread is useless. Oh, if you think I'm going to scan the internet to find every instance where Fludd used that phrase, then you might be as brain dead as he is, lol.
?? When did I saw Flood never used that phrase? Your propensity to just jump between logical extremes is incredibly impressive I must say. Here, I'll simplify this for you.
You said: "If you're asked about your teams focus or looking ahead to future games then 1-0 this week is a good answer. But when you're asked specific questions and your answer is usually a noun, a verb, and 1-0, then it gets frustrating."
I said I have watched a lot of his pressers and have never seen him answer most or all of his difficult questions with "desire to go 1-0". So I asked you for an example (since, again, I've never seen it regurgitated in a single press conference to the point you are saying he is) and you don't want to provide that for <reasons undefined>. Probably because it doesn't exist. So I think the most obvious conclusion here is you dislike Flood because he is a incompetent/bad coach (perfectly valid), but are now just harping/focusing on the most inconsequential things unrelated to his performance. This really just detracts from the overall message and cheapens the debate. It's like criticizing Obama for something valid and then stating he is a bad president for vacationing at camp David... just complete nonsense and makes people not want to take anything you say seriously despite some of it maybe being good.
TL;DR stick with the actual facts that objectively make someone a bad coach.
You know, I recall hearing that same exact sentiment expressed, far more eloquently, on the CE board over silly things said about another guy in charge. Hm...
Don't try and hold Cali to any intellectually consistent standard. It' like being trapped in that 31 acre corn maze in Aberdeen...
What I said was that Fludd over uses and abuses the mantra, he even uses it to avoid giving real answers, to real questions. I never said he sits in press conferences and repeatedly gives the 1-0 answer. You came to that conclusion all by yourself. It's a cumulative thing smart guy and I think you know that...you asking me to point you to a press conference to show where he repeatedly does it is kind of self serving because it doesn't exist, you know that also.
It's commendable that you are willing to tie yourself into knots to defend the guy but it's a fact that Fludd over uses the phrase and uses it without context, I think you know that too. If Flood was 7-0 no one would care but he isn't 7-0 and constantly using the 1-0 mantra while the program is crashing and burning is frustrating, whether you like it or not.
Again, it's cumulative...Fludd consistently says we're focused on being 1-0 or some variation of that phrase...We've all listened to it for 4 years, for you to ask me to show you proof says alot.
Sorry I got to go, the game is on, lol.
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