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Week 7 NCAAF Rankings- Thoughts?

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SEC:
Alabama #7 loses to 2-2 Vanderbilt- they slips 6 spots in AP and 5 spots in coaches poll.
Tennessee #8 loses to 3-2 Arkansas and slips only 4 spots in AP 5 spots in coaches poll.
Ole Miss #9- beat South Caroline, up 3 in both polls.
Texas A&M #15 beats Missouri and up 10 spots in AP and 7 spots in coaches poll
Missouri #21 loses to Aggies and down 12 spots in AP poll and 9 spots in coaches poll

ACC:
Miami #6 up 2 in both polls after beating Cal
Clemson #10/11 beats mighty FSU and up 5 in AP and up 3 in coaches poll
Pitt #22/24- up from unranked
SMU #25- beats Louisville, and up from unranked after beating mighty UNC

B1G:
Ohio State #2 up 1 in both polls after beating 3-1 Iowa.
Oregon #3- up 3 in both polls after beating MSU
Penn State #4/5 up 3/2 after beating UCLA
Indiana #18/20- up 5/4 after beating Northwestern
Illinois #23- up 1/2 after being idle
Michigan #24/21- down 14/11 after losing to Washington
USC -NR (26)--down 15/11 after losing to Minnesota


Big 12- ehh, who cares.

Michigan and USC punished severely.
Clemson overranked?

Alabama slips only 6/5 spots????
Tennessee slips only 4/5 spots????

 
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Interesting. So I’d say there’s no doubt our loss hurt Michigan. If we won, we’d probably have crashed through pretty far and Washington would get more respect.

The bright side? There’s probably quicker ground to make up that you’d think if we can convert next week. Right now it seems we’re a mile from top 25 but winning tends to get folks thinking. And as a stand alone (if it were that) there’s a lot to consider about our loss.

Forget the damn bad spot on the TD. Forget even Black’s drop. It was a weird game. Wind gusts making FGs impossible. One team can’t make them even on normal days - weather def helped them. 95 degree heat day in October and they get a shaded sideline sticking us right in the sun. A lot of obscurity in this game all of which would start getting pointed out if we turn things right around. Of course, if we lose next week, we’re just a mediocre 4-2 team hoping to get to a bowl. Next week is huge for the trajectory of the season.
 
SEC:
Alabama #7 loses to 2-2 Vanderbilt- they slips 6 spots in AP and 5 spots in coaches poll.
Tennessee #8 loses to 3-2 Arkansas and slips only 4 spots in AP 5 spots in coaches poll.
Ole Miss #9- beat South Caroline, up 3 in both polls.
Texas A&M #15 beats Missouri and up 10 spots in AP and 7 spots in coaches poll
Missouri #21 loses to Aggies and down 12 spots in AP poll and 9 spots in coaches poll

ACC:
Miami #6 up 2 in both polls after beating Cal
Clemson #10/11 beats mighty FSU and up 5 in AP and up 3 in coaches poll
SMU #25- beats Louisville, and up from unranked

B1G:
Ohio State #2 up 1 in both polls after beating 3-1 Iowa.
Oregon #3- up 3 in both polls after beating MSU
Penn State #4/5 up 3/2 after beating UCLA
Indiana #18/20- up 5/4 after beating Northwestern
Illinois #23- up 1/2 after being idle
Michigan #24/21- down 14/11 after losing to Washington
USC -NR (26)--down 15/11 after losing to Minnesota


Big 12- ehh, who cares.

Michigan and USC punished severely.
Clemson overranked?

Alabama slips only 6/5 spots????
Tennessee slips only 4/5 spots????
Alabama beat Georgia so I don’t understand how Alabama could drop that much. And be behind Georgia. Alabama coach learned a lesson this week.
 
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Alabama beat Georgia so I don’t understand how Alabama could drop that much. And be behind Georgia. Alabama coach learned a lesson this week.
DeBoer has had these close calls or losses against teams that he wasn’t suppose to like I think ASU and Arizona at UW….found the tweet.




I said in the games thread this ain’t Saban’s defense. Last 6 qtrs not inspiring since that UGA comeback so I think.l that can be an issue as the year goes on. They didn’t have a single 3 and out against Vandy. Vandy was 12/18 on 3rd down.
 
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Last time I checked Pitt is still in the ACC.

Pitt beat North Carolina AP #22 and Coaches #24 up from unranked.

However, these early polls are somewhat meaningless at this point in the season.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
I think Bama and Georgia will be in
the playoff. Bama had a huge win last week. To say that their players probably overlooked the Vandy game is an understatement.
 
I think Bama and Georgia will be in
the playoff. Bama had a huge win last week. To say that their players probably overlooked the Vandy game is an understatement.
For sure trap game was probably part of it. Big emotional win over UGA then overlook little ole Vandy.

I won't say Alabama is in it for sure. They have Tenn, LSU and OU on the road. Mizzou and Auburn at home. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for them to get picked off in 2 of those which would then put playoff chances in doubt.

Mind you, I'd expect a 3 loss team to get in sooner or later in the expanded CFP. It would have happened a few times if you took the expanded playoffs back to 2014 when the CFP started.
 
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It depends what you are asking the polls to do.

Is it supposed to be some kind of standings wherein teams are ranked only based on the wins and losses they've accomplished this season in a "fair" manner? Then Bama is too high.

Is it supposed to just be "who is the best team"? Then Bama is probably too low or at worst spot on; is there a team below them you'd truly expect to win more than 50% on a neutral field?

The AP and coaches poll tend to be kind of unholy hybrids of the two approaches leading to some funky results at times, especially early in the season.
 
I think Bama and Georgia will be in
the playoff. Bama had a huge win last week. To say that their players probably overlooked the Vandy game is an understatement.
There are still several games to be played between Texas, Tenn, UGA and Alabama, plus the conference championship game, so there are definite losses out there and how they get sorted out will mean everything.

A bunch of two loss SEC teams would get in the playoff. If that turns into some with one loss and some with three, there could be fewer SEC playoff teams than everyone expected.
 
Edit:

Last time I checked Pitt is still in the ACC.

Pitt beat North Carolina AP #22 and Coaches #24 up from unranked.

However, these early polls are somewhat meaningless at this point in the season.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Aww, crap. I thought they were still in the Big East. Slip up, edited above.
Not exactly a murderer's row. Most impressive win is over a 3-2 WVU. Other wins are Kent State, Cincinnati and Youngstown State.
 
Aww, crap. I thought they were still in the Big East. Slip up, edited above.
Not exactly a murderer's row. Most impressive win is over a 3-2 WVU. Other wins are Kent State, Cincinnati and Youngstown State.

Well all teams schedule somewhat less competitive teams (Akron and Howard) to try and pad their wins.

What is surprising is how many posters accept these games but criticize Bowl Games for being too profuse.

I on the other hand like Bowl Games because you will have competitive games against teams that normally don't play each.

Good win over Washington.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
Miami riding the talents of their ridiculous qb and questionable acc calls…to 5-0…their ranking seems more suspect

Miami would be the #3 seed in the CFP.
Because the top 4 seeds have to be conference champs, they jump over Oregon, PSU and Georgia.
 
Miami would be the #3 seed in the CFP.
Because the top 4 seeds have to be conference champs, they jump over Oregon, PSU and Georgia.

Hahaha.
#11 Iowa State would jump to the 4 seed and get a 1st round bye.
And #17 Boise State jumps to #12 as the 5th conference champ.

Talk about a poorly designed system.
 
Well all teams schedule somewhat less competitive teams (Akron and Howard) to try and pad their wins.

What is surprising is how many posters accept these games but criticize Bowl Games for being too profuse.

I on the other hand like Bowl Games because you will have competitive games against teams that normally don't play each.

Good win over Washington.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Cough, cough, glances over Washington and Nebraska. B1G>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>acc

Being undefeated is good though.
 
Hahaha.
#11 Iowa State would jump to the 4 seed and get a 1st round bye.
And #17 Boise State jumps to #12 as the 5th conference champ.

Talk about a poorly designed system.
Puts emphasis on conference champions.

I don't watch pro sports anymore and don't know if they've changed the formats in the decades since. You'd get teams with worse records but who won their divisions get higher seeds in the playoffs or keep teams out of the playoffs who had better records.

This is pretty much the same thing. No big deal.

And in pro sports there's more parity with resources and such, I have no issue giving some opportunity to teams that don't have the same resources etc..
 
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Well all teams schedule somewhat less competitive teams (Akron and Howard) to try and pad their wins.

What is surprising is how many posters accept these games but criticize Bowl Games for being too profuse.
I agree with the 1st line but I don't really see the connection to the 2nd line.
 
I agree with the 1st line but I don't really see the connection to the 2nd line.

Many posters even on this board have said that their are too many Bowl Games.

At least playing a Bowl Game matches competitive teams. Almost all teams schedule these gimmie games so they can pad their win records to help them become Bowl eligible (6 wins). I don't watch these games and most people don't watch them except if your a fan/alum of one of these games.

Why play them.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
Many posters even on this board have said that their are too many Bowl Games.

At least playing a Bowl Game matches competitive teams. Almost all teams schedule these gimmie games so they can pad their win records to help them become Bowl eligible (6 wins). I don't watch these games and most people don't watch them except if your a fan/alum of one of these games.

Why play them.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
I think they are very different things. Bowl games are purportedly a "postseason" and a reward for a certain level of accomplishment. Tune-up games are tune-up games.
 
Every once in awhile, we need to see someone like the Vandy QB show that the "little" guy can win too. In many ways, he represents the rest of us. Good for him and the team.
 
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