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We laid an egg.

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It finally happened. 23 games in and for the first time all year we looked lost, slow, doubly careless more than normal , listless , and it snowballed badly. I thought Coach and his staff have done a great job getting our guys focused and ready to play. It has been especially evident on the road where we seem to always get off to good starts , ratchet up the defense that have kept us in games to the end.

Tonite was on everyone , Coach included!! To come out and turn the ball over 4 of first 5 possessions, some leading to run outs, then leaving guys open for threes that has not really happened, started the ball rolling and we never recovered. Losing Nigel really hurt not just because the last few games , he seems to be getting his offense going, but because he couldn't put pressure on their freshman point guard , Buchanan, who he really bothered 3 weeks ago , and Iowa ran their great offense really efficiently. We lost guys in transition for threes something we have not done this year but did 5 -6 times tonight. An explaination ? None really other than maybe the pre game thought I was hoping was not true, the hangover from that brutal Wisconsin loss on Saturday. I purposely did not post after Wisconsin despite being at the Garden watching us blow that 9 point lead with 3.22 to go and feeling devastated but also proud of how hard we competed and how well Pikiell coached with that 3/4 court press that took 10 seconds off the clock , forcing Wisconsin to take rushed shots near the end of the shot clock on every possession . 1 more lousy foul shot wins that game. Coming into tonite against Iowa the board seemed to think it was a sure win , but I was cautious wanting to see how we would bounce back emotionally. I told one of my betting buddies, who called for my take , to lay off Rutgers because when we are expected to win in our history we have not fared well.. But I did not expect what I saw in person. Effort, emotion, tenacity on defense never showed up tonight . This time has been so resilient all year but tonight really no fight.
One player has to be singled out but for a positive reason and that is MIKE Williams , who played so hard , so tough on the glass , on the defensive end, just everywhere. I am hoping this propels Mike back to the early conference Mike not the one that struggled for 4-5 games. With Nigel likely out for at least a game or two , Mike has to bring the same effort , to help us get some more wins. I am flushing this game because that was not our team defensively tonight and I hope I never see that again from this team.
 
Agree with all said in various threads but . . .

a) I think there's too much psychologizing;
b) not giving enough credit to Iowa who played a great game
 
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There is a reason many pro teams of many sports have sports psychologists

Coach P will have his hands full correcting obvious flaws while not damaging team spirit

My SR year in high school I was undefeated all year in swimming[banana][banana]
my ONLY loss was my last event of my HS career...in the CITY CHAMPIONSHIPS in the 50 free:scream:
I am still not over it :chairshot:
 
what is interesting about the 3 games we laid the biggest egg is that all 3 opponents were very young teams..younger than RU, teams with talent but team that really struggled at times with any consistency and RU made them look like top 20 teams...top 10 in the case of MSU. When you do not start out with any hunger at the start of games and your opponents can smell it, then these games get out of hand like this. Going forward though after 3 of these type games, I do not think there really is any excuses for no shows the rest of the way
 
We were off last night vs. Iowa, but the most glaring issue continues to be our inability to score and that is determined by two primary issues:
1) our shooting is abysmal
2) we have no point guard
The shooting part is obvious but not having a point guard on offense in basketball just cripples your ability to score and exacerbates all of your other offensive limitations.
I know Cory is doing his best to fill that role but he is just not a point guard, he would be so much more dangerous if we had a true point guard. A good point guard sets up teammates to take shots they can make and they distribute the ball to force the defense to play all of the players on the floor. We are leaderless on offense, it's like playing football without a QB.
 
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Not the first time this season that we laid an egg.

Penn State @ the RAC and @ Michigan State
Disagree. Made comebacks and showed fight and defended better except for Harris against Michigan State and Penn State. Last night was the worst we have played, offense, defense , turnovers with total lack of fight. All of the other games we never gave up and hitting a couple of more shots would have made a difference. Not last night .
 
The trend has been downward because of the lack of scoring .The difference in this game was the defense took the night off giving up 83 points and it could have been 90 or more if Iowa didn't start substituting in the last 5 minutes.In every league game Rutgers faces a talent disadvantage which means they should be the underdog in every game.The results speak for themselves with only 1 league win and 4 in three years.This squad needs a major makeover next season or fans will be watching similar results.Without scorers Rutgers has no chance to be successful in league competition.
 
didn't lay an egg vs. PSU @RAC. Was incredibly bad on the offensive end, but played VERY hard.

@MSU and Iowa YES

We will have to disagree about PSU game. PSU was a very, very winnable game, and we struggled on the offensive end which, in my opinion, translates to we didn't execute on the offensive end. Whether we played hard or not, not winning against a very winnable opponent (even if by virtue of not hitting shots) is laying an egg when we could (and should) have come out with the W. 17 TO's and losing by 13 to a terrible opponent which had multiple players sick is unacceptable.
 
I just don't think the Penn State and Michigan state games don't belong in the same conversation with the Iowa game.

Effort was lacking in Iowa and MSU, not PSU.

My egg is more of an effort thing. If your egg is playing in full to expectation than i suppose I agree with you. Our offensive execution was horrid vs. PSU.
 
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We will have to disagree about PSU game. PSU was a very, very winnable game, and we struggled on the offensive end which, in my opinion, translates to we didn't execute on the offensive end. Whether we played hard or not, not winning against a very winnable opponent (even if by virtue of not hitting shots) is laying an egg when we could (and should) have come out with the W. 17 TO's and losing by 13 to a terrible opponent which had multiple players sick is unacceptable.


strongly agree....the way we came out against PSU was pretty poor...and there was wretched stretch where we did not play hard and PSU went on a 14-0 run to put the game away by around the 10 minute mark. To not be ready to play the first conference game of the year in front of a large crowd was a failure. Penn State did not play a great game at all either, if you go back and watch actually how the game evolved and how poorly PSU played, they went up 17 when RU stopped playing and then coasted to the end barely scoring.
 
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We gave up 60 points in 72 possessions vs PSU. Huge difference between not scoring and not playing hard.

Shooting 7-20 from 3 vs. 3-20 from 3 makes effort look better
 
They let the Wisky loss beat them twice.

Need better/tougher players.
Indeed, our guys must get tougher. Pikiell said it after the game last night. Toughness is being strong enough to withstand adverse conditions/rough handling and having the ability to deal with hardship/cope in difficult situations. Our team fails miserably in these situations.
 
They let the Wisky loss beat them twice.

Need better/tougher players.

I do not think toughness is an issue.

It is turnovers, get more spacing, and run some pick and rolls with Gettys and get him the ball. Just get more creative. Also, lots of missed players tonight from a lack of passing.
 
Indeed, our guys must get tougher. Pikiell said it after the game last night. Toughness is being strong enough to withstand adverse conditions/rough handling and having the ability to deal with hardship/cope in difficult situations. Our team fails miserably in these situations.

I feel like what they have been doing is that. They will not give up, and did not give up last night.

What they did do was throw the game away after five minutes. I have never seen a team where the game was decided in such a short amount of time.
 
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