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Wrestling coach begs FB fans to give Yankee Stadium "wrestling thing a chance"

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Just got an email from wrestling coach Scott Goodale, essentially begging football fans to attend the wrestling match at Yankee Stadium. I guess Rutgers Athletics is realizing that a lot of football season ticket holders aren't going to Yankee Stadium at all. And of the ones that will go, a lot aren't going to go to the wrestling match 3 hours before the football game, just to be held captive during the break and subject to $8 hot dogs and $12 beers, when they could just show up later or hang out at a local bar for 1/4 the cost.

Goodall writes, "I understand that watching the football team play one of its home games away from High Point Solutions Stadium is different, but our athletic department has turned the day into something very special by scheduling this doubleheader with the wrestling program."

I still think it will be almost impossible to get the average football fan into the stadium 3 hours before the start of the football game. Sure, wrestling fans will attend plus a handful of the curious. But I don't see the majority of football fans entering the stadium 3 hours early to watch a wrestling match and then just hang around for 90 minutes, when they could be at a local bar instead.
 
Just shows what a mistake this was. Having the wrestling coach publicly admit that this is wrong but begs us to come out anyway.
Hobbs screwed two sports here.
 
You are absolutely right. No way would I go to the wrestling match. (may not even go to the football at yanx).
Sorry Coach Goodall. You are doing a great job. Good luck the rest of the way
 
Just have to p[ass something along here. Yesterday I spotted a few RU t-shirts and one had 'wrestling' on it. I stopped and asked if he was from the RU wrestling team and sure enough he was. These gentlemen spent their Sunday morning volunteering at an autism 5k/walk in the Princeton area, helping to raise money for an organization that serves adults and children with autism. So kudos for coming out on a rainy morning to give back and lend a hand.
 
Hobbs signed the Agreement.
Could have and should have walked away.

Guess he forgot to do the right thing for the RU season ticket holder.
 
I am a huge wrestling fan and it would have to be perfect weather for me to even consider showing up 3 hours early to watch a wrestling match especially against a terrible opponent like Maryland.
 
I love watching the wrestling team at the RAC. The three of us try to make it at least twice a year. I don't understand why Pat Hobbs feels like this is a good idea considering the weather, seating and host of other issues, specifically cost. Just my thoughts.
 
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**** it not worth my breath lol...complain away!!
Don't think it is whining here.
We are all in the the football game in the Bronx.
We rarely have time to tailgate before games at HPSS, and we certainly will not have time to show up 3 hours early to watch wrestling.
On top of that, not really interested in watching wrestling.

It's a fine idea if there is a core of RU football fans that also like wrestling. Unrealistic to expect more than 50% of those attending the game to show up to watch wrestling. That number is probably more like 20-30%.
 
There we go: It's all Julie Hermann's fault!
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The other problem, not Rutgers fault, is that he is begging fans to come to the Stadium to watch wrestling before a football game in a baseball stadium and we still have no idea what time this will start and won't know for another week. Planning for an event who's start time can be anywhere between 8am an 5pm isn't ideal.
 
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Obviously I'm in the minority but I'm a football season ticket holder who was set against attending but wouldn't miss the wrestling match and especially Suriano's debut! Therefore, I'll be at both and expect basically no problem with boredom or spending money between events.

I get it. If you are a wrestling fan, this is probably a great opportunity to watch wrestling and football. But in my 50+ years, I have never watched a college wrestling match. If Rutgers wanted me to check out wrestling, it would be easier to encourage me to go to a match at the RAC (or where ever they are) instead of showing up 3 hours early to a football game and giving up whatever tailgate/pre-game experience I could have at Yankee Stadium.
 
Your Loss. I will be there for the full event. Both Wrestling and Football. 6 Hours of Entertainment with a 90 minute break in between on a Saturday for $45.00 is a steal.

Not to mention the fact the Maryland is a winnable game, and Wrestling, and potential Top 10 Team this season, will likely shut Maryland out in impressive fashion.

I've said this a dozen times and I will hold to it. This is a one off situation. We all know how we got here. My issue with how most fans are thinking, talking and only about themselves instead of the team(s) and players on the field, and this is what separates us from other peer schools in the Big Ten. If Michigan played in a Cow Pasture in Grand Rapids on a Saturday Afternoon there would by 50,00 people there, because it is more about the team and school and not the location.

I get your pissed and you made your feelings felt, I did too, but who really loses in the end?

I can see it already when the game starts there will ultimately be some loser on this board who will post "nobody showed up to Yankee Stadium.....we showed them" thread. Who did you really show? What did you ultimately prove?

Out of curiosity, If Rutgers beats Purdue this week, and plays tough against Michigan do you change your mind about going?

If you are a season ticket holder you obviously have tickets.

The people who cant see the forest through the trees are the biggest problem with our university and Athletics Department.
 
Here we go with the debates again. Some fans would do just about anything to support their team...others won't do some things like go to the Bronx. The timing here is the problem for fans who are willing to go to YS to support Rutgers. I wonder if they would consider allowing fans to leave after wrestling and come back in for football. I doubt they would, but it is one way to get Rutgers fans in early for wrestling.
 
I get it. If you are a wrestling fan, this is probably a great opportunity to watch wrestling and football. But in my 50+ years, I have never watched a college wrestling match. If Rutgers wanted me to check out wrestling, it would be easier to encourage me to go to a match at the RAC (or where ever they are) instead of showing up 3 hours early to a football game and giving up whatever tailgate/pre-game experience I could have at Yankee Stadium.

Wrestling has over 2000 Season ticket holders and I would venture to guess that many of them are cross over Football Holders as well. Last year the attendance at the Battle at the Birthplace proved that people can take 2 hours out of their tailgate to support another highly successful program so this is a moot point in my opinion.

Upstream ... You have an open invitation to come to any one match this season. I will provide you with one ticket and the direction to help you understand the sport. I guarantee you will get hooked like so many others. All I ask in return is a cup of Coffee. DM me if you are interested.
 
Your Loss. I will be there for the full event. Both Wrestling and Football. 6 Hours of Entertainment with a 90 minute break in between on a Saturday for $45.00 is a steal.

Not to mention the fact the Maryland is a winnable game, and Wrestling, and potential Top 10 Team this season, will likely shut Maryland out in impressive fashion.

I've said this a dozen times and I will hold to it. This is a one off situation. We all know how we got here. My issue with how most fans are thinking, talking and only about themselves instead of the team(s) and players on the field, and this is what separates us from other peer schools in the Big Ten. If Michigan played in a Cow Pasture in Grand Rapids on a Saturday Afternoon there would by 50,00 people there, because it is more about the team and school and not the location.

I get your pissed and you made your feelings felt, I did too, but who really loses in the end?

I can see it already when the game starts there will ultimately be some loser on this board who will post "nobody showed up to Yankee Stadium.....we showed them" thread. Who did you really show? What did you ultimately prove?

Out of curiosity, If Rutgers beats Purdue this week, and plays tough against Michigan do you change your mind about going?

If you are a season ticket holder you obviously have tickets.

The people who cant see the forest through the trees are the biggest problem with our university and Athletics Department.
Wow. So many of you still don't get it.
This has never been about how good or bad Rutgers is playing. Never!
Ive been there 3 times for Rutgers games. Two of them bowl games. It just isnt a fun experience, period.

The 3 other times Rutgers had no say in the matter. What makes this frustrating is this was Rutgers choice even though a large majority of season ticket holders were against it.
 
Your Loss. I will be there for the full event. Both Wrestling and Football. 6 Hours of Entertainment with a 90 minute break in between on a Saturday for $45.00 is a steal.

Not to mention the fact the Maryland is a winnable game, and Wrestling, and potential Top 10 Team this season, will likely shut Maryland out in impressive fashion.

I've said this a dozen times and I will hold to it. This is a one off situation. We all know how we got here. My issue with how most fans are thinking, talking and only about themselves instead of the team(s) and players on the field, and this is what separates us from other peer schools in the Big Ten. If Michigan played in a Cow Pasture in Grand Rapids on a Saturday Afternoon there would by 50,00 people there, because it is more about the team and school and not the location.

I get your pissed and you made your feelings felt, I did too, but who really loses in the end?

I can see it already when the game starts there will ultimately be some loser on this board who will post "nobody showed up to Yankee Stadium.....we showed them" thread. Who did you really show? What did you ultimately prove?

Out of curiosity, If Rutgers beats Purdue this week, and plays tough against Michigan do you change your mind about going?

If you are a season ticket holder you obviously have tickets.

The people who cant see the forest through the trees are the biggest problem with our university and Athletics Department.

Well said. There was one person here earlier this year who swore he wouldn't go to YS even if it was a bowl game for Rutgers. So yes, I am willing to bet there are a good numbers who want to show the administration "what's up" by shunning the team irregardless of the circumstances.
 
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Screw it I wanna have some fun today we just won a damn game 2 days ago and I'm still in a GREAT mood lol:

- where is this "begging" that the OP speaks of?

- where does Goodale "pulicly admit that this is wrong"?

..and while I'm at it:

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I love watching the wrestling team at the RAC. The three of us try to make it at least twice a year. I don't understand why Pat Hobbs feels like this is a good idea considering the weather, seating and host of other issues, specifically cost. Just my thoughts.

From a Wrestling Standpoint, it is about growing the sport. College Wrestling has done a good job in recent years with Creating unique way to watch the sport. Beauty and the Beast Matches (Wrestling & Gymnastics), outdoor Matches, The Times Square Beat the Streets event for US Wrestling etc....

Here is a terrific article about it

https://intermatwrestle.com/articles/17317
 
Your Loss. I will be there for the full event. Both Wrestling and Football. 6 Hours of Entertainment with a 90 minute break in between on a Saturday for $45.00 is a steal.

Not to mention the fact the Maryland is a winnable game, and Wrestling, and potential Top 10 Team this season, will likely shut Maryland out in impressive fashion.

I've said this a dozen times and I will hold to it. This is a one off situation. We all know how we got here. My issue with how most fans are thinking, talking and only about themselves instead of the team(s) and players on the field, and this is what separates us from other peer schools in the Big Ten. If Michigan played in a Cow Pasture in Grand Rapids on a Saturday Afternoon there would by 50,00 people there, because it is more about the team and school and not the location.

I get your pissed and you made your feelings felt, I did too, but who really loses in the end?

I can see it already when the game starts there will ultimately be some loser on this board who will post "nobody showed up to Yankee Stadium.....we showed them" thread. Who did you really show? What did you ultimately prove?

Out of curiosity, If Rutgers beats Purdue this week, and plays tough against Michigan do you change your mind about going?

If you are a season ticket holder you obviously have tickets.

The people who cant see the forest through the trees are the biggest problem with our university and Athletics Department.

I'm not sure who you are responding to here. I don't think anyone in this thread said they weren't going to the football game. I am going to the football game, just like I go to all home games (with rare exceptions). I'm not happy about the game being at Yankee Stadium ... but I plan to go anyway.

However, I don't think I'm going to the wrestling match. I'm also not going to the swim meet that day or the volleyball match the following week. I'm sure these student-athletes, along with the student-athletes on the gymnastics team, softball team, track & field teams, and golf teams are great people and well deserving of fan support. Unfortunately, I don't have the time or inclination to show up to all of their competitions to support them.

I'm not actually opposed to attending a wrestling match. But to get me to attend my first collegiate wrestling match ever is going to take a little more than "show up to the Bronx 3 hours earlier, and then after the wrestling match sit around captive for 1.5 hours while buying $8 hot dogs and $12 beers." Pat Hobbs at one time talked about a
 
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You really are in a good mood [cheers]Rutgers/Giants Ws are good for your mental state. Now lets a get a W in the Bronx tonight!

You know I didn't even watch the Giants last night? I was binge-watching something yesterday and when I saw us go up, early, decided not to f* with things LOL!
 
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I'm not sure who you are responding to here. I don't think anyone in this thread said they weren't going to the football game. I am going to the football game, just like I go to all home games (with rare exceptions). I'm not happy about the game being at Yankee Stadium ... but I plan to go anyway.

However, I don't think I'm going to the wrestling match. I'm also not going to the swim meet that day or the volleyball match the following week. I'm sure these student-athletes, along with the student-athletes on the gymnastics team, softball team, track & field teams, and golf teams are great people and well deserving of fan support. Unfortunately, I don't have the time or inclination to show up to all of their competitions to support them.

I'm not actually opposed to attending a wrestling match. But to get me to attend my first collegiate wrestling match ever is going to take a little more than "show up to the Bronx 3 hours earlier, and then after the wrestling match sit around captive for 1.5 hours while buying $8 hot dogs and $12 beers." Pat Hobbs at one time talked about a
With that attitude, if you only have one ticket, then you're screwed. I had to buy 2 tickets since I have 2 season tickets. Since I'm coming alone, if I want to leave the stadium for awhile after the wrestling match, I can and will be able to use my second ticket to get back in.

I hate football games at Yankee Stadium, but I'm going for 2 reasons - 1. an opportunity to see my 1st RU wrestling match (haven't seen a wrestling match since I graduated from Phillipsburg HS in 1965) and 2. to see if Grant can take a kick all the way or Blackshear make some ridiculous run or we block a kick or connect on a bomb for a TD or we win. Maybe it's my age, but it's a lot easier for me to roll with the punches and look for the good part of a not-so-good situation than to spend a lot of time bitching and moaning (NOT directed at you Upstream).
 
You know I didn't even watch the Giants last night? I was binge-watching something yesterday and when I saw us go up, early, decided not to f* with things LOL!
Well if you watched the last two Yankees maybe you can take a break. The Yankees can all the good karma it can get! Lol
 
I've said this a dozen times and I will hold to it. * This is a one off situation. We all know how we got here. My issue with how most fans are thinking, talking and only about themselves instead of the team(s) and players on the field, and this is what separates us from other peer schools in the Big Ten. If Michigan played in a Cow Pasture in # Grand Rapids on a Saturday Afternoon there would by 50,000 people there, because it is more about the team and school and not the location.

I get your pissed and you made your feelings felt, I did too, but who really loses in the end?

I can see it already when the game starts there will ultimately be some loser on this board who will post + "nobody showed up to Yankee Stadium.....we showed them" thread. Who did you really show? What did you ultimately prove?

^The people who can't see the forest through the trees are the biggest problem with our University and Athletics Department.
* We'll see as I asked the man and he did not give me a straight answer.

# Grand Rapids is actually in the state of Michigan. Your better analogy would have been Jerry's World in Dallas. But even then still not the same as that game was an OOC and I'm pretty sure Michigan and Florida got paid by the Cowboys and didn't pay the Cowboys for the "honor" of playing there. LOL

+ If we never go back, I think it proves A LOT.

^ Well then what we need are few more lumberjacks to fix that. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he couldn't get his chainsaw started for this one if it never happens again, but if it does...what say the rest of you?
 
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Your Loss. I will be there for the full event. Both Wrestling and Football. 6 Hours of Entertainment with a 90 minute break in between on a Saturday for $45.00 is a steal.
So you don't have to pay for transportation or parking? Didn't know they were not collecting the bridge tolls and bus/train fare for Rutgers fans. That's great! And you'll be able to set up and tailgate for hours before the event without being hassled? Fantastic!
 
With that attitude, if you only have one ticket, then you're screwed. I had to buy 2 tickets since I have 2 season tickets. Since I'm coming alone, if I want to leave the stadium for awhile after the wrestling match, I can and will be able to use my second ticket to get back in.

I hate football games at Yankee Stadium, but I'm going for 2 reasons - 1. an opportunity to see my 1st RU wrestling match (haven't seen a wrestling match since I graduated from Phillipsburg HS in 1965) and 2. to see if Grant can take a kick all the way or Blackshear make some ridiculous run or we block a kick or connect on a bomb for a TD or we win. Maybe it's my age, but it's a lot easier for me to roll with the punches and look for the good part of a not-so-good situation than to spend a lot of time bitching and moaning (NOT directed at you Upstream).

You must have enjoyed watching Bob Zaro and Jack Thompson at The Pit! My first time there they were selling 8x11 glossies of Zaro in the lobby,’lol.
Had never seen that at a HS event before or after, lol.
 
Wrestling has over 2000 Season ticket holders and I would venture to guess that many of them are cross over Football Holders as well. Last year the attendance at the Battle at the Birthplace proved that people can take 2 hours out of their tailgate to support another highly successful program so this is a moot point in my opinion.

So do the 2000 wrestling season ticket holders have tickets to this event and are they all planning on showing up?
 
So do the 2000 wrestling season ticket holders have tickets to this event and are they all planning on showing up?

This is a Football Game with dual admission
so I would think the dual Season ticket holders will show up. anyone not a dual holder would have had to purchase a ticket to the football game.

So you don't have to pay for transportation or parking? Didn't know they were not collecting the bridge tolls and bus/train fare for Rutgers fans. That's great! And you'll be able to set up and tailgate for hours before the event without being hassled? Fantastic!

Spanky I drive an hour each way to New Brunswick and pay $40.00 to park already. An extra $15.00 to cross the bridge is negligible to watch my favorite team play. But Being that i live in Northern NJ the savings in gas offset that toll by about $10.00 so........ It's a silly argument IMO
 
This is a Football Game with dual admission
so I would think the dual Season ticket holders will show up. anyone not a dual holder would have had to purchase a ticket to the football game.

So I'd be interested in hearing feedback from wrestling season ticket holders who are *not* football season ticket holders. What's their situation? From the outside looking in, they're being forced to buy tickets to a football game in the Bronx that they may not have any interest in.

And from the $40 seats they're not gonna see a damn thing on the mat.
 
Every time the Yankee Stadium game get mentioned the exact same group of chronic complainers show up with the same whine about the game, & most of these complainers are the same group that complain about everything. We already know how you feel, but the game will be played, so stop crying & stay home or come out and support your teams, really tired of hearing the same small group complain over & over & over again.
 
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