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5 Teams Played, 5 Losses. The Pattern has been established....

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Now that we have played 5 teams that are better than us, and lost to all 5 (Miami, SH, Wis., PST and MST), we must admit that following weaknesses of our team have been exposed. Pikiel and his staff must get the player's to correct or adjust to these items, otherwise we will continue to lose every game on our remaining schedule, as each of our losses have occurred for essentially the same reasons.

Here's my take:

1. We miss too many easy shots. I'm not talking about outside shots that are 15' or more from the basket. I'm talking about point blank layups and put-backs. There are at least 3-6 missed chippies per game; perhaps more, if I analyzed a shot chart. We desperately need every point. If you cannot make a layup or you miss a put-back, you must be taken out of the game. A missed layup is a killer. Repeat offenders are CJ, Freeman, Laurent, Diallo and Johnson. In my view, we are missing these easy shots because we are out-manned physically and athletically and so we think we must play fast around the basket. Freeman is the perfect example. He is so freaked out by having to play against bigger stronger guys, that he rushes every offensive move -- as if saying to himself -- "I better move quickly, otherwise I will get stuffed!" Slow down and make the shots that we should be making!

2. We miss too many foul shots. Making a foul shot is the only skill that is totally on the player himself. There is no one else at the line but you. It's time to be selfish. You either make the shot or you don't. How do you get better? It's totally muscle memory, hand eye coordination -- repetitive practice. You need to shoot at least for 1/2 hour straight every practice and make at least 75%. You should not be missing 1 out of 2. There is no excuse. In my view, I knew we were going to lose the MST game the other night when we missed 4 fouls shots in a row early in the game. We have no ability to make up for these lost points. We have several players that can drive to the basket. This is the strength of our offense. If this is to continue to occur, then we need to hit our fouls shots. Otherwise, it might as well be considered a turnover. Consider the Depaul game. We won the game (played 11/17) by 7 points by a score of 66-59. In the Depaul game we made 23-29 foul shots. In the MST game, we lost 93-65 and missed 15 out of 27 foul shots (several of which were the front end of 1-1). Had we made 75% of those missed foul shots, made the missed layups and putbacks, we would have been in the game at the end.

3. We need to jump when we rebound and when we play defense around the hoop. CJ is prime offender. The man does not jump more than 2" off the ground. His opponents regularly jump over him to snare rebounds or score. In the SH game (first half), no one jumped for rebounds. Against the 5 teams noted above, our rebound numbers are way down. We are playing more talented big men and we need to ratchet up our effort on the boards. Put a body on someone and don't forget to jump!

4. One of our strengths is that we have a deep team. Other than having Corey on the floor as much as possible, there is no other player (perhaps other than Williams when we need an outside shot) that has a real impact on our team whether he is playing or not. That being the case, where we have so many interchangeable parts, in my view, we should pressing more often than we have to date. Not just every once in a while, but nearly all the time. Playing a more aggressive defensive style hides our weakness as a poor shooting team. We have many interchangeable parts. Use these parts more efficiently -- not just to see if another player can make a shot.

5. When Doorson and Diallo sub in for CJ, they do nothing on offense other than set picks for the guards at the top of the key area. I think we need to weave in a more of an inside, low post offense first when these payers are in the game. Let Doorson and Diallo try to make a post move once a decade. It will open up the offense for the rest of the team.

6. Freeman must shoot jumpers. He cannot continue to force up the back to the basket shots that were so successful against the Niagara's and Central Conn. of the world. He is undersized and he must accept that. If he uses his quickness and makes a few outside shots, he can the drive by the bigs who have to come out and guard him. He needs to embrace the skill set that he has that make him different. He cannot continue to believe that he can overpower larger or more athletic players. And, by the way, make a dunk shot once in awhile.

7. Someone other than Williams must be able to make a wide-open in rhythm outside shot. The chief offenders are Thiam, Sanders, Johnson, Eugene and Laurent. They need to take these 3 point shots when they are presented. It's nothing more than taking it in rhythm -- that's the key, not to force the shot or take it while contested. We rarely make open shots -- it's incredible. Once Sanders and Johnson can make a 3 in the game, their defenders have to come up and play them. If that occurs, the defenders are in trouble, because Sanders and Johnson are probably the 2 quickest guards in the BIG when getting to the basket.

8. Reduce turnovers. The goal should be no unforced errors. Control what you can control. No cross court, lazy passes. No passes at the feet of big men. No hand-off of the ball to the opposing player when you start an offensive possession.

This is the recipe. If we don't use this recipe to play our game, we will not win a game in the BIG, unless our opponent has a seismic collapse.
 
I can't really disagree with any of this. My hope and I'm sure yours is to see some development in these areas as we go forward. My hope is that a couple of these go well for us in a game and a couple of go bad for the other team in the same game and we end up stealing a couple of these BIG games.
 
Now that we have played 5 teams that are better than us, and lost to all 5 (Miami, SH, Wis., PST and MST), we must admit that following weaknesses of our team have been exposed. Pikiel and his staff must get the player's to correct or adjust to these items, otherwise we will continue to lose every game on our remaining schedule, as each of our losses have occurred for essentially the same reasons.

Here's my take:

1. We miss too many easy shots. I'm not talking about outside shots that are 15' or more from the basket. I'm talking about point blank layups and put-backs. There are at least 3-6 missed chippies per game; perhaps more, if I analyzed a shot chart. We desperately need every point. If you cannot make a layup or you miss a put-back, you must be taken out of the game. A missed layup is a killer. Repeat offenders are CJ, Freeman, Laurent, Diallo and Johnson. In my view, we are missing these easy shots because we are out-manned physically and athletically and so we think we must play fast around the basket. Freeman is the perfect example. He is so freaked out by having to play against bigger stronger guys, that he rushes every offensive move -- as if saying to himself -- "I better move quickly, otherwise I will get stuffed!" Slow down and make the shots that we should be making!

2. We miss too many foul shots. Making a foul shot is the only skill that is totally on the player himself. There is no one else at the line but you. It's time to be selfish. You either make the shot or you don't. How do you get better? It's totally muscle memory, hand eye coordination -- repetitive practice. You need to shoot at least for 1/2 hour straight every practice and make at least 75%. You should not be missing 1 out of 2. There is no excuse. In my view, I knew we were going to lose the MST game the other night when we missed 4 fouls shots in a row early in the game. We have no ability to make up for these lost points. We have several players that can drive to the basket. This is the strength of our offense. If this is to continue to occur, then we need to hit our fouls shots. Otherwise, it might as well be considered a turnover. Consider the Depaul game. We won the game (played 11/17) by 7 points by a score of 66-59. In the Depaul game we made 23-29 foul shots. In the MST game, we lost 93-65 and missed 15 out of 27 foul shots (several of which were the front end of 1-1). Had we made 75% of those missed foul shots, made the missed layups and putbacks, we would have been in the game at the end.

3. We need to jump when we rebound and when we play defense around the hoop. CJ is prime offender. The man does not jump more than 2" off the ground. His opponents regularly jump over him to snare rebounds or score. In the SH game (first half), no one jumped for rebounds. Against the 5 teams noted above, our rebound numbers are way down. We are playing more talented big men and we need to ratchet up our effort on the boards. Put a body on someone and don't forget to jump!

4. One of our strengths is that we have a deep team. Other than having Corey on the floor as much as possible, there is no other player (perhaps other than Williams when we need an outside shot) that has a real impact on our team whether he is playing or not. That being the case, where we have so many interchangeable parts, in my view, we should pressing more often than we have to date. Not just every once in a while, but nearly all the time. Playing a more aggressive defensive style hides our weakness as a poor shooting team. We have many interchangeable parts. Use these parts more efficiently -- not just to see if another player can make a shot.

5. When Doorson and Diallo sub in for CJ, they do nothing on offense other than set picks for the guards at the top of the key area. I think we need to weave in a more of an inside, low post offense first when these payers are in the game. Let Doorson and Diallo try to make a post move once a decade. It will open up the offense for the rest of the team.

6. Freeman must shoot jumpers. He cannot continue to force up the back to the basket shots that were so successful against the Niagara's and Central Conn. of the world. He is undersized and he must accept that. If he uses his quickness and makes a few outside shots, he can the drive by the bigs who have to come out and guard him. He needs to embrace the skill set that he has that make him different. He cannot continue to believe that he can overpower larger or more athletic players. And, by the way, make a dunk shot once in awhile.

7. Someone other than Williams must be able to make a wide-open in rhythm outside shot. The chief offenders are Thiam, Sanders, Johnson, Eugene and Laurent. They need to take these 3 point shots when they are presented. It's nothing more than taking it in rhythm -- that's the key, not to force the shot or take it while contested. We rarely make open shots -- it's incredible. Once Sanders and Johnson can make a 3 in the game, their defenders have to come up and play them. If that occurs, the defenders are in trouble, because Sanders and Johnson are probably the 2 quickest guards in the BIG when getting to the basket.

8. Reduce turnovers. The goal should be no unforced errors. Control what you can control. No cross court, lazy passes. No passes at the feet of big men. No hand-off of the ball to the opposing player when you start an offensive possession.

This is the recipe. If we don't use this recipe to play our game, we will not win a game in the BIG, unless our opponent has a seismic collapse.
I watched 2 HS teams on TV that both shot 10x better from mid range and 3 Pt land than scholarship D1 players at RU. They also stepped up to the line and hit free throw after free throw in tough under pressure conotions. This team needs someone anyone that can shoot from further than 5 feet out
 
I think what you wrote has been pretty obvious to most who post here, and certainly coach knows all too well what the deficiencies are, and I'm sure that they've been working on their deficiencies every practice. Given all that, it seems that the team needs to play a near perfect game to get a win in the rest of the schedule. Let's hope today is the first win.
 
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1, 2, 4, and 8 are the easiest areas to improve.

I've been screaming about our FG% and it's because we miss as many 1 footers as 19 footers. Nonetheless, the 3 is the great equalizer and unfortunately, we don't have that ability while EVERY other team does, when those 1 footers aren't dropping. Take the Penn State game. They made 4 more 3's that we did, 12 points. We lost by 13.

We miss both 1 and 19 footers, and miss free throws, while throwing the ball away = 0-3 in B1G play.
 
When you get outscored by 20+ points from 3 point land you can't do enough things right to compensate. Because we shoot so poorly from the outside that never becomes an advantage for us in any game.
Drawing shooting fouls only helps if you make them and if we had a small lead at the end of the game we probably wouldn't win.
Having a bigger roster should make it somewhat easier, but the other B1G schools are more athletic and don't commit unforced TO's.
 
What confound me is with with SA , Thiam, Diallo & Gettys getting a bucket apiece while Williams, Doorson & Omoruyi getting ZERO points...we lost 6 6pts. 3 measly buckets.
Youd think someone would get HOT...just once & go 3-4 instead of 0-4(attn Mike Williams)

I keep reminding myself it WAS a road game.....& despite 7 guys doing ZIP on O
we did pretty well.....

We can get them when the visit the RAC,,,,,
 
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What confound me is with with SA , Thiam, Diallo & Gettys getting a bucket apiece while Williams, Doorson & Omoruyi getting ZERO points...we lost 6 6pts. 3 measly buckets.
Youd think someone would get HOT...just once & go 3-4 instead of 0-4(attn Mike Williams)

I keep reminding myself it WAS a road game.....& despite 7 guys doing ZIP on O
we did pretty well.....

We can get them when the visit the RAC,,,,,
I still think that Gettys should be able to make a few jump shots (a shot) from 10-12 feet after receiving a pass. He is usually uncovered, trying to screen for someone else and the defense lays back. He seems to have a soft touch, but very unsure how to finish on a contested drive. At 7' he is already even with the basket without getting a little off his feet. Made a nice move across the lane, but missed.
If Williams goes O fer than someone else has to step up. Just never seems to happen. Can't expect someone off the bench to go 2-2 either.
 
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Now that we have played 5 teams that are better than us, and lost to all 5 (Miami, SH, Wis., PST and MST), we must admit that following weaknesses of our team have been exposed. Pikiel and his staff must get the player's to correct or adjust to these items, otherwise we will continue to lose every game on our remaining schedule, as each of our losses have occurred for essentially the same reasons.

Here's my take:

1. We miss too many easy shots. I'm not talking about outside shots that are 15' or more from the basket. I'm talking about point blank layups and put-backs. There are at least 3-6 missed chippies per game; perhaps more, if I analyzed a shot chart. We desperately need every point. If you cannot make a layup or you miss a put-back, you must be taken out of the game. A missed layup is a killer. Repeat offenders are CJ, Freeman, Laurent, Diallo and Johnson. In my view, we are missing these easy shots because we are out-manned physically and athletically and so we think we must play fast around the basket. Freeman is the perfect example. He is so freaked out by having to play against bigger stronger guys, that he rushes every offensive move -- as if saying to himself -- "I better move quickly, otherwise I will get stuffed!" Slow down and make the shots that we should be making!

2. We miss too many foul shots. Making a foul shot is the only skill that is totally on the player himself. There is no one else at the line but you. It's time to be selfish. You either make the shot or you don't. How do you get better? It's totally muscle memory, hand eye coordination -- repetitive practice. You need to shoot at least for 1/2 hour straight every practice and make at least 75%. You should not be missing 1 out of 2. There is no excuse. In my view, I knew we were going to lose the MST game the other night when we missed 4 fouls shots in a row early in the game. We have no ability to make up for these lost points. We have several players that can drive to the basket. This is the strength of our offense. If this is to continue to occur, then we need to hit our fouls shots. Otherwise, it might as well be considered a turnover. Consider the Depaul game. We won the game (played 11/17) by 7 points by a score of 66-59. In the Depaul game we made 23-29 foul shots. In the MST game, we lost 93-65 and missed 15 out of 27 foul shots (several of which were the front end of 1-1). Had we made 75% of those missed foul shots, made the missed layups and putbacks, we would have been in the game at the end.

3. We need to jump when we rebound and when we play defense around the hoop. CJ is prime offender. The man does not jump more than 2" off the ground. His opponents regularly jump over him to snare rebounds or score. In the SH game (first half), no one jumped for rebounds. Against the 5 teams noted above, our rebound numbers are way down. We are playing more talented big men and we need to ratchet up our effort on the boards. Put a body on someone and don't forget to jump!

4. One of our strengths is that we have a deep team. Other than having Corey on the floor as much as possible, there is no other player (perhaps other than Williams when we need an outside shot) that has a real impact on our team whether he is playing or not. That being the case, where we have so many interchangeable parts, in my view, we should pressing more often than we have to date. Not just every once in a while, but nearly all the time. Playing a more aggressive defensive style hides our weakness as a poor shooting team. We have many interchangeable parts. Use these parts more efficiently -- not just to see if another player can make a shot.

5. When Doorson and Diallo sub in for CJ, they do nothing on offense other than set picks for the guards at the top of the key area. I think we need to weave in a more of an inside, low post offense first when these payers are in the game. Let Doorson and Diallo try to make a post move once a decade. It will open up the offense for the rest of the team.

6. Freeman must shoot jumpers. He cannot continue to force up the back to the basket shots that were so successful against the Niagara's and Central Conn. of the world. He is undersized and he must accept that. If he uses his quickness and makes a few outside shots, he can the drive by the bigs who have to come out and guard him. He needs to embrace the skill set that he has that make him different. He cannot continue to believe that he can overpower larger or more athletic players. And, by the way, make a dunk shot once in awhile.

7. Someone other than Williams must be able to make a wide-open in rhythm outside shot. The chief offenders are Thiam, Sanders, Johnson, Eugene and Laurent. They need to take these 3 point shots when they are presented. It's nothing more than taking it in rhythm -- that's the key, not to force the shot or take it while contested. We rarely make open shots -- it's incredible. Once Sanders and Johnson can make a 3 in the game, their defenders have to come up and play them. If that occurs, the defenders are in trouble, because Sanders and Johnson are probably the 2 quickest guards in the BIG when getting to the basket.

8. Reduce turnovers. The goal should be no unforced errors. Control what you can control. No cross court, lazy passes. No passes at the feet of big men. No hand-off of the ball to the opposing player when you start an offensive possession.

This is the recipe. If we don't use this recipe to play our game, we will not win a game in the BIG, unless our opponent has a seismic collapse.
Very good analysis The problem is the solutions all rest with recruiting higher level talent which Rutgers has been unable to attract or keep from transferring because of poor team results.Top tier recruits want to play on a team that will have a winning record and participate in the NCAA Tournament.
 
6 teams played, 6 losses, but improvement noted. Now it's up to the coaching staff to build on this with the players.

Here's what I mean:

1. I think Freeman has finally figured it out. His skill set is unique for someone his size. He is tough, strong, can jump, has good moves in traffic and a high motor. He can outwork most opponents, but he must stretch the opponent out to the perimeter in order to exploit his strengths. The only way to do that on a consistent basis is to take an outside shot when presented and make it. Once he does that, his defender is toast, because then Freeman can drive right around him. I'm sure the coaching staff has explained the facts of life to Freeman -- i.e., "you are too short to overpower anyone who will be guarding you on a BIG team or a top 50 program. You can't power up over these defenders and you can't dunk on them. That being said, you can still dominate them by using your skills. Trust your skills and you will be productive. Be decisive. Slow down and then make a decisive move and shoot." Freeman's performance yesterday was his best in an RU uniform. If he continues at that pace, we will breakthrough and win a game. As Captain, he has to get the others to do same. Play within yourself -- only do the things you are capable of doing. Do not try to be something you are not.

2. Is it just me, or does anyone else notice that we miss so many chippies. It drives me nuts. I watch a ton of games on tv and I cannot recall another team that misses so many easy shots. If we only were able to hit those layups or put backs, or at least get fouled, we will win these games. Those 6-10 points we miss every game are absolute killers. Add the missed fouls shots to our total and -- presto -- victory.

3. Thiam still continues to be wildly inconsistent. One moment he drains a beautiful 3 pointer, and while the announcers wax poetically about how he's supposed to be our best shooter, he takes another 3 and barely hits the backboard. That is a pretty hard thing to do. Take a shot at the rim and miss so badly that the ball is more than 3 feet from rim. It should never really happen, particularly when you are wide open, as he was. I continue to think that Laurent is a better option to get more minutes than Eugene or Thiam. He's got more experience and is a better scorer.

4. Our 3 point defense continues to stink. Time and time again, our defenders leave their guy wide open beyond the 3 point arc as they attempt to help out one of their teammates. Once that occurs, the pass is made to open man and they drain the 3 more often than not. We have to improve our man on ball defense. We have the quickness to be better man on ball defenders. Even if the opponent gets by the initial defender, we have some pretty big guys that can guard the rim and help out. I would love to see the results -- for just one game -- if the help defender on the wing stays at home and doesn't try to make a half-ass hedge to help out. These 3 pointers are killers.

5. There are only 4BIG teams that are really superior -- MST, IND, WIS and PURDUE. The rest are beatable, but we need to play our A game to have any chance. Although this year's RU team is exponentially better than last year's team, we may not even 1 BIG game unless we take the next step. This one step forward, 2 steps back approach to BB will not cut it. The competition is too good.j
 
Shooting in basketball is like blocking and tackling in football. There is no way to schematically compensate for not being able to do it. It doesn't matter what half court offense you run. If you can't shoot the ball, you will be easy to defend. That's what we're finding out now that the competition is better.
 
@UM, @SHU, @Wisc, PSU, @MSU, @Iowa.

The @ symbol means the games were not played at the RAC. We've played one home game since 12/15. Our strength of schedule has risen almost 100 spots in 4 B1G games.
 
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@UM, @SHU, @Wisc, PSU, @MSU, @Iowa.

The @ symbol means the games were not played at the RAC. We've played one home game since 12/15. Our strength of schedule has risen almost 100 spots in 4 B1G games.

My theory is home games don't boost our offensive efficiency much, but it can really help defensively.

I'll stand by what I said, and was laughed at, the Michigan State would have been COMPLETELY different at the RAC.

I think it safe to assume we would have pulled out 1 of those games on our home floor, potentially 2 or even 3.
 
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1, 2, 4, and 8 are the easiest areas to improve.

I've been screaming about our FG% and it's because we miss as many 1 footers as 19 footers. Nonetheless, the 3 is the great equalizer and unfortunately, we don't have that ability while EVERY other team does, when those 1 footers aren't dropping. Take the Penn State game. They made 4 more 3's that we did, 12 points. We lost by 13.

We miss both 1 and 19 footers, and miss free throws, while throwing the ball away = 0-3 in B1G play.

Another year of the weight room will help this a LOT on the easier shots. Easier shots go in at a higher percentage when you play and shoot strong.

One off season doesn't fix this completely....but I think a second year does make us finish the easier and shorter range shot at a higher percentage
 
8. Reduce turnovers. The goal should be no unforced errors. Control what you can control. No cross court, lazy passes. No passes at the feet of big men. No hand-off of the ball to the opposing player when you start an offensive possession.
This should be much higher on the list. RU turns the ball over on 22% of its possessions. Wins will most likely elude RU until that percentage drops below 15%.
 
This should be much higher on the list. RU turns the ball over on 22% of its possessions. Wins will most likely elude RU until that percentage drops below 15%.

15% would put as 10th in the country
20.3% is currently where we are at. 261st
21.8% in the 6 real games

Lower it to 100th would be 17.8%....4% improvment over the real games. It would then add 2.88 possessions without a turnover which all things equal add 3.4 ish point to our offense and probably improve D .6ish points (some TOs are dunks).

4 net points doesn't sound like a lot, but it is. That would actually move us in the 80-90 range on kenpom rankings (4 points over 72 possessions would help .055555, our adjusted EM goes from a+2.26 to a +8.1, #82 Vermont)
 
15% would put as 10th in the country
20.3% is currently where we are at. 261st
21.8% in the 6 real games

Lower it to 100th would be 17.8%....4% improvment over the real games. It would then add 2.88 possessions without a turnover which all things equal add 3.4 ish point to our offense and probably improve D .6ish points (some TOs are dunks).

4 net points doesn't sound like a lot, but it is. That would actually move us in the 80-90 range on kenpom rankings (4 points over 72 possessions would help .055555, our adjusted EM goes from a+2.26 to a +8.1, #82 Vermont)
Thanks for providing the stats. Getting the percentage below 18% would do wonders. Simply, RU must find a way to handle the rock better to have a chance of "RAC"-ing up a few B1G victories.
 
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Another year of the weight room will help this a LOT on the easier shots. Easier shots go in at a higher percentage when you play and shoot strong.

One off season doesn't fix this completely....but I think a second year does make us finish the easier and shorter range shot at a higher percentage
I hope you are right but I have seen too many players complete 4 years at Rutgers and still lack the skills to make layups,foul shots or finish around the basket.
 
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