Monangai > Berger

[ru-baby]

Ru went after Berger twice. He opted the second time for the Mel Tucker pitch.

Monangai to my understanding was in the recruiting mix to help get Berger. Gald GS kept with it and offered and honored evben after Berger chose Wisc. With Saquon Taylor and rb near misses, so nice to catch a break!

Seems like a great kid and has been a monster all year and today when he was needed. Kudos to KM!

 

[Zak57]

Does anyone else see some Ahmad Bradshaw in Monangai? Pretty sure he's going to have a really good NFL career even though he might be drafted late or a UDFA.

 

[ru109]

Some guys look good getting off the bus, other guys look good once the game starts. I think we all know where both of these players fall.

 

[RULegion]

If Berger transfers to Rutgers after the season how would you feel? I would welcome him…could be a good safety

 

[WhichReligionIsRight]

I see Pacheco in Monangai.

Berger had some nice runs today, but I thought Monangai was (and has been) on another level.

 

[RUTGERS95]

see my posts all time, KM is better and should get the ball 20x

 

[Rufaninga]

KM has great vision, patience, balance & keeps driving his legs. Really enjoy seeing him run

 

[ScarletKid2008]

There was a stretch in the game where Greg was playing more Brown and Young back there. And I was saying out loud that was a mistake.

 

[RUTGERS95]

KM has great vision, patience, balance & keeps driving his legs. Really enjoy seeing him run

reminds me of Emmit

 

[mdk01]

I see Pacheco in Monangai.

Berger had some nice runs today, but I thought Monangai was (and has been) on another level.

Not Pacheco's speed

 

[RU from Jersey]

I see Ray Rice with a little bit of Pacheco in terms Monagai being able to find a hole like Rice and kind of a herky jerky running style like Pacheco.

 

[cardinal2383]

Not Pacheco's speed

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[RULegion]

I see Maurice Jones Drew. Had a nice career

 

[cardinal2383]

During the recruiting stage Berger had all of the hype, the four stars etc the 4.4 forty. He had all of the curb appeal and multiple big time offers. etc.. What was KM, a 2 star with little recruiting fan fare although his high school stats were off the charts But most people who saw both said KM was a better running back.

Needless to say......Berger has had a fairly good college career but not close to KM's.
KM had alot of Ray Rice in him today. Great vision, great balance and impossible to bring down

If he had been rated higher we probably don't get him.

 

[rufeelinit]

Does anyone else see some Ahmad Bradshaw in Monangai? Pretty sure he's going to have a really good NFL career even though he might be drafted late or a UDFA.

I see a little more of an elusive Ray Rice. Similar style where they seek out contact and keep moving forward instead of going down.

Seems clear to me he should be the bell cow going forward and limited only by how much work he can handle.

 

[ru-baby]

But most people who saw both said KM was a better running back

That of course is not accurate as COACHES saw both and berger had offers from everywhere and KM had two. The people paid to watch them play made determinations. "Most" nearly all of them. So most people who saw them didnt have that take. Glad it worked out and it's a great career unfolding but let's not rewrite history.

 

[Shelby65]

Monongai is a punishing runner more than he is elusive. Rice was the opposite. Not a good comparison.

 

[RUtrumpet92]

KM is a monster.

 

[pmvon]

Brown is a feature back who will likely look for another opportunity next year if he doesn’t get more plays. kM is a beast and taken the spot. Have to go with the hot hand but feel bad for Brown.

 

[RUTGERS95]

they both had very comparable stats

Berger is faster on the clock and bigger in addition to being a good receiver out of the backfield. Unfortunately, a lot of scouts today are tied to numbers vs the eyes

when you don't have 4.4 speed, 3/4 of coaches won't even watch regardless of how well you run

 

[RUTGERS95]

Brown is a feature back who will likely look for another opportunity next year if he doesn’t get more plays. kM is a beast and taken the spot. Have to go with the hot hand but feel bad for Brown.

buh bye

we are stacked at rb and KM and Benjamin are the future of the position

 

[mdk01]

buh bye

we are stacked at rb and KM and Benjamin are the future of the position

Not so stacked that a quality big back when healthy should be ignored. That being said, when you have a player at any position who's in a zone you stick with him. And for a couple of games last season it was Brown.j

 

[kupuna133]

That of course is not accurate as COACHES saw both and berger had offers from everywhere and KM had two. The people paid to watch them play made determinations. "Most" nearly all of them. So most people who saw them didnt have that take. Glad it worked out and it's a great career unfolding but let's not rewrite history.

Saw them both play in high school. Was much more impressed with Monangai in the games I saw. Spoke with people I know that coach in the big north and they all said Berger presents better at combines and has better measurements that is why he had so many more offers. Both are d1 players but Monangai was the guy they worried about defending against.

 

[hoquat63]

Kyle had 100+ in 4th Q according to BTN

 

[RUskoolie]

Looks like Jawan Jamison but has the strength like Ray.

 

[Kbee3]

I saw both of them play a number of times in high school and have posted here many times that I thought we got the better Don Bosco back. Berger always reminded me of Savon. Kyle was more explosive.
We got the right one.

 

[rufeelinit]

Monongai is a punishing runner more than he is elusive. Rice was the opposite. Not a good comparison.

Ray Rice was not a punishing runner? He had a much better offensive line to run behind but he gave out as much punishment as took.

 

[Shelby65]

Not punishing like this. Great college player, quicker and more elusive than KM. KM described here as a beast. Don’t think Ray was that kind of runner.

 

[Zak57]

I really hate to say this but I'm pretty sure @kyk1827 was very high on Monangai. That could be the only thing he's been correct on.

 

[letitrip2]

KM is a beast - that 4th Q was a thing of beauty.

 

[sct1111]

Not punishing like this. Great college player, quicker and more elusive than KM. KM described here as a beast. Don’t think Ray was that kind of runner.

Yes he was.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Not so stacked that a quality big back when healthy should be ignored. That being said, when you have a player at any position who's in a zone you stick with him. And for a couple of games last season it was Brown.j

he'd make a good short yardage back but he's not the best back on the roster and dare I say, is fighting for 3 spot on depth chart

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

For the jets fans here. He reminds me of bilal powell. You guys remember him?

 

[yesrutgers01]

Looks like Jawan Jamison but has the strength like Ray.

I am going to take this word for it...

BTW- today did remind me of a combo of Jawan and Ray. Was thinking the same thing. The thing I would have hated if I was on the Dline with Ray though, you just couldn't see him behind the OL and he would hit his spot with a center of balance 2 ft off the ground. Would be like trying to tackle a 210 lb boulder rolling down a hill but not seeing it until it hit you...

 

[yesrutgers01]

Also- in regard to today's game- we may see other B1G players that may show more yds and or TD's then KM today but would almost be impossible for him not to get the B1G offensive player of the week. I have never seen a 100 yd quarter where the longest run was only 21 yds.

 

[Shelby65]

Amen, esp since MSU knew he’d be getting the ball almost every time.

 

[RUSK97]

Brown is a feature back who will likely look for another opportunity next year if he doesn’t get more plays. kM is a beast and taken the spot. Have to go with the hot hand but feel bad for Brown.

He’d be an idiot if he left. KM is a junior. Would not be surprised if he tests the waters in the draft.

 

[RUich]

I would think a lot of defenders are not happy to see him coming.

 

[drewbagel423]

Not so stacked that a quality big back when healthy should be ignored. That being said, when you have a player at any position who's in a zone you stick with him. And for a couple of games last season it was Brown.j

This is what's surprising to me. Not taking anything away from KM but our offense took a big hit last year after Brown went out with his injury. Is he still not fully recovered or is KM just playing that much better this year?

 

[RUTBAY1]

I see Pacheco in Monangai.

Pacheco is faster but Monangai has better balance and vision.