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ARod retires this Friday

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Love him or hate him, he was one of the best players of our generation..

I agree, but like all the other sluggers of his generation (Bonds, Sosa, McGuire, Palmiero, etc etc)'and even some pitchers, his reputation took a huge hit due to the use of HGH and other PEDs.
 
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I agree, but like all the other sluggers of his generation (Bonds, Sosa, McGuire, Palmiero, etc etc)'and even some pitchers, his reputation took a huge hit due to the use of HGH and other PEDs.


Agree..then again, he was one of the few to actually admit it and own up...which is a positive in my opinion.

Think a lot of his hate comes because of his huge contract and the fact he was a yankee.
 
Since he will be retiring on Friday, does that mean the Yankees do or don't owe him the approximately $5+ million left for 2016 and $20 million for 2017? Does his role as a "team advisor" mean he will be under a different salary structure not subject to team salary and luxury tax?

And are Yanks off the hook as far as his salary against the team salary cap and potential luxury tax implications for 2017?
 
Since he will be retiring on Friday, does that mean the Yankees do or don't owe him the approximately $5+ million left for 2016 and $20 million for 2017? Does his role as a "team advisor" mean he will be under a different salary structure not subject to team salary and luxury tax?

And are Yanks off the hook as far as his salary against the team salary cap and potential luxury tax implications for 2017?

Yankees still owe him everything.
 
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I just don't get this.

They're obviously not a playoff team.

Alex is one of the few players that I actually want to see at bat.

Less reason to watch the rest of the season and I won't be attending any more games until next Spring.
 
"The only way he'll see the inside of Cooperstown is to buy a ticket."

Very likely, but there's the distinct chance that the Hall eventually sees the need to recognize the 80s/90s/00s and the steroid years. They didn't do enough to stop it until it was too late. Meanwhile, the Hall has pitchers who were known to cheat.

Not sure how I feel about it. We will never know who was truly steroid free from that era...
 
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This is either going to be an infinite thread or a yawner.I go with the latter.Saddest part is it should have been a celebration instead of a burial . Oh well.
 
The guy is an automatic out. If he stayed he was taking a spot/at bats from any prospect they want bring up evaluate/give some experience. In reality he was never going to step into the batters box agian so the Yankees get what they want and Arod saves face and gets his $$$.
 
I agree, but like all the other sluggers of his generation (Bonds, Sosa, McGuire, Palmiero, etc etc)'and even some pitchers, his reputation took a huge hit due to the use of HGH and other PEDs.
He is a product of the Steroid Era of baseball, which started as total "legal" from an MLB point of view, who turned their back for years and year until Congress smacked Bud Selig around. It is what it is. A tremendous amount of players used, known and unknown. It doesn't make it right, and it doesn't mean that MLB should welcome all of these guys into the HOF, but MLB should figure out a position and how to deal with this Era.
 
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Agree..then again, he was one of the few to actually admit it and own up...which is a positive in my opinion.

Think a lot of his hate comes because of his huge contract and the fact he was a yankee.
He owned up to but because he got caught. Doesn't get any bonus points from me for that.
 
He is a product of the Steroid Era of baseball, which started as total "legal" from an MLB point of view, who turned their back for years and year until Congress smacked Bud Selig around. It is what it is. A tremendous amount of players used, known and unknown. It doesn't make it right, and it doesn't mean that MLB should welcome all of these guys into the HOF, but MLB should figure out a position and how to deal with this Era.

The really sad thing about ARod is that he had the talent to be an easy HOFer without ever touching steroids or HGH. His HR totals wouldn't have been as inflated w/o the PEDs, but his stats would have still been outstanding.
 
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Its not the fact he did or did not use steroids.

He didn't own it after the fact. People respect you if you OWN IT!

He lied to EVERYONE even after when the cat was out of the bag. Went after his own organization. Sued his own union.

He is just a bad guy. Bad soul. Can't wait until we are finally rid of the him for good.
 
Its not the fact he did or did not use steroids.

He didn't own it after the fact. People respect you if you OWN IT!

He lied to EVERYONE even after when the cat was out of the bag. Went after his own organization. Sued his own union.

He is just a bad guy. Bad soul. Can't wait until we are finally rid of the him for good.
That's gonna be in a long time. He's going to do TV. He's very knowledgeable about baseball and its history.
 
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That's gonna be in a long time. He's going to do TV. He's very knowledgeable about baseball and its history.
Very true. And if not TV, he will be on a coaching staff, so many stories over the years on how good he is with younger players.
 
Being reported ARod was 'forced out'.

"The answer is, sure, of course, I think I can play baseball," Rodriguez said. "You always think that you have one more hit and can help your team win one more game, for sure. That wasn't in the cards. That was the Yankees' decision. I'm at peace with it."

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf...riguez_was_forced_out.html#incart_river_index
http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf...riguez_was_forced_out.html#incart_river_index
Don't be surprised if ARod's 'retirement' is short one.
 
Being reported ARod was 'forced out'.

"The answer is, sure, of course, I think I can play baseball," Rodriguez said. "You always think that you have one more hit and can help your team win one more game, for sure. That wasn't in the cards. That was the Yankees' decision. I'm at peace with it."

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf...riguez_was_forced_out.html#incart_river_index
Don't be surprised if ARod's 'retirement' is short one.
The guy can't hit anymore. If he could the Yankees would have played him. I don't care if he's Charles Manson, he'd play if he could help the team win. No team is going to want a guy who can no longer hit.
 
Alex did himself no favors but the bottom line is he was a top 5 player of all time without PEDS use and is a top 10 player of all time with the PEDs use. Jeter couldn't carry his jockstrap playing shortstop and Alex gave it up to play third base and join the Yanks. The guy was too greedy. Great wasn't good enough and he wanted more. Also think Scott Boras really f'ed up this guy's position with the public when during the playoffs he announces Alex would exercise his option for free agency without him even knowing and asking the Mets for outrageuous requests when Alex really wanted to join them. At the end of the day the Steinbrenners got their filled stadium and the YES network got its viewership, Yankee fans got their championship, ESPN got their eyeballs for every Alex story it broke and baseball got more interest when it really needed it. As life long Yankee fan I hope another team like the Marlins picks him up so he can break 700 and join a very select group of HR hitters.

GO RU
 
Since he will be retiring on Friday, does that mean the Yankees do or don't owe him the approximately $5+ million left for 2016 and $20 million for 2017? Does his role as a "team advisor" mean he will be under a different salary structure not subject to team salary and luxury tax?

And are Yanks off the hook as far as his salary against the team salary cap and potential luxury tax implications for 2017?

Yankees still owe him everything.

That only answered half the question.
 
Agree..then again, he was one of the few to actually admit it and own up...which is a positive in my opinion.

What planet were you living on? Did you miss the almost 2 years where he denied PED use over and over again in public, sued the Yankees and the team doctor, and basically took a nuclear approach to the situation rather than taking his medicine like the rest of the guys who got caught. All until he was forced to go before a grand jury in January and THEN he admitted to the entire thing. To this day, he STILL hasn't admitted his most recent PED use publicly. This guy is the most insincere, phoney to play in our lifetime.
 
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Someone will sign him even if he doesn't travel. His milestones will help smaller markets sell seats.
 
Screw him
You're not his type and he has much better options.
He is a product of the Steroid Era of baseball, which started as total "legal" from an MLB point of view, who turned their back for years and year until Congress smacked Bud Selig around.
They turned their back on it in order to recover from the blow back of the '94 strike. The home run race between McGuire and Sosa rejuvenated people's interest in baseball. No way was MLB gonna derail that.
Barry Bonds and ARod were 1st ballot locks for the hall before steroids. What a shame.
And that's the kicker right there - neither of those 2 needed chemical assistance to be great.
 
I agree, but like all the other sluggers of his generation (Bonds, Sosa, McGuire, Palmiero, etc etc)'and even some pitchers, his reputation took a huge hit due to the use of HGH and other PEDs.
Yes, the steroid, generation. Something to be proud of.
 
Agree..then again, he was one of the few to actually admit it and own up...which is a positive in my opinion.

Think a lot of his hate comes because of his huge contract and the fact he was a yankee.
Why? this is the same guy that lied, and lied and sued the team, the doctor,
actually the entire team, even his union wouldn't back him.
But, the Yankees being the class organization that they are
are giving him the game he requested Friday. He tarnished the
Yanks just being there, and many Yankee fans would give up
the 2009 championship year if in return he never played for us at all.
He should be the first player put in a new hall, the Hall of Shame.
 
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Why? this is the same guy that lied, and lied and sued the team, the doctor,
actually the entire team, even his union wouldn't back him.
But, the Yankees being the class organization that they are
are giving him the game he requested Friday. He tarnished the
Yanks just being there, and many Yankee fans would give up
the 2009 championship year if in return he never played for us at all.
He should be the first player put in a new hall, the Hall of Shame.

Wow ! the Hall of Shame. As uninteresting as the Hall of Fame.
I care as much as to whether or not a player is in the baseball Hall of Fame as I do whether or not some performer is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Both are IMO meaningless since the door has swung open and let so many in.
A baseball Hall of Fame without Bonds and Rose and Clemens and A-Rod is just STUPID.
 
The OP needs to be corrected. he was let go at a cost
of $28 million. Imagine that the guy was so bad, they
were willing to just take the lose just be rid of him.
 
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Agree..then again, he was one of the few to actually admit it and own up...which is a positive in my opinion.

Think a lot of his hate comes because of his huge contract and the fact he was a yankee.
And bc he's a d bag of epic proportions? He's a compulsive liar and a phony- doesn't take away from how great he was. Just like Bonds, Clemens etc. the guy had enough God given talent to not even need the PEDs.
 
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