Uh, yes.
Rutgers is always there to win. So's the other team. That's why they play the game.
The points I made stand, unpopular as they may be with most fans who think teams owe them something.
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Rutgers is always there to win. So's the other team. That's why they play the game.
The points I made stand, unpopular as they may be with most fans who think teams owe them something.
We have watched since 2014 how hard it is to win in this B1G conference and the eastern division. We have seen similar teams come in and win when expected. I say why the F not… just play harder than that guy across from you. One thing which concerns me and others is what appears to be a lack of “ equal” calls by ref crews. What we saw Saturday was totally ineptness or just a bad day? In a close contest it is important. We are still being looked at as an outsider after 10 years. Tough hill to climb.
I don't anticipate IU being a hostile atmosphere
Wrong… there is absolutely nothing wrong believing you are the better team… yes it is a contest of basically equal however I. This case Rutgers needs to prove it.
the players focusing should not be a problem, one would think
there is always the dumb play calling worry
I think the staff is going to try to pound away with Kyle.... maybe starting with him, and again late if it matters, keeping him a bit fresh for that point in the game, by subbing in the middle with our other backs
that should not be dumb play calling, and is actually
conservative if it works
Only players from the "elite" are ever seriously considered for the Heisman. The fact that these players are definitely playing behind O-lines that are filled with 4and5 star players, same with other offensive weapons that the defenses have to deal with just never seems to enter the picture. Certainly not fair, but it is what it is.
Pacheco is a perfect example of this. Not that he should have been in the Heisman race, but simply overlooked because he was playing for a poor team. Barely getting picked in the draft and having to prove himself not only in the NFL, but a top program already with top RB's is quite a task. Yet, here he is the leading rusher for the reining Super Bowl team.
Kyle may well end up having to take the same route to the pros. But, a lot of people in the NFL who passed on Pacheco, may well be put on notice not to be so rigid in their decisions this time.
Pacheco is a perfect example of this. Not that he should have been in the Heisman race, but simply overlooked because he was playing for a poor team. Barely getting picked in the draft and having to prove himself not only in the NFL, but a top program already with top RB's is quite a task. Yet, here he is the leading rusher for the reining Super Bowl team.
Kyle may well end up having to take the same route to the pros. But, a lot of people in the NFL who passed on Pacheco, may well be put on notice not to be so rigid in their decisions this time.
Heisman crew loves hype and if a player isn't close to a title game he wont get it .
Rice only got 7th in voting and he was better than 1-6
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Because Rutgers is a better team/program now, scouts from the NFL will look with more than a passing interest. Monongai doesn't have the uphill batter Pacheco faced. A better program and better play by the OL help NFL scouts judge Monogai more accurately.
It's an interesting inflection point for the fanbase and the team.
It's inarguable we are better than last year and most preseason expectations.
That comes with increased expectations and game we "should win" - for better or worse.
Are they a guarantee? Of course not.
But if we are truly a mid level Big Ten team then games against "lower level" Big Ten teams are "should wins".
Fanbase can’t have it both ways: "We're better and in a much better place. But shouldn't have increased expectations and losing to worse teams is okay."
IMO, the play-calling has been really pretty good this year. I haven't seen plays where it seems like "that was a dumb call".
To feel confident that I'm judging play-calling fairly, I'd want to be in all the practices and meetings and in the huddles and so forth. So I'm fully informed about what the actual play call really was, how it was supposed to play out, and where players didn't execute their jobs. Versus just judging based on how things played out on the field. Because the call and the execution can be very different. And the opponent is working just as hard to disrupt our plays as our guys are to execute them - which can make even great play calls fail.
We fans judge that stuff using hindsight and without the information necessary to be very accurate in our perceptions. We mostly can only judge results. Not saying the coaching staff is gonna be perfect. But I bet the staff could make pretty good cases for pretty much every play they called this season. And I'd bet that most experienced coaches, when presented with the thinking behind the play call, would agree it was worth trying at the time.
Okay that’s all fine and good. My point is to counter the constant need to bellyache about how “we could lose this game”. Yes that’s obviously a possiblity, in the same way it was possible Maryland could have beaten Ohio State. We are the better team. It’s not outside the realm of possibility for better teams to lose, but we are the better team by virtually any metric.
I agree that, statistically speaking, this is the best chance for a win in the remainder of the season.
But also, I coached sports long enough to realize that specific matchups can lead to surprising results. So even if we were to lose this weekend, which would suck, I wouldn't be surprised if we win one of the other games.
I think the team had a pretty bad, non-representative game against MSU. A bit of a valley in the peaks and valleys that take place with any improving team. If the team can put it all together for a few games, get back to largely mistake-free football, then I think we could win a game or two where we're underdogs.
I wouldn't bet on it. Just saying the potential is finally there where it's not out of the realm of possibility as it seemed to be in prior seasons .
you fall and bump your head? You've been dropping pearls for a bit now.
have to say, agreeing with you on football more and more haha:)
I believe that is this past game we had several situations that were 2nd and long, 3rd and long, and we had a running play where Kyle got us there, or close....
So, you don't question a call like that, but against OSU, PU,
the same play might be, one yard, and a cloud of dust
The average fan then questions why we did not throw in what appears to be an obvious pass situation......
one of the announcers commented late that he thought the MSU defense was looking for passes from us, and were back on their haunches, thus the run worked better.
Hmmm.
If only someone repeatedly said KM was actually our lead back last year and that missing Brown wasn’t as impactful as it was being made to be.
@Plum Street Do I get the “genius” tag for my post?
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...breakdowns-running-backs.263248/#post-6377729
If only someone repeatedly said KM was actually our lead back last year and that missing Brown wasn’t as impactful as it was being made to be.
@Plum Street Do I get the “genius” tag for my post?
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...breakdowns-running-backs.263248/#post-6377729
I think they're both really good. But have to say Browns ceiling is higher. Think he can be a starting back in the NFL. If Brown is healthy I think you split the carries.
Sure, but the average fan doesn't know what he's talking about, right? We often don't know why coaches chose a particular play. We definitely don't know why the coaches didn't chose some other particular play, and there could be many good reasons in a particular context of the game.
But there are always reasons and, if the coaches had the time to educate us and explain it all, then the reasonable among us would probably understand the choices a lot better.
Whenever a play is called that doesn't work, it's natural to think some other play would've worked better. But of course there's no way for fans to prove it - it's pure speculation, entirely hypothetical, and based on very limited information.
OTOH, the coaching staff, after a game, can (and does) review everything and with their full knowledge of players and plays and how things are supposed to go versus how execution went, they will see stuff they might've done differently with more time to think it through and with hindsight as a guide.
No longer acceptable. We respect Indiana but should realize this is a very winnable game IF we come to play at all levels.
That is the point- prior to the season it was winnable and maybe a tossup.
7 games in, it takes a major WTF for us to lose.
If we win on Saturday the powers that be will say well they’re bowl eligible first time since 2014. They’ll also say they haven’t beaten any good teams in 2023. If we lose Saturday guaranteed our “silent week “ posters will be all over that. It is why a win is a big deal.
We are only 4.5 point favs this weekend, basically like we were against Mich State. So, not a shocker if they beat us. I like us to cover that spread and by a good margin but what do I know? 6-6 or getting to 7-5 with our schedule means that we have a solid/quality team. Another step in the right direction. Bowl game even if it is in NYC.
I'm praying Reggie Sutton makes it thru the season without injury. That will make me very happy.
I'm praying Reggie Sutton makes it thru the season without injury. That will make me very happy.
Favored on the road is much different than the same number at home.
Please explain? Are you saying there is a greater chance we win this week because the spread is the same as last week? Most say home team gets 3 points. But the spread is the spread. If you know something more than you must be a very rich man with your winnings.
The only thing that gives me pause with Indiana is the schedule they have played so far. OSU/Mich/Maryland/L'Ville
That is a tough slate and may skew numbers. But...I then look at their 2 wins and they barely beat Akron- 4 OT and Indiana St is really bad.
That is a tough slate and may skew numbers. But...I then look at their 2 wins and they barely beat Akron- 4 OT and Indiana St is really bad.
Lots of things go into the spread.
Yea there is a greater chance we win even though the spread is the same.
Home teams are assumed to naturally be better at home than on the road. As such, they get a boost they wouldn’t have on the road or a neutral field.
If home field is worth 3pts (as you say) then a neutral field would be Rutgers -6 (removing the home boost for Indiana).
Give Rutgers 3pt home boost and it goes to Rutgers -9.
Statistically proven. Home teams have an advantage. Be it the crowd making noise or not having to travel/maintaining routines Gamblers would take advantage if this wasn't factored into the spread and always bet the home team and casinos would lose money. Ignore these facts at your peril.
It is because Carter takes 85% of the snaps. Kind of made me wonder in the game why they were using Berger so much.
So then why did you ask the original question???
You obviously agree that a Road -3 is different than a Home -3.
Being a Road -3 implies you are much better than the opponent compared to being a Home -3.
So yes, we should be more likely to win this week even though the spread is the same.
Oddly enough, that's the reason why he pouted and left Madison. Although I will say Mellusi is gaining some 6yds a rush, so he would've been buried in the depth chart there too.
