Why Does There Have to Be Another Reason?

[Knight Shift]

It seems every time we try to fire a mediocre or losing coach, Rutgers has to come up with some manufactured reason or faux scandal or character assassination to justify the firing.

And in each instance it backfires. Hell, it backfired with Mike Rice, and he got paid. Fred Hill Jr. got paid. Rumors are that Flood fought back and Barchi and the BOG blinked.

Why doesn't Rutgers simply go with the approach "the on the field results are not good, and we want to make a change."

Could Flood or any of the other coaches who were fired reasonably fight back about their record on the field/court?

I don't see many coach firings that incur as much drama a Rutgers. It must be something in the Jersey water.

 

[bac2therac]

$$$$$$$$$$

 

[Cantbelieveit99]

Its because we are cheap can't pay a buyout for the cheapest P5 coach. The leadership is extremely short sighted and doesn't want to lose that tiny bit of money. And we get commitments from donors to pay that buyout who end up renegging *cough* towers *cough*

 

[Block R]

Hell, it backfired with Mike Rice, and he got paid.

Rice should have been fired immediately but not for a 'manufactured' reason; the reason was legitimate but we didn't fire him in an attempt to save money. That is the part that really backfired.

And it appears we're taking the same approach with Flood, who should have been fired instead of suspended for 3 game days. It will cost us much, much more in the long run.

 

[RUforlife]

Every institution has a culture, whether positive or negative. It takes a lot to break that culture, many come in thinking they will be the one to break that culture or move it in a different direction, but in such a large institution almost all get swallowed up in the end. To break that hiring and firing cycle would take a very strong university president totally committed to winning and not afraid to take on the powers that be, including the media and legislature. It starts at the top.

 

[lighty]

It's because RU has fans who think going 5-7 with several blow out losses is acceptable.

There are people who think it's ridiculous to expect that we should even be competitive with the likes of Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan, and Penn State -- conveniently forgetting that we will play these teams EVERY YEAR.

I used to wonder if other schools had as many families with young kids at the games since I never really see them in the stands on tv. I think for many RU games are simply a firm of entertainment people go to rather than a diehard sporting team most follow. It's why so many people -- even on this website -- are willing to accept mediocrity as the norm.

 

[greenknight]

Lightly we do not have the talent or depth YET to play these teams on a regular basis. I cannot understand the stupidity of the so called RU grads on the board that cannot realize that. Look no further than WVU who was much further along than us and continue to struggle

People on this boards expectations far exceed what our team can currently put on the field

 

[Knight Shift]

$$$$$$$$$$

They love giving $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to the lawyers. Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[lighty]

That BS. We may not have the talent to win, but we have the talent to compete.

Coaching makes a huge difference.

 

[Knight Shift]

That BS. We may not have the talent to win, but we have the talent to compete.

Coaching makes a huge difference.

I am still wondering what we did against Michigan State, and compare with Ohio State, who got absolutely schooled by MSU playing with two backup QBs.

 

[mikefla]

It seems every time we try to fire a mediocre or losing coach, Rutgers has to come up with some manufactured reason or faux scandal or character assassination to justify the firing.

And in each instance it backfires. Hell, it backfired with Mike Rice, and he got paid. Fred Hill Jr. got paid. Rumors are that Flood fought back and Barchi and the BOG blinked.

Why doesn't Rutgers simply go with the approach "the on the field results are not good, and we want to make a change."

Could Flood or any of the other coaches who were fired reasonably fight back about their record on the field/court?

I don't see many coach firings that incur as much drama a Rutgers. It must be something in the Jersey water.

heres the deal...nothing YOU say......or what you incite others to say about the program matters ONE iota.

All the blathering on the planet doesnt change the fact that the admin will decide who gets fired....and when

Congrats on another ad nauseum blather....

 

[lighty]

I am still wondering what we did against Michigan State, and compare with Ohio State, who got absolutely schooled by MSU playing with two backup QBs.

Maybe it was the guy serving as head coach that day... figures the best game RU plays all year against a good team was one without Flood on the sidelines.

 

[Local Shill]

heres the deal...nothing YOU say......or what you incite others to say about the program matters ONE iota.

All the blathering on the planet doesnt change the fact that the admin will decide who gets fired....and when

Congrats on another ad nauseum blather....

then don't read the board.

 

[OldManRiver]

That BS. We may not have the talent to win, but we have the talent to compete.

Coaching makes a huge difference.

Where is that talent in the secondary and LBs?

 

[Ridge 22]

Its because we are cheap can't pay a buyout for the cheapest P5 coach. The leadership is extremely short sighted and doesn't want to lose that tiny bit of money. And we get commitments from donors to pay that buyout who end up renegging *cough* towers *cough*

Has it been confirmed that Towers backed out of his commitment? If so, that is a disgrace

 

[ScarletKnightRider]

It's because RU has fans who think going 5-7 with several blow out losses is acceptable.

There are people who think it's ridiculous to expect that we should even be competitive with the likes of Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan, and Penn State -- conveniently forgetting that we will play these teams EVERY YEAR.

I used to wonder if other schools had as many families with young kids at the games since I never really see them in the stands on tv. I think for many RU games are simply a firm of entertainment people go to rather than a diehard sporting team most follow. It's why so many people -- even on this website -- are willing to accept mediocrity as the norm.

Ummmmm No. It's because our cheap administration has no leadership and doesn't know how to run a big time athletic department effectively. Barchi and co. don't post on internet message boards. If you think that the way we run our program is based off of what 2 or 3 posters said on Rivals, then you are beyond confused. I really don't know what imaginary RU fans you talk to regularly who are claiming that this has been a successful season, but they don't exist.

 

[lighty]

Obviously it's because of money; however, one of the reasons the money is a factor IMO is because there are a lot of fans who think seasons like this are acceptable.

 

[rutgersguy1]

It shouldn't come to that. Like I've said in other threads, I rarely ever come across for cause to let go of coaches. Tim Beckman is the only one recently I can think of and his was actually something egregious related to player safety. Even Butch Davis got his money from UNC as far as I know.

Just pay the buyout and move on like every other school does. I don't know what's the big deal because in real practical terms it's not as much as it may seem. All the assistants come off as a liability as soon as they get a new job. How many are going to sit around? Not many if any, you get stale sitting around they'll be jumping on new staffs as quickly as they can. Fraser and Flood are the only ones entitled to any offset and Fraser's ends in 7months or so and is only up to a max of 100K. All this money isn't paid in a lump sump either, it's over the life of their contracts on the regular university pay schedule. The numbers aren't too big to begin with and in real practical terms it's probably even less.

 

[RUsSKii]

Where is that talent in the secondary and LBs?

The talent is there, but not turning around to look for the passed ball, giving opposing wide receivers 10-15yard cushions, and schemed out of position to make tackles..

 

[RUInsanity]

Obviously it's because of money; however, one of the reasons the money is a factor IMO is because there are a lot of fans who think seasons like this are acceptable.

Sorry but that makes no sense at all. If you could explain the correlation between 5-7 happy fans (if there is even such an amimal) and the relative lack of giving at RU, it would be appreciated.