OT: Watching Possible Snow Event for late Wednesday Night/Thursday

[rurichdog]

Sun is out in Trenton. Didn't have to shovel my sidewalk or half my driveway.

 

[198hamilton]

Ended up with 11 in Jefferson.

 

[TonyVolt]

NUTS - it's essentially the same forecast for all of Central/North Jersey/NYC, as I said, but you weren't willing to read, lol. Right now most forecasts are for a general 6-10" of snow from maybe 3 am to noon, for the most part, with some heavy snow in that timeframe, everywhere. Today's models are indicating that perhaps 8-12" is a more likely snowfall for the whole region, including Hudson County. And with temps dropping into the teens tomorrow night, if you have a car on the street, it's going to be encased in ice and snow for a couple of days if you don't shovel it out by sunset. How's that?

Guy is always wrong. Why don't you try a new hobby like knitting or something?

 

[Scarlet dollar]

Guy is always wrong. Why don't you try a new hobby like knitting or something?

don't like it, don't read it. Many of us on here appreciate his posts.

 

[rutgers48]

Guy is always wrong. Why don't you try a new hobby like knitting or something?

Last i checked he's not a meteorologist and he pulls his data from actual meteorologists...so...i suppose the actual meteorlogists got it wrong too (if you even want to call it "wrong")? Did you call their employers to complain about them? So weird to me that people like you get so fired up about a guy posting about weather. Who cares? The guy enjoys it, most people find his posts useful and meteorology in general os a guessing game. Give it a rest.

 

[jonS]

I live 25 miles north of Boston near the New Hampshire border. We're getting up to 15 inches with blizzard -like conditions.

 

[RUfromNJ]

Been done for a few hours here in Morristown. VERY windy now.

 

[JERZEE73]

don't like it, don't read it. Many of us on here appreciate his posts.

Agree totally. People know the routine by now. If you don't APPRECIATE what they bring, then go elsewhere!

 

[Knight Shift]

Final was 6-6.5" measured in 3 different places.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

5-7" on non-drift side of street. Sun is out and wind almost non-existent. Car is cleared and made room to get the f out.

 

[DJ Spanky]

9-10" here. When we finally got out to clean up the front (which has a southern exposure) it was compacted down already to 8.5" with about an inch of frozen slush at the bottom.

 

[bac2therac]

and here are the real amounts for your locations...ta da

NEW JERSEY

...ATLANTIC COUNTY...
HAMMONTON 2.1 1135 AM 2/09 CO-OP OBSERVER
ESTELL MANOR 1.1 1115 AM 2/09 CO-OP OBSERVER
GALLOWAY TWP 0.8 1053 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

...BURLINGTON COUNTY...
1 SE MOORESTOWN TWP 5.0 1154 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
FLORENCE 4.0 1128 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
MOUNT LAUREL 3.7 1107 AM 2/09 RETIRED MET
BURLINGTON 3.5 1100 AM 2/09 NWS EMPLOYEE
1 W MEDFORD LAKES 3.3 1100 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
MARLTON 3.0 100 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
SOUTHAMPTON TWP 3.0 136 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
MOORESTOWN 3.0 1156 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
MOUNT HOLLY WFO 2.8 100 PM 2/09 NWS OFFICE
TABERNACLE 1.5 1122 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
5 WNW TABERNACLE TWP 1.0 845 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 SSE MEDFORD TWP 1.0 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...CAMDEN COUNTY...
CHERRY HILL 3.8 103 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
SOMERDALE 2.5 125 PM 2/09 CO-OP OBSERVER
BARRINGTON 2.3 104 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
OAKLYN 2.0 910 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BELLMAWR 2.0 128 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
NNE MOUNT EPHRAIM 2.0 1055 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
LINDENWOLD 1.9 1053 AM 2/09 RETIRED MET
TANSBORO 1.0 104 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
VOORHEES 1.0 1124 AM 2/09 METEOROLOGIST
1 WNW BERLIN TWP 1.0 200 PM 2/09 COCORAHS
BLACKWOOD 0.8 103 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO

...CAPE MAY COUNTY...
DENNISVILLE 1.3 1104 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

...CUMBERLAND COUNTY...
VINELAND 1.0 1030 AM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
UPPER DEERFIELD TWP 0.5 1030 AM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO

...GLOUCESTER COUNTY...
SEWELL 2.5 102 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
NATIONAL PARK 2.3 939 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WILLIAMSTOWN 2.0 1129 AM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
3 NNW MONROE TWP 0.9 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...HUNTERDON COUNTY...
RINGOES 7.0 1007 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
4 N CLINTON TWP 6.7 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 S BETHLEHEM TWP 6.5 1000 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 NNW CLINTON 6.1 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
WHITEHOUSE STATION 6.0 1027 AM 2/09 METEOROLOGIST
WHITEHOUSE 6.0 1048 AM 2/09 METEOROLOGIST
READINGTON TWP 5.1 1130 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NW CALIFON 5.0 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
LEBANON 5.0 1100 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
SE LEBANON 5.0 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
4 NE RINGOES 5.0 122 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
2 E FLEMINGTON 4.1 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
READINGTON 4.0 856 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
5 NE FLEMINGTON 4.0 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
TEWKSBURY TWP 3.5 814 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 SE READINGTON TWP 3.4 815 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...MERCER COUNTY...
NORTH PRINCETON 5.9 1140 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
1 NW LAWRENCEVILLE 5.0 1211 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
TITUSVILLE 4.8 1023 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
HOPEWELL TWP 4.5 1129 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LAWRENCE TWP 4.5 1130 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
PENNINGTON 4.3 1057 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
EAST WINDSOR TWP 4.0 1136 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HAMILTON TWP 4.0 1135 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
EWING TWP 4.0 1157 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
TRENTON 4.0 1033 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
EWING 3.7 1130 AM 2/09 METEOROLOGIST
3 NNW WEST WINDSOR T 3.6 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 ENE PENNINGTON 3.0 815 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 SSW LAWRENCE TWP 1.5 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...MIDDLESEX COUNTY...
FRANKLIN PARK 7.0 1200 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
PORT READING 6.0 945 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
SPOTSWOOD 5.5 213 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
SOUTH PLAINFIELD 5.5 202 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
CHEESEQUAKE 5.4 153 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
NEW BRUNSWICK 5.0 1245 PM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
METUCHEN 5.0 1141 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
OLD BRIDGE 4.5 300 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
EAST BRUNSWICK 4.5 1016 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
MADISON PARK 3.5 1017 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 NW SOUTH BRUNSWICK 3.5 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
EDISON 3.5 913 AM 2/09 NEWSPAPER
2 E NEW BRUNSWICK 2.5 830 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...MONMOUTH COUNTY...
FREEHOLD 6.2 215 PM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
MANALAPAN 5.8 315 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 NE PERRINEVILLE 5.0 415 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
KEYPORT 4.5 1225 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
SHREWSBURY 4.5 343 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
ABERDEEN TWP 4.0 1017 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
FREEHOLD TWP 4.0 214 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
NEPTUNE TWP 3.5 213 PM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
1 SE OCEAN TWP 3.0 930 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
COLTS NECK 3.0 1225 PM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
WEST FREEHOLD 3.0 1105 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HOWELL TWP 2.7 315 PM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 S UPPER FREEHOLD T 1.9 830 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...MORRIS COUNTY...
GREEN POND 9.0 348 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BUTLER 9.0 1227 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
KINNELON 8.0 159 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
JEFFERSON TWP 8.0 1036 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
MARCELLA 8.0 1155 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 ENE CHESTER TWP 7.5 1130 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 ENE MINE HILL TWP 7.5 830 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 NE HANOVER TWP 7.2 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 NE ROCKAWAY TWP 7.0 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
MORRISTOWN 7.0 201 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 W RANDOLPH TWP 6.6 839 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
NE MINE HILL TWP 6.5 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 E RANDOLPH TWP 6.5 1140 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
MORRIS PLAINS 6.4 115 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
CHATHAM BOROUGH 6.0 110 PM 2/09 EMERGENCY MNGR
WHITE MEADOW LAKE 6.0 1104 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 WSW LONG HILL TWP 5.5 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 W MENDHAM 5.5 845 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
ROCKAWAY 5.0 1018 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 W WASHINGTON TWP 5.0 100 PM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 ESE ROXBURY TWP 4.5 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
NNW ROCKAWAY 4.2 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
CHATHAM 4.0 1138 AM 2/09 EMERGENCY MNGR
BOONTON 4.0 800 AM 2/09 CO-OP OBSERVER
MOUNTAIN LAKES 3.5 830 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA

...OCEAN COUNTY...
JACKSON TWP 3.8 400 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
LAKEWOOD 3.5 1227 PM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
BRICK TWP 3.2 1143 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
TOMS RIVER 2.0 1050 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
WHITING 2.0 1059 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BAYVILLE 1.4 400 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
BERKELEY TWP 1.3 1100 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
BEACHWOOD 1.2 400 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
2 NNE BRICK TWP 0.5 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
BARNEGAT 0.5 1023 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA

...SALEM COUNTY...
1 ENE SALEM 0.6 850 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...SOMERSET COUNTY...
BASKING RIDGE 8.0 1140 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
3 ESE BEDMINSTER TWP 6.8 1000 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
WARREN TWP 6.2 341 PM 2/09 METEOROLOGIST
5 NNW FRANKLIN TWP 6.1 1230 PM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 NNE PEAPACK-GLADST 6.0 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 NNW BERNARDS TWP 5.4 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
SOMERSET 5.3 1018 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
SOMERVILLE 5.1 138 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BELLE MEAD 5.0 1130 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 ENE READINGTON 4.0 901 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
4 SE HILLSBOROUGH TW 3.8 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
6 SW FRANKLIN TWP 3.3 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
4 ENE FRANKLIN TWP 2.8 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
3 NE MONTGOMERY TWP 0.7 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...SUSSEX COUNTY...
HIGHLAND LAKES 11.1 1155 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WANTAGE 10.3 1121 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
VERNON 10.0 949 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 WNW LAKE MOHAWK 10.0 1030 AM 2/09 NWS EMPLOYEE
LAFAYETTE 10.0 1045 AM 2/09 0.81 W.E.
SWARTSWOOD 9.5 1135 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
NEWTON 9.0 1153 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
STOCKHOLM 9.0 1255 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SW HARDYSTON TWP 8.9 1200 PM 2/09 COCORAHS
SUSSEX 7.8 805 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
3 SE HARDYSTON TWP 6.4 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...WARREN COUNTY...
BLAIRSTOWN 8.8 1259 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
ALLAMUCHY 8.8 1029 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HACKETTSTOWN 8.5 1120 AM 2/09 DEOS
JOHNSONBURG 8.0 1030 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
BROADWAY 7.0 1129 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
OXFORD 6.5 840 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
STEWARTSVILLE 6.4 946 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

PENNSYLVANIA

...BERKS COUNTY...
5 SW ALBURTIS 4.9 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 E OLEY 3.5 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
3 SSW MOHNTON 3.3 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
SINKING SPRING 3.1 939 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
SPRING TWP 3.0 1035 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
5 WSW READING 2.8 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...BUCKS COUNTY...
BEDMINSTER 5.0 948 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
PERKASIE 5.0 129 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
FURLONG 4.9 1119 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LOWER MAKEFIELD TWP 4.6 1019 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
SELLERSVILLE 4.5 752 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WEST ROCKHILL TWP 4.5 1002 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BENSALEM 4.0 1000 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
DOYLESTOWN 4.0 1006 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
MORRISVILLE 3.4 1109 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

...CARBON COUNTY...
6 ENE PALMERTON 6.0 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
ALBRIGHTSVILLE 5.0 1122 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LOWER TOWAMENSING TW 5.0 808 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NNE JIM THORPE 4.8 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...CHESTER COUNTY...
VALLEY FORGE 4.5 905 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
CHESTERBROOK 4.5 939 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
DEVAULT 4.3 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS
EAST NANTMEAL 4.3 1124 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
EXTON 3.6 949 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WARWICK 3.4 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS
PHOENIXVILLE 3.0 956 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
EAST COVENTRY TWP 3.0 815 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WEST CHESTER 3.0 1200 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LANDENBERG 3.0 804 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 WNW BERWYN 3.0 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
WEST CALN TWP 3.0 951 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
MARSHALLTON 2.7 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS
2 SSE WEST CHESTER 2.6 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
CHESTER SPRINGS 2.5 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS
2 NE UNIONVILLE 2.1 830 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
NOTTINGHAM 1.5 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS
GLENMOORE 1.5 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS
NEW LONDON 1.4 750 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
NW WICKERTON 1.0 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
ATGLEN 0.9 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS

...DELAWARE COUNTY...
MEDIA 4.5 1154 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
WAYNE 4.0 938 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
UPPER DARBY 4.0 1109 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
CHADDS FORD 3.5 915 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LANSDOWNE 2.6 944 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
GARNET VALLEY 2.3 128 PM 2/09 COCORAHS

...LEHIGH COUNTY...
SALISBURY TWP 7.8 1033 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LEHIGH VALLEY INTL A 7.1 100 PM 2/09 0.63 W.E.
CENTER VALLEY 7.0 853 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
ALLENTOWN 6.5 915 AM 2/09 SOUTH SIDE
2 ENE SCHNECKSVILLE 6.0 752 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
ZIONSVILLE 5.5 1231 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
NEW TRIPOLI 5.0 852 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HEIDELBERG TWP 4.9 1139 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
6 WSW SLATINGTON 4.9 1030 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...MONROE COUNTY...
MOUNT POCONO 9.0 1143 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BARTONSVILLE 8.2 1135 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
STROUDSBURG 7.5 1113 AM 2/09 PENNDOT
3 ENE SAYLORSBURG 7.5 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
ANALOMINK 7.0 1115 AM 2/09 PENNDOT
TOBYHANNA 7.0 1114 AM 2/09 PENNDOT
BLAKESLEE 6.5 1130 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LONG POND 6.0 1114 AM 2/09 PENNDOT

...MONTGOMERY COUNTY...
MAPLE GLEN 4.5 948 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
HATFIELD 4.5 1058 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
THREE TUNS 4.0 343 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LOWER MORELAND TWP 4.0 1100 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HUNTINGDON VALLEY 4.0 1050 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
GRATERFORD 3.6 938 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 SW LANSDALE 3.5 845 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
COLLEGEVILLE 3.5 941 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
SPRING MOUNT 3.4 1131 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 WSW SCHWENKSVILLE 3.4 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
EAGLEVILLE 3.3 907 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
GILBERTSVILLE 3.3 1002 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
ROYERSFORD 3.0 943 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 W AMBLER 3.0 858 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WYNWOOD ESTATES 3.0 935 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WYNNEWOOD 3.0 1203 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NW FORT WASHINGTON 3.0 830 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 W LIMERICK 2.5 820 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
LIMERICK 2.5 820 AM 2/09 0.51 W.E.

...NORTHAMPTON COUNTY...
2 SSE TATAMY 7.0 1200 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
EASTON 7.0 950 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BANGOR 7.0 1034 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BUSHKILL TWP 6.1 925 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
MARTINS CREEK 6.0 1030 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
ACKERMANVILLE 6.0 957 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HELLERTOWN 5.5 141 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
4 S ACKERMANVILLE 5.0 809 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

...PHILADELPHIA COUNTY...
PHILADELPHIA FIRE 54 2.8 1009 AM 2/09 FIRE DEPT/RESCUE
PHILADELPHIA 2.2 205 PM 2/09 EMERGENCY MNGR
PHILADELPHIA FIRE 73 1.5 1118 AM 2/09 FIRE DEPT/RESCUE
PHILADELPHIA INTL AI 0.8 100 PM 2/09 ASOS

 

[fatsam98]

8" in midland park (bergen cty). Although my wife says i'm exaggerating

 

[RU848789]

appears to be winding down in the Clifton/Montclair area.... average
forecast was for 11 inches, looking out the window, it looks like maybe
4 inches.... it is supposed to stop in the next 60 to 90 minutes, and it is
very light snow now.

Extremely unlikely you only got 4" in Montclair. Everyone near you reported 7-9" (as per below and what I've seen on AmericanWx), including Newark with 7.7". Not far off the 8-12" predicted for the NE NJ counties by the NWS (and most media). Not a bust IMO, whereas parts of Central/South Jersey and eastern PA (NWS - Philly office) had minor to moderate busts, as many have noted.

...ESSEX COUNTY...
WEST ORANGE 8.2 1245 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
CEDAR GROVE 8.0 115 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
NORTH CALDWELL 7.5 1237 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SSE CALDWELL 7.2 1257 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

 

[retired711]

I notice that Bac's summary said 3.8 inches in Cherry Hill, and that the report was from amateur radio. I don't know how good such an estimate is (I'd prefer an estimate from a trained spotter), but I notice that neighboring Voorhees got only an inch, and that 3.8 would be the highest in Camden County. I'd guess it was less.

 

[RU848789]

Last i checked he's not a meteorologist and he pulls his data from actual meteorologists...so...i suppose the actual meteorlogists got it wrong too (if you even want to call it "wrong")? Did you call their employers to complain about them? So weird to me that people like you get so fired up about a guy posting about weather. Who cares? The guy enjoys it, most people find his posts useful and meteorology in general os a guessing game. Give it a rest.

Thanks, well said. Yes, the actual meteorologists in the NWS-Philly busted in a minor to moderate fashion for much of their area, except for north of 78 and far SE NJ/DE. It happens. I'm sure they're not happy about it, although it was still a pretty impactful event for the morning commute almost everywhere. As you noted and I've said countless times, I mostly rely on the NWS, as over the long haul, I think they're the best, but they're going to miss some (everyone else did, too, in Central/South Jersey/SE PA), which means the info and "forecasts" I bring here are going to miss too. It happens and will continue to happen. Honestly, I'm just happy when I can analyze the model output/trends and "predict" what the NWS is going to do in their next update (as I did a couple of times in this thread and for other storms) or anticipate a storm outcome a bit in advance (which I think bac and I both did today, as it was looking like it was underperforming).

Also, as I've said before, the question of "why are they wrong sometimes?" is the wrong question. IMO, the right question is, given the incredibly complex and chaotic nature of the weather, how the hell do they ever get it right? Forecasts 5 days out are as accurate as they were 3 days out 25 years ago and far more accurate than forecasts 30+ years ago, when snowstorms often just happened without much warning or forecasted snowstorms regularly busted. And the science continues to improve, but will never be 100% accurate, even one day out, for snowstorms. Simply too much energy in the atmosphere and too much unpredictability (chaos) and not nearly enough good data inputs in 3-D space.

Edit: one more point - the NWS in NYC nailed this storm, with general 8-12" forecasts for NE NJ (Bergen/Passaic/Hudson/Union/Essex), NYC, the Hudson Valley, most of CT and LI (with >12" forecast for parts of LI/CT). Admittedly, though, their forecast was easier, as there was less model disagreement on precip amounts there, since they were closer to where the storm was predicted to intensify, whereas for much of NJ, there was some model disagreement last night, which was discussed here and the drier models ended up being correct and less snow fell for most vs. forecast. Hard to know which models are going to be right and if I were them, I also would've gone with the Euro/UK, which were showing more precip/snow, as those are the two best models, on average. But they were wrong this time. Sucks to be a meteorologist sometimes.

 

[RUbacker]

Last i checked he's not a meteorologist and he pulls his data from actual meteorologists...so...i suppose the actual meteorlogists got it wrong too (if you even want to call it "wrong")? Did you call their employers to complain about them? So weird to me that people like you get so fired up about a guy posting about weather. Who cares? The guy enjoys it, most people find his posts useful and meteorology in general os a guessing game. Give it a rest.

Why is anyone paying attention to what he says ???

 

[RU848789]

I notice that Bac's summary said 3.8 inches in Cherry Hill, and that the report was from amateur radio. I don't know how good such an estimate is (I'd prefer an estimate from a trained spotter), but I notice that neighboring Voorhees got only an inch, and that 3.8 would be the highest in Camden County. I'd guess it was less.

Agreed, although I grew up in SJ and saw a few reports of 3" or so in Cherry Hill, plus there were reports of 3-4" in nearby parts of Burlington County and even 5" in Moorestown, which isn't far away, so 3.8" could be accurate. In my hometown of Washington Twp, I saw 2-3" generally reported. The other thing to keep in mind is that any report before about 9 am in South Jersey and 11 am in Central Jersey is likely not a final observation, as the snow hadn't stopped yet.

 

[bac2therac]

snow was over in my neck of the woods by 11AM so draw a vertical line from the top of NJ to the bottom and everything west of that line was done, which included Cherry Hill

also note the Metuchen official spotter was 1.5 less than #s at 11:41...did you get 1.5 inches in that weenie pivot

 

[RU848789]

snow was over in my neck of the woods by 11AM so draw a vertical line from the top of NJ to the bottom and everything west of that line was done, which included Cherry Hill

also note the Metuchen official spotter was 1.5 less than #s at 11:41...did you get 1.5 inches in that weenie pivot

See my post on this on AmericanWx. I'm also curious. This is the same spotter that erroneously measured 27.7" in last year's blizzard, while I measured 22" and nobody else within 10 miles of Metuchen was over 24". I had to drive a half mile in the snow to a local football field to find a decent undisturbed area (was quite windy with lots of drifting) and walked out 50 yards into that field to get a good measurement.

I know how careful I am with measurements and I'd guess it's a combo of snow not being done (I got maybe 1/2-3/4" after about 11:30 am) and real variability in our locations or in our measurements. I typically measure in 10+ spots and take the average, when it's windy, as it was, since snowboards are useless when it's windy. I know most others don't do that.

Another guy in Metuchen reported 5.5" about 2 miles west of me (which should be a little less snow) and people on the board in P'way/Edison reported 6.5" also.

 

[wheezer]

Extremely unlikely you only got 4" in Montclair. Everyone near you reported 7-9" (as per below and what I've seen on AmericanWx), including Newark with 7.7". Not far off the 8-12" predicted for the NE NJ counties by the NWS (and most media). Not a bust IMO, whereas parts of Central/South Jersey and eastern PA (NWS - Philly office) had minor to moderate busts, as many have noted

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Well, I was out there snowblowing and I can assure you that on my sidewalk and driveway
it was no more than 4 inches.... out on the back deck, and in some snow drifted areas, on a parked car it WAS deeper, could have been seven inches or so
i
.... the wife went out and shoveled the front walkway, and the snow
was probably less than 4 inches, or she would have wanted my help, as she usually does
when it is deep.....

it doesn't really matter, it just made my job a lot easier than when we have a deeper snow

 

[SirPerceval]

Agreed, although I grew up in SJ and saw a few reports of 3" or so in Cherry Hill, plus there were reports of 3-4" in nearby parts of Burlington County and even 5" in Moorestown, which isn't far away, so 3.8" could be accurate. In my hometown of Washington Twp, I saw 2-3" generally reported. The other thing to keep in mind is that any report before about 9 am in South Jersey and 11 am in Central Jersey is likely not a final observation, as the snow hadn't stopped yet.

have no idea where the 5" in Moorestown report came from but we barely got 2".

 

[koleszar]

and here are the real amounts for your locations...ta da

NEW JERSEY

...ATLANTIC COUNTY...
HAMMONTON 2.1 1135 AM 2/09 CO-OP OBSERVER
ESTELL MANOR 1.1 1115 AM 2/09 CO-OP OBSERVER
GALLOWAY TWP 0.8 1053 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

...BURLINGTON COUNTY...
1 SE MOORESTOWN TWP 5.0 1154 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
FLORENCE 4.0 1128 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
MOUNT LAUREL 3.7 1107 AM 2/09 RETIRED MET
BURLINGTON 3.5 1100 AM 2/09 NWS EMPLOYEE
1 W MEDFORD LAKES 3.3 1100 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
MARLTON 3.0 100 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
SOUTHAMPTON TWP 3.0 136 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
MOORESTOWN 3.0 1156 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
MOUNT HOLLY WFO 2.8 100 PM 2/09 NWS OFFICE
TABERNACLE 1.5 1122 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
5 WNW TABERNACLE TWP 1.0 845 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 SSE MEDFORD TWP 1.0 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...CAMDEN COUNTY...
CHERRY HILL 3.8 103 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
SOMERDALE 2.5 125 PM 2/09 CO-OP OBSERVER
BARRINGTON 2.3 104 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
OAKLYN 2.0 910 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BELLMAWR 2.0 128 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
NNE MOUNT EPHRAIM 2.0 1055 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
LINDENWOLD 1.9 1053 AM 2/09 RETIRED MET
TANSBORO 1.0 104 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
VOORHEES 1.0 1124 AM 2/09 METEOROLOGIST
1 WNW BERLIN TWP 1.0 200 PM 2/09 COCORAHS
BLACKWOOD 0.8 103 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO

...CAPE MAY COUNTY...
DENNISVILLE 1.3 1104 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

...CUMBERLAND COUNTY...
VINELAND 1.0 1030 AM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
UPPER DEERFIELD TWP 0.5 1030 AM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO

...GLOUCESTER COUNTY...
SEWELL 2.5 102 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
NATIONAL PARK 2.3 939 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WILLIAMSTOWN 2.0 1129 AM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
3 NNW MONROE TWP 0.9 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...HUNTERDON COUNTY...
RINGOES 7.0 1007 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
4 N CLINTON TWP 6.7 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 S BETHLEHEM TWP 6.5 1000 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 NNW CLINTON 6.1 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
WHITEHOUSE STATION 6.0 1027 AM 2/09 METEOROLOGIST
WHITEHOUSE 6.0 1048 AM 2/09 METEOROLOGIST
READINGTON TWP 5.1 1130 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NW CALIFON 5.0 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
LEBANON 5.0 1100 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
SE LEBANON 5.0 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
4 NE RINGOES 5.0 122 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
2 E FLEMINGTON 4.1 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
READINGTON 4.0 856 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
5 NE FLEMINGTON 4.0 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
TEWKSBURY TWP 3.5 814 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 SE READINGTON TWP 3.4 815 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...MERCER COUNTY...
NORTH PRINCETON 5.9 1140 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
1 NW LAWRENCEVILLE 5.0 1211 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
TITUSVILLE 4.8 1023 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
HOPEWELL TWP 4.5 1129 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LAWRENCE TWP 4.5 1130 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
PENNINGTON 4.3 1057 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
EAST WINDSOR TWP 4.0 1136 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HAMILTON TWP 4.0 1135 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
EWING TWP 4.0 1157 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
TRENTON 4.0 1033 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
EWING 3.7 1130 AM 2/09 METEOROLOGIST
3 NNW WEST WINDSOR T 3.6 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 ENE PENNINGTON 3.0 815 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 SSW LAWRENCE TWP 1.5 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...MIDDLESEX COUNTY...
FRANKLIN PARK 7.0 1200 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
PORT READING 6.0 945 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
SPOTSWOOD 5.5 213 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
SOUTH PLAINFIELD 5.5 202 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
CHEESEQUAKE 5.4 153 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
NEW BRUNSWICK 5.0 1245 PM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
METUCHEN 5.0 1141 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
OLD BRIDGE 4.5 300 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
EAST BRUNSWICK 4.5 1016 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
MADISON PARK 3.5 1017 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 NW SOUTH BRUNSWICK 3.5 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
EDISON 3.5 913 AM 2/09 NEWSPAPER
2 E NEW BRUNSWICK 2.5 830 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...MONMOUTH COUNTY...
FREEHOLD 6.2 215 PM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
MANALAPAN 5.8 315 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 NE PERRINEVILLE 5.0 415 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
KEYPORT 4.5 1225 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
SHREWSBURY 4.5 343 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
ABERDEEN TWP 4.0 1017 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
FREEHOLD TWP 4.0 214 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
NEPTUNE TWP 3.5 213 PM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
1 SE OCEAN TWP 3.0 930 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
COLTS NECK 3.0 1225 PM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
WEST FREEHOLD 3.0 1105 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HOWELL TWP 2.7 315 PM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 S UPPER FREEHOLD T 1.9 830 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...MORRIS COUNTY...
GREEN POND 9.0 348 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BUTLER 9.0 1227 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
KINNELON 8.0 159 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
JEFFERSON TWP 8.0 1036 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
MARCELLA 8.0 1155 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 ENE CHESTER TWP 7.5 1130 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 ENE MINE HILL TWP 7.5 830 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 NE HANOVER TWP 7.2 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 NE ROCKAWAY TWP 7.0 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
MORRISTOWN 7.0 201 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 W RANDOLPH TWP 6.6 839 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
NE MINE HILL TWP 6.5 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 E RANDOLPH TWP 6.5 1140 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
MORRIS PLAINS 6.4 115 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
CHATHAM BOROUGH 6.0 110 PM 2/09 EMERGENCY MNGR
WHITE MEADOW LAKE 6.0 1104 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 WSW LONG HILL TWP 5.5 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 W MENDHAM 5.5 845 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
ROCKAWAY 5.0 1018 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 W WASHINGTON TWP 5.0 100 PM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 ESE ROXBURY TWP 4.5 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
NNW ROCKAWAY 4.2 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
CHATHAM 4.0 1138 AM 2/09 EMERGENCY MNGR
BOONTON 4.0 800 AM 2/09 CO-OP OBSERVER
MOUNTAIN LAKES 3.5 830 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA

...OCEAN COUNTY...
JACKSON TWP 3.8 400 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
LAKEWOOD 3.5 1227 PM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
BRICK TWP 3.2 1143 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
TOMS RIVER 2.0 1050 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
WHITING 2.0 1059 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BAYVILLE 1.4 400 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
BERKELEY TWP 1.3 1100 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
BEACHWOOD 1.2 400 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
2 NNE BRICK TWP 0.5 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
BARNEGAT 0.5 1023 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA

...SALEM COUNTY...
1 ENE SALEM 0.6 850 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...SOMERSET COUNTY...
BASKING RIDGE 8.0 1140 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
3 ESE BEDMINSTER TWP 6.8 1000 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
WARREN TWP 6.2 341 PM 2/09 METEOROLOGIST
5 NNW FRANKLIN TWP 6.1 1230 PM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 NNE PEAPACK-GLADST 6.0 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 NNW BERNARDS TWP 5.4 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
SOMERSET 5.3 1018 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
SOMERVILLE 5.1 138 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BELLE MEAD 5.0 1130 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 ENE READINGTON 4.0 901 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
4 SE HILLSBOROUGH TW 3.8 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
6 SW FRANKLIN TWP 3.3 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
4 ENE FRANKLIN TWP 2.8 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
3 NE MONTGOMERY TWP 0.7 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...SUSSEX COUNTY...
HIGHLAND LAKES 11.1 1155 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WANTAGE 10.3 1121 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
VERNON 10.0 949 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 WNW LAKE MOHAWK 10.0 1030 AM 2/09 NWS EMPLOYEE
LAFAYETTE 10.0 1045 AM 2/09 0.81 W.E.
SWARTSWOOD 9.5 1135 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
NEWTON 9.0 1153 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
STOCKHOLM 9.0 1255 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SW HARDYSTON TWP 8.9 1200 PM 2/09 COCORAHS
SUSSEX 7.8 805 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
3 SE HARDYSTON TWP 6.4 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...WARREN COUNTY...
BLAIRSTOWN 8.8 1259 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
ALLAMUCHY 8.8 1029 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HACKETTSTOWN 8.5 1120 AM 2/09 DEOS
JOHNSONBURG 8.0 1030 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
BROADWAY 7.0 1129 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
OXFORD 6.5 840 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
STEWARTSVILLE 6.4 946 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

PENNSYLVANIA

...BERKS COUNTY...
5 SW ALBURTIS 4.9 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
2 E OLEY 3.5 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
3 SSW MOHNTON 3.3 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
SINKING SPRING 3.1 939 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
SPRING TWP 3.0 1035 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
5 WSW READING 2.8 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...BUCKS COUNTY...
BEDMINSTER 5.0 948 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
PERKASIE 5.0 129 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
FURLONG 4.9 1119 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LOWER MAKEFIELD TWP 4.6 1019 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
SELLERSVILLE 4.5 752 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WEST ROCKHILL TWP 4.5 1002 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BENSALEM 4.0 1000 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
DOYLESTOWN 4.0 1006 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
MORRISVILLE 3.4 1109 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

...CARBON COUNTY...
6 ENE PALMERTON 6.0 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
ALBRIGHTSVILLE 5.0 1122 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LOWER TOWAMENSING TW 5.0 808 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NNE JIM THORPE 4.8 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...CHESTER COUNTY...
VALLEY FORGE 4.5 905 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
CHESTERBROOK 4.5 939 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
DEVAULT 4.3 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS
EAST NANTMEAL 4.3 1124 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
EXTON 3.6 949 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WARWICK 3.4 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS
PHOENIXVILLE 3.0 956 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
EAST COVENTRY TWP 3.0 815 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WEST CHESTER 3.0 1200 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LANDENBERG 3.0 804 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 WNW BERWYN 3.0 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
WEST CALN TWP 3.0 951 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
MARSHALLTON 2.7 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS
2 SSE WEST CHESTER 2.6 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
CHESTER SPRINGS 2.5 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS
2 NE UNIONVILLE 2.1 830 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
NOTTINGHAM 1.5 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS
GLENMOORE 1.5 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS
NEW LONDON 1.4 750 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
NW WICKERTON 1.0 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
ATGLEN 0.9 1000 AM 2/09 DEOS

...DELAWARE COUNTY...
MEDIA 4.5 1154 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
WAYNE 4.0 938 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
UPPER DARBY 4.0 1109 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
CHADDS FORD 3.5 915 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LANSDOWNE 2.6 944 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
GARNET VALLEY 2.3 128 PM 2/09 COCORAHS

...LEHIGH COUNTY...
SALISBURY TWP 7.8 1033 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LEHIGH VALLEY INTL A 7.1 100 PM 2/09 0.63 W.E.
CENTER VALLEY 7.0 853 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
ALLENTOWN 6.5 915 AM 2/09 SOUTH SIDE
2 ENE SCHNECKSVILLE 6.0 752 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
ZIONSVILLE 5.5 1231 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
NEW TRIPOLI 5.0 852 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HEIDELBERG TWP 4.9 1139 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
6 WSW SLATINGTON 4.9 1030 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

...MONROE COUNTY...
MOUNT POCONO 9.0 1143 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BARTONSVILLE 8.2 1135 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
STROUDSBURG 7.5 1113 AM 2/09 PENNDOT
3 ENE SAYLORSBURG 7.5 900 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
ANALOMINK 7.0 1115 AM 2/09 PENNDOT
TOBYHANNA 7.0 1114 AM 2/09 PENNDOT
BLAKESLEE 6.5 1130 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LONG POND 6.0 1114 AM 2/09 PENNDOT

...MONTGOMERY COUNTY...
MAPLE GLEN 4.5 948 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
HATFIELD 4.5 1058 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
THREE TUNS 4.0 343 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
LOWER MORELAND TWP 4.0 1100 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HUNTINGDON VALLEY 4.0 1050 AM 2/09 SOCIAL MEDIA
GRATERFORD 3.6 938 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 SW LANSDALE 3.5 845 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
COLLEGEVILLE 3.5 941 AM 2/09 PUBLIC
SPRING MOUNT 3.4 1131 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 WSW SCHWENKSVILLE 3.4 800 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
EAGLEVILLE 3.3 907 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
GILBERTSVILLE 3.3 1002 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
ROYERSFORD 3.0 943 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 W AMBLER 3.0 858 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WYNWOOD ESTATES 3.0 935 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WYNNEWOOD 3.0 1203 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NW FORT WASHINGTON 3.0 830 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
1 W LIMERICK 2.5 820 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
LIMERICK 2.5 820 AM 2/09 0.51 W.E.

...NORTHAMPTON COUNTY...
2 SSE TATAMY 7.0 1200 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
EASTON 7.0 950 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BANGOR 7.0 1034 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BUSHKILL TWP 6.1 925 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
MARTINS CREEK 6.0 1030 AM 2/09 COCORAHS
ACKERMANVILLE 6.0 957 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HELLERTOWN 5.5 141 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
4 S ACKERMANVILLE 5.0 809 AM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

...PHILADELPHIA COUNTY...
PHILADELPHIA FIRE 54 2.8 1009 AM 2/09 FIRE DEPT/RESCUE
PHILADELPHIA 2.2 205 PM 2/09 EMERGENCY MNGR
PHILADELPHIA FIRE 73 1.5 1118 AM 2/09 FIRE DEPT/RESCUE
PHILADELPHIA INTL AI 0.8 100 PM 2/09 ASOS

Ok so what does COCORAHS stand for?

 

[bac2therac]

have no idea where the 5" in Moorestown report came from but we barely got 2".

the official report was 3 inches from a trained spotter so I have no idea where #s is coming up with that 5 inch amount for Moorestown

 

[bac2therac]

Ok so what does COCORAHS stand for?

http://www.weather.gov/rah/cocorahs

 

[RU848789]

Extremely unlikely you only got 4" in Montclair. Everyone near you reported 7-9" (as per below and what I've seen on AmericanWx), including Newark with 7.7". Not far off the 8-12" predicted for the NE NJ counties by the NWS (and most media). Not a bust IMO, whereas parts of Central/South Jersey and eastern PA (NWS - Philly office) had minor to moderate busts, as many have noted

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Well, I was out there snowblowing and I can assure you that on my sidewalk and driveway
it was no more than 4 inches.... out on the back deck, and in some snow drifted areas, on a parked car it WAS deeper, could have been seven inches or so
i
.... the wife went out and shoveled the front walkway, and the snow
was probably less than 4 inches, or she would have wanted my help, as she usually does
when it is deep.....

it doesn't really matter, it just made my job a lot easier than when we have a deeper snow

Hopefully, you can understand why I made my original point, when you said you were estimating 4" from your window. Having seen more details, let me propose the following (I know you might not care, but I have fun with this stuff).

If you were out a bit after the snow had stopped, there's always compaction (it was 6.5" at my house at the end of the snowfall and 5.5" about 40 minutes later).

If you were measuring on a paved surface, it would likely be lower than what's on a colder surface like grass, since it was warm yesterday and it took longer for the snow to accumulate on paved surfaces. I measured about 4.5" on my driveway vs. 6.5" on my grass).

If your driveway is exposed, some of the snow could've blown off it, which is why I measured in about 10 spots in my mostly quiescent backyard, which is less prone to that.

All of that combined could've made 7-8" look like 4-5". For you to truly have had 4" would be a meteorological mystery for the ages.

By the way, a professional meteorologist on AmericanWx reported 8.2" in Montclair.

 

[DJ Spanky]

Got official measurements for Passaic County?

 

[RU848789]

the official report was 3 inches from a trained spotter so I have no idea where #s is coming up with that 5 inch amount for Moorestown

It's in what you cut/pasted from the NWS (1 SE Moorestown means 1 mile SE of Moorestown). I can't vouch for the accuracy of the 5" measurement vs. the 3" reported from Moorestown (which I didn't notice when I posted); I just noted it. And "trained spotter" is no guarantee of accuracy.

..BURLINGTON COUNTY...
1 SE MOORESTOWN TWP 5.0 1154 AM 2/09 COCORAHS

 

[FanuSanu52]

don't like it, don't read it. Many of us on here appreciate his posts.

Or maybe selling microbrews?

Or caring for a Great Dane?

 

[RU848789]

Spanky et al - here's the NWS-NYC reports for NJ and nearby NY. If you notice, they've done the work of editing out all the reports before about noon, knowing they're incomplete. Wish the NWS-Philly would do the same.

NEW JERSEY

...BERGEN COUNTY...
FRANKLIN LAKES 9.0 1234 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HARRINGTON PARK 8.9 100 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
OAKLAND 8.0 100 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
RIDGEWOOD 7.9 100 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HASBROUCK HEIGHTS 7.6 100 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
RAMSEY 7.5 100 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
SADDLE BROOK 7.0 100 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
ALLENDALE 7.0 100 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP 7.0 100 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

...ESSEX COUNTY...
WEST ORANGE 8.2 1245 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
CEDAR GROVE 8.0 115 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
NORTH CALDWELL 7.5 1237 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SSE CALDWELL 7.2 1257 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

...PASSAIC COUNTY...
WEST MILFORD 10.0 326 PM 2/09 1100 FT ELEVATION

...UNION COUNTY...
NEWARK AIRPORT 7.7 100 PM 2/09 FAA OBSERVER

NEW YORK

...KINGS COUNTY...
CLINTON HILL 8.5 310 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
MARCUS GARVEY VILLAG 6.4 145 PM 2/09 COCORAHS
FORT HAMILTON 6.4 200 PM 2/09 COCORAHS

...NASSAU COUNTY...
PLAINVIEW 13.0 300 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WOODBURY 12.0 145 PM 2/09 BROADCAST MEDIA
MANHASSET 10.2 130 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
NEW HYDE PARK 9.3 125 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
GLEN HEAD 9.0 230 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
MINEOLA 8.7 130 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
HICKSVILLE 7.7 1237 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
FREEPORT 7.4 115 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
BALDWIN 7.0 1255 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

...NEW YORK COUNTY...
CENTRAL PARK 9.0 100 PM 2/09 PARK CONSERVANCY

...ORANGE COUNTY...
HIGHLAND MILLS 13.5 200 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
VAILS GATE 13.0 315 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
ROCK TAVERN 12.5 245 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
NEW WINDSOR 12.0 130 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
GARDNERTOWN 11.0 245 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
GREENVILLE 10.3 300 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

...QUEENS COUNTY...
FRESH MEADOWS 13.2 150 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
QUEENS VILLAGE 12.0 254 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
KEW GARDENS 11.5 230 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
1 WSW WALDEN TERRACE 10.6 316 PM 2/09 COCORAHS
NYC/LA GUARDIA 9.5 100 PM 2/09 FAA OBSERVER
MASPETH 8.0 245 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
NYC/JFK AIRPORT 7.4 100 PM 2/09 FAA OBSERVER

...RICHMOND COUNTY...
RICHMOND 8.5 200 PM 2/09 COCORAHS

...ROCKLAND COUNTY...
NEW CITY 9.5 215 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
SLOATSBURG 7.5 1238 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

...SUFFOLK COUNTY...
FARMINGVILLE 14.4 300 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
CENTEREACH 13.5 210 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
HAUPPAUGE 12.1 200 PM 2/09 NWS EMPLOYEE
COMMACK 12.0 1245 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
EAST ISLIP 12.0 225 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
EASTPORT 11.5 145 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
UPTON 11.1 100 PM 2/09 NWS OFFICE
ORIENT 11.0 240 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
ISLIP AIRPORT 10.6 100 PM 2/09 FAA OBSERVER
PATCHOGUE 10.5 139 PM 2/09 NWS EMPLOYEE
WEST BABYLON 10.1 215 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
DEER PARK 10.0 200 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
SAYVILLE 9.1 100 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
LINDENHURST 8.6 118 PM 2/09 PUBLIC
SOUTHAMPTON 6.5 245 PM 2/09 PUBLIC

...WESTCHESTER COUNTY...
YORKTOWN HEIGHTS 12.2 245 PM 2/09 AMATEUR RADIO
HARRISON 11.0 200 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER
WHITE PLAINS 10.5 300 PM 2/09 TRAINED SPOTTER

 

[DJ Spanky]

Wow, they went all out with the readings from Passaic County!