Minnesota got it right...brought on the right QB from IMG without spending a scholarship and has a HC with a dynamic personality and already has 20+ mid tier FBS level recruits committed
Probably the best answer, but even when both schools get it wrong, somebody had to have ‘lost worse’.
I agree ASH does not appear to be the answer here, but at least ASH hasn't had a student athlete die in his program from probable negligence. A parents worst nightmare!
Have you heard how dynamic of a guy Fleck is? He exudes confidence and charisma in his press conferences and is clearly doing something right on the recruiting trail...and his starting QB is a true frosh who was the kid at IMG last season who took Sitkowskis job...and they are still 3-0 with a true frosh walk on QB...
Or at least someone like him, someone who had experience as a HC and had an established assistant coaching pool to pull from, not the hodge podge collection of FCS assistants Ash pull in...
Can we wait until he accomplishes something at Minnesota? I also find it ironic that everyone wants him when his staff is filled with coaches this board said sucked and wanted run out of here.
What pool? The RU/Schiano pool because that's about the only pool he swam in. It's all he knows because he hasn't been around coaching everywhere as he grew up in the profession.
But wait wait wait isn't that the RU fans/Jersey way. The other guy is always the cream of the crop
Not to mention, if he has any sniff of success he’s gone ASAP from there. I know for a fact he “accepted” another job prior to Minnesota and then bolted because he felt Minnesota was less of a project.
That's not a surprise. Didn't he accept the HC job or OC job at his alma mater NIU and then abruptly leave when Schiano offered him a position coach job at TB. The guy seems like a used car salesman more than most college HCs but people eat it up. I'm sure he'll be 'rowing the boat" anywhere he goes lol.
To be clear, you do see I wrote “sounds” not “is”. The sounds is based on the reporting. You wrote a whole lot about words that weren’t mine
You are giving Fleck WAY too much credit on this QB situation.
Wasn’t there a story that fleck had an inappropriate relationship with a prominent Rutgers booster, so he wouldn’t have been hired? I’m not trying to start internet gossip but I do recall something like this. I hope I’m wrong actually
ummmnn wow..you are making your own false gossip
wait , I thought the used car salesman tag was on Franklin? Now its on Fleck?
He is too but I think Franklin seems to demonstrate being a good executive CEO type coach. His assistant hires outside of Donovan have been solid to date. I don't see him stuck in his coaching bubble like Fleck (RU/Schiano). He obviously recruits well and he won at Vandy (even if the schedule may have been lighter, still a tough place to win).
dont forget Fleck inherited a mess at Minny,players quit the previous coach ,sexual assault investigation.Funny he has overcome that,just like Franklin at State Penn. http://www.startribune.com/universi...-gophers-in-alleged-sexual-assault/412735183/
I think @koleszar has mentioned that's not as big a mess as it's made out to be and he went into how many player were actually lost. I'm not as familiar with the topic.
If Minnesota coming off like 8 wins with a handful of kids quitting is a mess, I’d love to know how you defined RU. I’m not defending Ash here but the situations were nothing alike.
its still similar,kids thrown off team,some quit,sexual assault investigation,coach dropped.thats a recruiting bonus for Gophers?
No he didn't, the original suspensions occurred after the Iowa game that year. They then proceeded to go 5-2. Then 10 players player's were suspended for the bowl game against Washington St.(8-4) they had the boycott but decided to play and they won 17-13. Out of all those suspended only 4 were expelled. Some 20 players were accused in this assault. They went 9-4 (5-4 B1G) that year.
