"Well we didn't want our #2 guy going in there and getting hurt, you see, THAT's how we do things here!"
IDIOT.
IDIOT.
What's Flood's Excuse for Laviano STILL in the game (34-3, 6:00 to go in 3rd)
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If for no other reason the least he can do if show mercy for Laviano.
A 2nd reason would be Rettig is the only one that can save his job
at this point.
A 2nd reason would be Rettig is the only one that can save his job
at this point.
Incompetance is incompetence
a dud is a dud
I think today the board gave up trying to figure why our muleheaded coach does things
Just hope he is gone next year
a dud is a dud
I think today the board gave up trying to figure why our muleheaded coach does things
Just hope he is gone next year
News Flash: It's not Rettig that doesn't know the playbook, it's Flood.
Take him out and put Wilson in
Take him out and put Wilson in
After the last 2 games, it sure appears to be time for a change.
I wouldn't do it this game because the entire O is being manhandled. I don't think it'd change anything. There's no time to throw anyway.
I wouldn't do it this game because the entire O is being manhandled. I don't think it'd change anything. There's no time to throw anyway.
Flood doesn't want to interrupt Laviano's "learning curve".
You can also add that Flood doesn't have a rat's ass of an idea about what he's doing.
You can also add that Flood doesn't have a rat's ass of an idea about what he's doing.
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That is BS. Any QB sitting on the bench all year, coming into the 7 and 8 game in the 4th quarter of blowouts and would need time to get there touch right. Even without his touch he still performed better than Laviano and gives RU a better chance to win with his ability to stretch the field and open room for the running game.
3 of 7 then 2 of 6 during garbage time. You can argue for rettig over laviano, but there has nothing rettig has shown that he gives a better chance for winning. The problem is the play calling and not having our star receiver.f
Problem is the coaches not the qb
Problem is the coaches not the qb
What has Laviano shown to keep the job?
Against decent teams he led the offense to maybe 6 points (Ohio state, Wisconsin penn state) in nearly 3 full games.
His completion rate has been horrible against decent teams, we rarely see any of his "mobility", and he's fumbled the ball or thrown picks each game.
It's like Rettig has to come in late in the game and be perfect or he's not worth getting time in when it matters. Guess what? He led RU to its only scoring drive last week and one of the only drives to threaten to score today -- both in less than 10 minutes of playing time.
Sorry to say it, but if you are an RU fan and you didn't think Rettig should have started the second half you really don't want to win IMO.
You're crazy and must be from the Kyle flood school of football. This team, like any team needs big plays. Rettig gives you that possibility even without Caroo on the field. The threat of the long ball forces the defense to backoff and defend the whole field and not just the box. This notion that RU is going to ground and pound and utilize a short passing game to defeat any top notch opponent is ridiculous and that is the only way Laviano can play. No guarantees with Rettig but at least he give you a shot...and just think with sustain playing time instead of mop-up duty in the 4th quarter of blowouts he is bound to get better and better.
Biggest difference between rettig and laviano is that when rettig comes in game, very play is 20 yards plus. Vertical game stretches defense. It also pads stats because one good pads yields more yards than 5 completed short ones.
Flood, especially against good teams consistently goes 2 run one pass. Then the majority of passes are screens or within 7 yards of LOS. Elite defenses will be stride for stride that close to LOS. When you have an elite defense concentrated in small area, defense will win.
If the play calling was more varied. Laviano would have more success.
The problem is coaching. Rettig reminds me a lot of Nova physically. He hasn't had enough game time to show if his superior arm strength feeds into similar questionable decision making
Switching to Rettig and keeping same coaching will not changel results
Flood, especially against good teams consistently goes 2 run one pass. Then the majority of passes are screens or within 7 yards of LOS. Elite defenses will be stride for stride that close to LOS. When you have an elite defense concentrated in small area, defense will win.
If the play calling was more varied. Laviano would have more success.
The problem is coaching. Rettig reminds me a lot of Nova physically. He hasn't had enough game time to show if his superior arm strength feeds into similar questionable decision making
Switching to Rettig and keeping same coaching will not changel results
Success does not depend on a 50 yard bomb. But it does depend on mixing 15-30 yard passes with the short game. Laviano is capable of medium game. Coaching staff is not utilizing it. Problem is coaching and play calling.
What a contradiction! Vertical game stretches the defense but I guess you don't think that would help the running game and the short passing game. It's basic common sense!
Our playbook looks like the original Tecmo Bowl. Two running and two passing plays.
It's not a contradiction. We agree. What the issue is the play calling fundamentally changes. If the coaches called more vertical plays when laviano was in, he would haveore yards, running game would improve and so would offense.
Laviano struggles are created by the play calling. Rettig supposed success is because of the play calling. But based on performance, your comments seem to suggest you'd be happy with an offense that completes 1 of 3 passes and had no running game (ie what the offense had been w rettig at helm).
The coaches are creating the problems
No success does not depend on 50 yard bombs but the threat of it is a nice element to have. Why do you think commentators always speak of taking shots downfield? It creates big plays which all good offenses need and it stretches the field forcing the defense to respect the fact that you make go long. You can get away with the short passing game if you have superior talent but if not you have to create big plays which will in turn help your short passing game and running game.
Your problem is you are looking at the brief time when Rettig was in the game and coming to a strange conclusion that it would be all pass and no run with him as the starter. My point is that all passing plays usually have receivers run short, intermediate , and longer routes. Rettig by nature is more aggressive and more likely to take a shot at more of the intermediate and longer routes while Laviano relies on short to intermediate.. I agree that the play calling is much too predictable and run dominate but even with the current play calling playing Rettig would open of the offense. Anyone who believes at this point it is not worth it to give Rettig a shot either knows nothing about football or is idiotic. One thing is for sure...it can't get worse than these last 2 games.
Vast majority of big plays, ball travels less than 40 yards in air and receiver runs the rest. Most big plays involve more running than flight of ball.
Laviano has ability to do this, the play calling does not enable it.
Laviano gets the ball to carroo adequately enough
Laviano has ability to do this, the play calling does not enable it.
Laviano gets the ball to carroo adequately enough
Well now that you are calling names, it's time to end this.
I am reacting to people using the fact that rettig threw for more yards today as evidence that rettig is better than laviano. Or the fact rettig completed one big pass against OSU third strin defense as evidence that rettig is better than laviano.
If you want to use rettig game success as evidence, need to look at what else happened? Ie no touch, no running game and sub 500 completion rate.
Reality is better play calling creates opportunity. Don't need superior athletes or someone who could throw a bomb. Nova had a strong arm too. Guess rutgers offense was unstoppable during his tenure.
Watched some of your game today.
Can some one explain what Flood is feverishly writing on the sidelines after each play.
He seems more involved taking notes than paying attention to the game.
Having your star WR out with an ankle injury really had an impact with your ability to move the ball.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Can some one explain what Flood is feverishly writing on the sidelines after each play.
He seems more involved taking notes than paying attention to the game.
Having your star WR out with an ankle injury really had an impact with your ability to move the ball.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
It's actually debatable as to ether or not Lavisno has the ability to do what you say. He's thrown a couple of decent long passes this year but most float out there
And while he has shown he can get the ball to Carroo (or shown how great Carroo is as a receiver) he really hasn't shown he connects with anyone else. And guess who didn't play today...
Laviano is no threat to the defense. Stop the run, win the game. It's that simple.
And how demoralizing for the D. They aren't great to begin with, but to see your offense get repeatedly stuffed and not even attempt to hit them back must not feel like you have much of a chance.
6 Points in two games. Laviano has to sit.
And how demoralizing for the D. They aren't great to begin with, but to see your offense get repeatedly stuffed and not even attempt to hit them back must not feel like you have much of a chance.
6 Points in two games. Laviano has to sit.
Again if you think that is a large enough sample size to know what would happen if Rettig got more playing time you might just be...! I think most are saying that we have seen enough of both Laviano and Rettig to warrant Rettig getting an opportunity. Finally, what name calling? If you consider saying those that don't agree with that assessment don't know football or are idiotic to be "name calling" you are much to sensitive for a message board. For the record it was a general statement...so if the shoe fits, wear it!
