Who should be the Rutgers Starting QB
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Need to see more of Rettig in with the first team and with the full support of the coaches before I can vote for the rest of the season. However he deserves a fair chance as he was neck and neck with CL before and during the first game and has shown he is good enough not to be dismissed. However, hold my feet to the fire and make me pick one -- I gamble on Rettig.
Does it really matter who starts? Isn't it more about substitution and perhaps some rotation of personnel as Flood likes to call it when it applies to other positions.
Why can't we play 2 qb's or st least substitute better? Vs OSU the game was over midway thru the 3rd quarter at 35-0 and a very good time to substitute Rettig...but no, Kyle or the staff wait an entire quater/15 minutes until it became 49-0 before playing Rettig and giving him some meaningful game experience. In recent years both under Greg and now Kyle our handling of qb's had been poor. With all of the hype regarding Rettig, Gio, Dare and now Russo as well as Laviano with 2 more years of eligibility one has to wonder how many will stay or transfer out given how Kyle seems to be committed to a one qb situation. I guess most will have to wait until their senior year to see playing time. Does the program have that luxury?
Why can't we play 2 qb's or st least substitute better? Vs OSU the game was over midway thru the 3rd quarter at 35-0 and a very good time to substitute Rettig...but no, Kyle or the staff wait an entire quater/15 minutes until it became 49-0 before playing Rettig and giving him some meaningful game experience. In recent years both under Greg and now Kyle our handling of qb's had been poor. With all of the hype regarding Rettig, Gio, Dare and now Russo as well as Laviano with 2 more years of eligibility one has to wonder how many will stay or transfer out given how Kyle seems to be committed to a one qb situation. I guess most will have to wait until their senior year to see playing time. Does the program have that luxury?
I think you split until one emerges ahead of the other clearly. Ridiculous rettig is seeing zero time.
Why do we have to choose for the balance of the season? Why can't we ride the hot hand? If Flood wants to start, Laviano that's fine..but when the offense is struggling or ineffective, give Rettig a chance and vice versa. Thats not unreasonable and what most coaches do when they have evenly matched QBs with and not so effective offense.
How can you possibly say Rettig here? That's the vast majority so far. People actually want to bench our new starting QB by a 5 to 1 majority.
We are through 7 games, and Laviano is 125 for 186 (67.2% completion) for 1505 yards and 12 TD/7 INT. That is on pace for 2600 yards 21 TD and 12 INT. We have played our two easiest and 2 most difficult opponents already. You guys think that warrants the bench for a first year starter?
I could see where people would say that they want to see what Rettig can do, but how could you possibly justify asking for anything more than a split at this point? The biggest gripe with Laviano has been arm strength, but his mechanics are bad, and he has already shown he can throw downfield on occasion. Wouldn't you think that if he improves his footwork, we might see big dividends from sticking with Laviano over the next 2 years, as far as the player development and growth you get out of a multi-year starter in college?
We are through 7 games, and Laviano is 125 for 186 (67.2% completion) for 1505 yards and 12 TD/7 INT. That is on pace for 2600 yards 21 TD and 12 INT. We have played our two easiest and 2 most difficult opponents already. You guys think that warrants the bench for a first year starter?
I could see where people would say that they want to see what Rettig can do, but how could you possibly justify asking for anything more than a split at this point? The biggest gripe with Laviano has been arm strength, but his mechanics are bad, and he has already shown he can throw downfield on occasion. Wouldn't you think that if he improves his footwork, we might see big dividends from sticking with Laviano over the next 2 years, as far as the player development and growth you get out of a multi-year starter in college?
That would make sense wouldn't it?
What in the world is up with the obsession over completion %?
How is throwing a completion for 5 yards on a 3rd and 8 a positive result? For those completion % obsessives, that stat would be interpreted as a positive result.
In reality, completion % may be a misleading stat, and can be also largely irrelevant. If the % leads to points and w's then sure it's a sign of good things.
But if it leads to 3 and 0 points in a full game, then high % is irrelevant--AND POSSIBLY A NEGATIVE STAT AS IT SHOWS YOU ARE TAKING THE WRONG CHOICES. You are throwing short passes that lead to little to no points such that the high percentage is a negative. Lower % attempts, with higher probability of scoring opportunities if successful, were actually called for. Thus, we likely should have a contingent pointing out that high completion % coupled with low points is a negative stat and evidence of an ineffective qb.
Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady. I mean, as long as we're posing silly hypotheticals, why not shoot for the best.
Absolutely. Laviano has had good games and poor games, but in almost every game he's had rather long periods where the offense has stalled. I would have liked to see what Rettig could have done when the offense was doing 3 and outs.
This is what bothers me the most. Some people on this board make it look as though there is no reason to ever play the backup. For me, the number one reason is when the starter isn't doing anything at all in the game. Laviano has had some really ineffective first halves this year. IMO, a lot of coaches would have made a switch to start the second half in many of these games -- or given Laviano a short lease in the second half.
The problem with Flood is there is no such thing as a short lease. If he decides you are the starting QB, you're there for the entire season - regardless of what happens.
Remember when half of you guys were calling for Laviano to start last year over Nova? Lol.
Yes we just got blown out but Laviano was not the reason we lost that game. Our O-line was dominated. The same thing happened at Penn State. Laviano actually has very good pocket awareness and was able to avoid being hit numerous times. He is also having the best sophomore QB season I've ever seen as a Rutgers QB. He may not have a cannon arm but he's a solid QB and an above average Big Ten QB.
Too many of you guys think Rettig is going to be Tom Brady. Rettig has a great arm but I don't think he's as accurate or has the awareness that Laviano has right now. He holds on to the ball too long and doesn't scramble as well as Laviano. Maybe that changes in the future but as of now I think Laviano gives us the best shot at winning games. If we give Laviano adequate protection, he can really run this offense well, which by the way was second only to OSU in the Big Ten going into this game.
Yes we just got blown out but Laviano was not the reason we lost that game. Our O-line was dominated. The same thing happened at Penn State. Laviano actually has very good pocket awareness and was able to avoid being hit numerous times. He is also having the best sophomore QB season I've ever seen as a Rutgers QB. He may not have a cannon arm but he's a solid QB and an above average Big Ten QB.
Too many of you guys think Rettig is going to be Tom Brady. Rettig has a great arm but I don't think he's as accurate or has the awareness that Laviano has right now. He holds on to the ball too long and doesn't scramble as well as Laviano. Maybe that changes in the future but as of now I think Laviano gives us the best shot at winning games. If we give Laviano adequate protection, he can really run this offense well, which by the way was second only to OSU in the Big Ten going into this game.
I don't like gambling with RU without an ''edge''.....i'll entrust those we pay to make the decisions and whose jobs rely on them. I would like to see Rettig in when possible to get a better gauge of what were dealing with though.
I absolutely don't remember any more than a minute fraction at best calling for that. Just wrong.
The year before when Dodd was here--different story.
Just an inaccurate premise.
Not really. There were a lot of people screaming for Nova to be replaced up to the Michigan game, especially after PSU.
I believe Rettig is the better QB, but that needs to be proven. At this point, it is fair to have them both play meaningful snaps with the first team and move on from there.
You have a short memory. Also when Laviano did get in many people criticized that they weren't letting Laviano throw. I called for Laviano once, in a game that Nova was doing exceptionally bad.
Both QB's were even. I think the reason that Laviano was chosen as the starter is that he has been on the team longer, waited patiently, took his lumps on the practice squad and I think the team wanted Lava to finally get his chance. Next year however, if Rettig is better than Laviano then he will be the starter. Rettig is taking his lumps this year and is patiently waiting. The coaches aren't blind or dumb and they want to win.
So I think play Laviano this season and next season we may see Rettig if Rettig gives the team the best chance to win. The coaches went after him for a reason and it wasn't to warm the bench.
So I think play Laviano this season and next season we may see Rettig if Rettig gives the team the best chance to win. The coaches went after him for a reason and it wasn't to warm the bench.
Rettig played scout team QB all year with no chance of getting in a game. I'd say he paid whatever silly dues their are when we should just be focused on playing the best QB.
Boy the handful that evidently called for Laviano while Nova was a senior remember their calls. They were so faint as to be heard only in the minutes following an interception. Other than that it was never a bona fide issue last year.
Quite unlike this year and its tortured logic (uh its dues paying..no wait he doesn't know the playbook...wait he cant scramble...wait he throws too high. wait........
Quite unlike this year and its tortured logic (uh its dues paying..no wait he doesn't know the playbook...wait he cant scramble...wait he throws too high. wait........
Nope, Rettig can be better than Laviano, but if the coaches still think that Laviano is better, Rettig will never start. The coaches do not have to be blind or dumb to be wrong. I strongly feel that this is the case.
I would say give Laviano the first quarter and Rettig the 2nd quarter. And whomever looks better the 2nd half. If one starts regressing in consecutive series, pull him and play the other.
I have to rewatch the game when Rettig gets in but I recall when watching it live saying to myself this is why he is not in there. The offense looked confused coming out of the huddle and had to blow at least one timeout.
Rettig not starting has nothing to do with taking lumps. It has everything to do with how he manages the game, if he knows the playbook and how well the OL and CL is playing.
The OL has struggled all year long - CL has been very good scrambling and giving himself some time. I don't see HR doing that on a consistent basis.
It's as simple as that.
And all this time I thought they were using a Magic 8 Ball...I learn something knew here everyday.
Well yes they do, but some of us are content with them making the decision. That's not an option on the poll.
