What about forming a Medical Research and Sports Scheduling Alliance between the Big Ten and PAC12 to maximize revenue for all sports and research?

[RCBeta79]

What about forming a Medical Research and Sports Alliance between the Big Ten and PAC12 to maximize revenue for all sports? Good for Corporate Business as well.

Work together on a new Mega Alliance Sports Contract with Networks/Cable/Amazon.....and offer the largest Research Consortium to NIH covering a huge part of the US with top research programs.

California and Washington State have some of the largest companies in the world that can sponsor more sports and do more business with this Alliance of top Schools.

There could be a few crossover games in all sports, especially ones that don't bring in large revenues.
This includes immediate streaming revenues and extra Network/Cable games.

- Football - one crossover game
- Basketball - a few crossover games
- Baseball - a few crossover games
- Soccer - a few crossover games
- Wrestling - a crossover match with multiple teams
- Ice Hockey, Volleyball, Tennis, Track & Field, Swimming, etc.

What do you think?

 

[KeithK7624]

I’m open to it. Would love to travel to the west coast every other year for a game. I was bummed when they cancelled the UCLA series

 

[sunsetregret]

I'd rather just poach their top football schools and keep more of the money for us.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Big Ten needs to go BIG with expansion -- and target the Pac-12 | Politi

If the Big Ten wants to keep pace with the SEC, the days of surgical strikes are over.

www.nj.com

 

[mosito]

I'd rather just poach their top football schools and keep more of the money for us.

I think that is the problem.. regardless of how you look at it every existing conference has teams that bring little Value. Like ACC and having 4 North Carolina Teams. Or the 8 teams left in the Big 12. Or Oregon St, Washington St, Arizona(s).. w/e you get the point. The thing is to increase the revenue for Members.

By SEC getting Texas and OK, Vandy gets more money..technically money that would have gone to Baylor...

In losing Texas, the Pac 12 has no moves... so if USC, Oregon, California want to be close to competing with SEC and Big 10 they need to leave.

Likewise Clemson and Florida St. ACC has too many mouths to feed and they can't raid SEC or BIG 10.

So either the SEC reigns Supreme, with a gap to 2nd BIG10, with another Gap between them and ACC/Pac12. Or Big10 moves West or Southeast. And ACC GOR prevents that in the short term

Florida St and Clemson will be looking elsewhere unless they are content with getting 50% of what South Carolina and Florida SEC schools get..

Again just throwing numbers but you get the gist.

 

[RUref]

Agreed, Texas should be approached. Agreed, if a move is made, it should be big (and HAS to be smart and profitable).

But, Politi mentions West Virginia. All credibility goes out the window, with that. WVU and the B1G is ridiculous, academically. Any mention of WVU is utterly off base. Though you can never say, 'never', in this case you can.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

 

[RCBeta79]

Big Ten needs to go BIG with expansion -- and target the Pac-12 | Politi

If the Big Ten wants to keep pace with the SEC, the days of surgical strikes are over.

www.nj.com

Yes, the Big Ten needs to do something to protect its future revenue streams.

I believe the Big Ten should consider a PAC12 Alliance first or see if some of the best PAC12 teams reach out to the Big Ten.

The Big Ten has a history of not being Poachers.

 

[graystork]

A PAC12 Alliance makes sense on the academic front. Schools like Michigan are never going to be happy with the educationally derelict SEC. The PAC12 and to some extent ACC provide universities that meet the AAU bar. ACC is more geographically desirable, however if the SEC is really intent on creating a "super conference" this could be balanced by a Big 10/Pac12/ACC amalgamation. The question for Rutgers is how this would be set up. If this is run by the Big Ten simply adding ACC teams and/or a NFL/AFL type merger with the Pac12 where all existing teams get in Rutgers is set. However, if this is a new type of beast taking only the top programs we're in trouble. Let's hope for the prior. Big Ten/Pac 12 and picked ACC teams vs SEC super conference.

 

[rucoe89]

What about forming a Medical Research and Sports Alliance between the Big Ten and PAC12 to maximize revenue for all sports? Good for Corporate Business as well.

Work together on a new Mega Alliance Sports Contract with Networks/Cable/Amazon.....and offer the largest Research Consortium to NIH covering a huge part of the US with top research programs.

California and Washington State have some of the largest companies in the world that can sponsor more sports and do more business with this Alliance of top Schools.

There could be a few crossover games in all sports, especially ones that don't bring in large revenues.
This includes immediate streaming revenues and extra Network/Cable games.

- Football - one crossover game
- Basketball - a few crossover games
- Baseball - a few crossover games
- Soccer - a few crossover games
- Wrestling - a crossover match with multiple teams
- Ice Hockey, Volleyball, Tennis, Track & Field, Swimming, etc.

What do you think?

At some point, someone is going to realize some creative ahead of the curve thinking will be needed unless they want ESPN or FoxSports to control their destiny.

 

[rucoe89]

I think that is the problem.. regardless of how you look at it every existing conference has teams that bring little Value. Like ACC and having 4 North Carolina Teams. Or the 8 teams left in the Big 12. Or Oregon St, Washington St, Arizona(s).. w/e you get the point. The thing is to increase the revenue for Members.

By SEC getting Texas and OK, Vandy gets more money..technically money that would have gone to Baylor...

In losing Texas, the Pac 12 has no moves... so if USC, Oregon, California want to be close to competing with SEC and Big 10 they need to leave.

Likewise Clemson and Florida St. ACC has too many mouths to feed and they can't raid SEC or BIG 10.

So either the SEC reigns Supreme, with a gap to 2nd BIG10, with another Gap between them and ACC/Pac12. Or Big10 moves West or Southeast. And ACC GOR prevents that in the short term

Florida St and Clemson will be looking elsewhere unless they are content with getting 50% of what South Carolina and Florida SEC schools get..

Again just throwing numbers but you get the gist.

The ESPN end game could be a Saturday “league“ to compete with The Sunday League. This may only be step one of that process.

 

[Shelby65]

Through their research offices, individual faculty apply to sponsors to fund their university research. Very often these proposals involve research teams and collaborations across other universities to tap additional, complementary expertise.

Sometimes the university will cost-share, and sometimes sponsors require it.

Being part of the Big10 research consortium doesn't change or boost any of that. Faculty have always partnered with external colleagues.

I have yet to see any accurate explanation of benefit of the consortium outside of 'sounding good'. Doesn't help or hurt. It doesn't matter to research revenue.

 

[koleszar]

The ESPN end game could be a Saturday “league“ to compete with The Sunday League. This may only be step one of that process.

Said it in another thread, they want to reduce the inventory they have to pay for. They want an NFL style league where they only pay for the Premier teams and tell the others to eat sh*t and die.

 

[mosito]

Said it in another thread, they want to reduce the inventory they have to pay for. They want an NFL style league where they only pay for the Premier teams and tell the others to eat sh*t and die.

Agreed.... Why pay for Oregon St, Washington St. Arizonas, Wake Forest, NC States when you can just remove them from the equation.

Sure they are stuck with Mississippi, Vandy, but by reducing and/or removing competition, they increase their value while paying less overall money.

If that results in a stronger BIG10... so what... Something tells me that they don't want to pay for 2 superconferences anyway, 1 is enough.

 

[Ridge 22]

What about forming a Medical Research and Sports Alliance between the Big Ten and PAC12 to maximize revenue for all sports? Good for Corporate Business as well.

Work together on a new Mega Alliance Sports Contract with Networks/Cable/Amazon.....and offer the largest Research Consortium to NIH covering a huge part of the US with top research programs.

California and Washington State have some of the largest companies in the world that can sponsor more sports and do more business with this Alliance of top Schools.

There could be a few crossover games in all sports, especially ones that don't bring in large revenues.
This includes immediate streaming revenues and extra Network/Cable games.

- Football - one crossover game
- Basketball - a few crossover games
- Baseball - a few crossover games
- Soccer - a few crossover games
- Wrestling - a crossover match with multiple teams
- Ice Hockey, Volleyball, Tennis, Track & Field, Swimming, etc.

What do you think?

What exactly is the benefit of an alliance over simply cherry picking their best properties and locking them up? The research angle of all this is way overblown as well. There are benefits, but no where near the levels I have seen people cite. The amount of disinformation on this topic is significant. There is another thread on this already which lays it out pretty well. If we want schools because they add value, then go poach them. Or form an alliance and just leave them there for the SEC to come take for themselves whenever they feel like it. Similar to Texas and Oklahoma, you won't realize anything happened until it already did.

 

[Ridge 22]

Through their research offices, individual faculty apply to sponsors to fund their university research. Very often these proposals involve research teams and collaborations across other universities to tap additional, complementary expertise.

Sometimes the university will cost-share, and sometimes sponsors require it.

Being part of the Big10 research consortium doesn't change or boost any of that. Faculty have always partnered with external colleagues.

I have yet to see any accurate explanation of benefit of the consortium outside of 'sounding good'. Doesn't help or hurt. It doesn't matter to research revenue.

Exactly. The only thing people on here seem to understand less than realignment is the B1G research consortium.

 

[WhichReligionIsRight]

Agreed, Texas should be approached. Agreed, if a move is made, it should be big (and HAS to be smart and profitable).

But, Politi mentions West Virginia. All credibility goes out the window, with that. WVU and the B1G is ridiculous, academically. Any mention of WVU is utterly off base. Though you can never say, 'never', in this case you can.

The ACC did add Louisville. Louisville is like a big high school in terms of academics.

 

[RCBeta79]

At some point, someone is going to realize some creative ahead of the curve thinking will be needed unless they want ESPN or FoxSports to control their destiny.

Exactly!

 

[Plum Street]

Exactly. The only thing people on here seem to understand less than realignment is the B1G research consortium.

No one gives a crap about academics