Once again Saint Puppy and Gumper know crap about basketball and guess what? that Wake team we buried on a Saturday , but still anyone with 2 eyes could see they had some parts and were 8-3 , and we played great and took them out of their game ; just beat # 14 ranked Duke wire to wire by 11. Do they still stink clueless ones?
Very solid win - now we need CONSISTENCY offensively
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You are without a grain of humility . Just rather be wrong all the time. Really, it is time to give up on your ridiculous takes. Too many to count , hang it up.
When Rutgers is on their game, we make teams look way worse then they actually are... gotta remember we are one of the best defensive teams in the country. We made Indiana look terrible too. Gotta credit Rutgers instead of just bashing the opponent and saying they stink
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Wake still isn't that good imo, but beating any decent-ish team by 24 points is still great. 24 points a game (or make it 21 since we were at home) is roughly the difference between #25 and #288. If we were truly 21 points a game better than Wake all the time we would be #1 by a significant margin.
Ok. I get it “ teams that aren’t very good “ beat Duke all the time. LOL. Your assessment is not as bad as Puppy and Gumper but common now. They led wire to wire.
Well, yeah? Even Fred Hill managed to knock off some ranked teams at home, and his teams were far worse than "not that good".
Wake is going to go 10-10 in the ACC and miss the tournament. They aren't bad or terrible but they aren't good either.
They beat Duke and @Wisconsin. 10-10 in the ACC is a good team. Good teams miss the tournament every year
If we are counting teams in the 51-100 range as good teams then sure. I would call that a mediocre team personally.
Also keep in mind that the ACC is basically a mid-major conference this year.
51 out of what 358 is mediocre? That's not the definition of mediocre at all. That's top 15%
Mediocre is average, at best. I think most would say mediocre is slightly below average moreso than anything above average
I agree with you. I tend to think Wake wont be good enough to make the tourney. They had a gaudy record last year and went from safely win to out once people started looking at their resume. Once again the ACC in conference wins wont score them major points. They already have bad loss to LMU and Clemson. The Duke and Wisconsin wins are very very good but the Duke win wont have the cache of other seasons. I see Wake losing on the road alot to middling schools like Syracuse and Notre Dame.
It was a wire to wire win by 11. Don’t shrug it off as commonplace. Interesting that their Net went from 98 to 85 but Duke only dropped from 11 to 15. Obviously whatever formula the NET used , it did not penalize Duke because the formula deemed Wake a good team. Otherwise , if they were only decent as you say or bad or terrible like the clueless ones say , Duke would have dropped by 10 or more.
Well,
(1) Wake forest is more in the middle of that 51-100 range than the very tippy top.
(2) If the curve is literally "all division I teams" then sure, call that good. I don't really have an issue with that, it's more a word parsing thing than an actual disagreement about the strength of the team. When I say mediocre I am grading on the curve of power conference teams. Even really bad power conference teams are generally ~average compared to all D1 teams.
Dude, teams in the 50-100 range beating mid top 25 teams at home is absolutely commonplace. It's a nice win for Wake, don't get me wrong, but "OMFG look out Wake beat Duke!11!11!!!!1111" is just not the right reaction.
No, this is because the top teams are spaced out more than the middle of the pack. The 25-75 gap is roughly equal to the 5-25 gap.
They beat Wisconsin on the road and you discount that fact. Not many out of conference teams let alone conference teams do that. Yeah if they get pummeled on the road like what we did to them , they have no chance but doubt that will happen. We blitzed them and they didn’t know what hit them and were not prepared for it. At the end of the day they are 9-3 and the losses you cite they blew a 15 point lead to LMU so they blew it kinda like us some times. They will be on the bubble. You are making them out to be a 150 type team. Ridiculous
1 Q1 win could be luck. 2 at this point in the season and you're probably a good team
What planet do you live on ? Beating Duke wire to wire and by 11 certainly resonated around the basketball world and you know where else , with the rest of the ACC coaches. Also important it was exactly 1 game after we gave them a beating. It is even more impressive. But go ahead discount their win over Duke and also our win over Wake. . No college coach in the country is doing what you tried to do. Pathetic
"Resonated around the basketball world", sure ok
1/29/03 beat #24 Syracuse
3/1/03 beat #9 Notre Dame
1/10/04 beat #25 Providence
1/28/06 beat #22 Louisville
1/23/08 beat #18 Villanova
1/26/08 beat #13 Pittsburgh
1/14/10 beat #7 Georgetown
1/9/11 beat #9 Villanova
12/29/11 beat #10 Florida
1/7/12 beat #8 UConn
1/5/13 beat #24 Pittsburgh
1/11/15 beat #4 Wisconsin
12/16/17 beat #15 Seton Hall
1/9/19 beat #16 Ohio St
3/2/19 beat #22 Iowa
This all from teams that were mostly far worse than Wake Forest
It. Happens. All. The. Time.
What planet do YOU live on?
Now you are pandering. Duke is Duke. With their 5 stars and greatest recruiting classes that have been drafted in the pros the last 3-5 years. You sound uninformed, which is normally not like you. If you want to act like Wake beating # 14 Duke by 11 in a wire to wire win not a buzzer beater was no big deal go right ahead. As you get laughed at.
Dude, who ****ing cares if it's Duke? It's a home win over a ~15ish ranked team.
They will be on the bubble because of some of their losses but they have 2 Quad 1 wins over Duke at home and at Wisconsin on the road. That is a good start for making the tourney. If they get 5 Quad 1 wins they will have a good shot.
Duke is not Duke until they can prove it now that their hall of fame coach is gone. Go ask Nova fans if Nova is still Nova without Jay Wright.
They will not be #14 after the loss to Wake. They would be #14 if coach K was still their either.
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