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OK. He's not dumb or senile enough to make racist remarks to his mistress.

However, he simply did not care about the Clippers and was simply content with the fact that the franchise was making a profit. All Barchi and Hermann cares about is the steady paycheck from Rutgers University. They do not care that the B1G media and many B1G fans are calling Rutgers a national embarrassment, the football program is now destroying what Greg Schiano took years to build up and that some fans are even beginning to say that the B1G should do to Rutgers what the Big East did to Temple.
 
Anyone who thinks Julie doesn't care about being competitive on the field of play, in EVERY sport, and that all she cares about is a "paycheck," is out of their minds. What Julie is, or will be allowed to do, however, may or MAY NOT be something different.

Way to much opinion, guesswork, and conjecture - about this (what JH does/doesn't want, can/can't do, will/won't do) - in too many threads IMHO.
 
I believe Julie Hermann wants to be competitive. As for almost everyone else associated with the university...
 
I believe Julie Hermann wants to be competitive. As for almost everyone else associated with the university...

There are still a good # on the BOG and BOT, who do, as well, but all you have to do is talk to Julie for 30-seconds (which, according to 1 poster here, I've never done, so take my words with a "grain of salt," lol....) and you'll know she is as competitive as it gets. Grew up in Nebraska, played volleyball there, worked and coached at UGA, Tennessee, and 'Ville. How people can think, otherwise, is beyond me. Oh well.
 
OK. He's not dumb or senile enough to make racist remarks to his mistress.

However, he simply did not care about the Clippers and was simply content with the fact that the franchise was making a profit. All Barchi and Hermann cares about is the steady paycheck from Rutgers University. They do not care that the B1G media and many B1G fans are calling Rutgers a national embarrassment, the football program is now destroying what Greg Schiano took years to build up and that some fans are even beginning to say that the B1G should do to Rutgers what the Big East did to Temple.


Any support or basis for this opinion whatsoever? Or just another rant?

If you think the Big Ten is kicking us out because of some player arrests and a coach emailing a professor, you are out of your mind. If you think Hermann doesn't want to be successful, the same. People love to forget that she already tried to fire Flood once, the donors were just too cheap to put up the necessary funds.

I love how people who are overly worried about bad press suggest Barchi doesn't care because he does not encourage the Athletic Department to hire a new football coaching staff (and apparently build new practice facilities and a new arena), all over current budget. Meaning those funds would come from University money. Are you aware of how contradictory those things are? We have the largest subsidy in the nation right now. If we pay for more upgrades with increased university budget, we will get just as much bad press as we are getting now, but we will also get the NJ legislature back involved to "help" us get our spending under control.
 
I'm not a fan of Barchi in regards to athletics. But you must realize he has bigger fish to fry. If you care about Rutgers realize the most important thing right now is the integration of UMDNJ. Second is keeping the politicians off the board of governors. Third is building of academic facilities. Fourth is the integration into the CIC. Somewhere down the list is athletics.

Successfully integrating UMDNJ will have a bigger impact on Rutgers' future than anything that happens in a sporting event. With the integration we become more of a destination to students and athletes.
 
face it, even her supporters on here say she's powerless-- I'm sure she wants the best for RU sports but can she produce? we need an AD that can make stuff happen--that means getting big time givers , politicians and the press to be on her side--if she can make that happen we will be OK but the risk of that not happening seems severe
 
Both have to go, time to clean house.
We Barachi is gone in June of next year.
New President hopefully has some Athletics / University image fortitude and invests in quality AD and FB Coaches.
 
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I'm not a fan of Barchi in regards to athletics. But you must realize he has bigger fish to fry. If you care about Rutgers realize the most important thing right now is the integration of UMDNJ. Second is keeping the politicians off the board of governors. Third is building of academic facilities. Fourth is the integration into the CIC. Somewhere down the list is athletics.

Successfully integrating UMDNJ will have a bigger impact on Rutgers' future than anything that happens in a sporting event. With the integration we become more of a destination to students and athletes.

I'm not sure I agree with how low you place athletics. Why does anyone even know about a small, private, Catholic school somewhere in northern Indiana? When was the last time you heard about Alabama because of something related to academics or research? For large public universities athletics is public relations and marketing more than any other single thing is, like it or not. The fact that Rutgers struggles with image within its own state is a reflection of the neglect and incompetence directed at this very important area. And the university needs to take it seriously already.
 
Both have to go, time to clean house.
We Barachi is gone in June of next year.
New President hopefully has some Athletics / University image fortitude and invests in quality AD and FB Coaches.


So say we hire the president from Oregon or Texas or something. Do you think that President is going to OK the increase of the University Athletics subsidy to hire a dream football staff? Or do you think that President is also going to say, we already have the largest subsidy in college football, so perhaps we need to be patient with any increases in spending until we start seeing Big Ten TV funds?

If we increase the subsidy further, how much bad press is that going to generate? What does it mean for the school politically?? When it was first reported that the school had the largest athletics subsidy, we had NJ legislators try to pack the board and take control of the school, we had numerous attempts to take school assets, and countless articles highlighting spending run amok. We had legislators use the athletics subsidy as ammunition to justify reductions in state support to the university, because if we are spending it all on athletics, we obviously don't really need it.
 
Of course they care about the money. It's part of their job.

Don't know about Barchi but I'm willing to bet Hermann cares as much and probably more than anyone here about every RU sport.
 
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Of course they care about the money. It's part of their job.

Don't know about Barchi but I'm willing to bet Hermann cares as much and probably more than anyone here about every RU sport.
 
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OK. He's not dumb or senile enough to make racist remarks to his mistress.

However, he simply did not care about the Clippers and was simply content with the fact that the franchise was making a profit. All Barchi and Hermann cares about is the steady paycheck from Rutgers University. They do not care that the B1G media and many B1G fans are calling Rutgers a national embarrassment, the football program is now destroying what Greg Schiano took years to build up and that some fans are even beginning to say that the B1G should do to Rutgers what the Big East did to Temple.
Huh?

Should they have fired Flood after he won the Big East championship or after last year which most people on this board and nationally considered a success?

Or in year 2? How many coaches do you know that got fired in year 2 with an overall winning record? I'm guessing zero. If you can find one let me know.

Once they hired him, it had to be assumed that he would get 3 years regardless of his salary, just like every other coach, unless he just completely failed in year 1 (i.e. then they could say they basically saw him as an interim coach). And he did well enough in year three to warrant a year four.

Lets see what happens in December before we go off the deep end.

Also have a little faith in what "Schiano built" that it can survive one middling coaching tenure without completely caving in. If it can't then it wasn't much any way.

By the way - the national embarrassment thing is just the default setting for RU. Schiano didn't change that, he just got around it by winning enough that it wouldn't stick. If we were 3-0, it wouldn't stick this year either.
 
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some fans are even beginning to say that the B1G should do to Rutgers what the Big East did to Temple.

Nobody with a clue has said that and it will NEVER happen. The arrests, in-and-of-themselves, not the worst, and it happens everywhere - we're still a damn clean 3, 5, and 10-year program. It's topping those with Flood's sheer arrogance, stupidity, and deceit, along with the product on the field, that are really bringing all of this to a boil. The solution, in most opinions, is pretty simple:

Get rid of Flood and (hopefully begin to) move forward, once again, towards the heights we would aspire to reach.
 
Huh?



Also have a little faith in what "Schiano built" that it can survive one middling coaching tenure without completely caving in. If it can't then it wasn't much any way.

By the way - the national embarrassment thing is just the default setting for RU. Schiano didn't change that, he just got around it by winning enough that it wouldn't stick. If we were 3-0, it wouldn't stick this year either.

Well said.
 
Barchi needs to focus a=on academics first. A great football team without great academics makes you Florida State. I'd still rather have Rutgers on my diploma even with the crappy sports trams.
 
I'm not sure I agree with how low you place athletics. Why does anyone even know about a small, private, Catholic school somewhere in northern Indiana? When was the last time you heard about Alabama because of something related to academics or research? For large public universities athletics is public relations and marketing more than any other single thing is, like it or not. The fact that Rutgers struggles with image within its own state is a reflection of the neglect and incompetence directed at this very important area. And the university needs to take it seriously already.
I'm more concerned about the incompetence and neglect in regards to the academic side of the school. You seem to want to put the cart in front of the horse. You're right I don't hear about Alabama's research. I don't want to be Alabama. I do hear about University of Texas and Michigan's research. Some of things I have read about what Michigan is doing in engineering research is incredible. In my opinion if we can attract the best and brightest high school students in NJ we will also be able to attract the best athletes just like Texas and Michigan. Our University has been neglected for far too long by the state not just athletics. Barchi is doing his part to make Rutgers a destination school. If you rely on athletics to guide the school you really have your priorities out of whack.
 
So say we hire the president from Oregon or Texas or something. Do you think that President is going to OK the increase of the University Athletics subsidy to hire a dream football staff? Or do you think that President is also going to say, we already have the largest subsidy in college football, so perhaps we need to be patient with any increases in spending until we start seeing Big Ten TV funds?

If we increase the subsidy further, how much bad press is that going to generate? What does it mean for the school politically?? When it was first reported that the school had the largest athletics subsidy, we had NJ legislators try to pack the board and take control of the school, we had numerous attempts to take school assets, and countless articles highlighting spending run amok. We had legislators use the athletics subsidy as ammunition to justify reductions in state support to the university, because if we are spending it all on athletics, we obviously don't really need it.
Well said cabbage head. If we want the athletics budget to increase we need to increase revenue.
 
When delieder and areyounuts agree on something so emphatically either the OP is out of his mind or a troll.
 
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Well said cabbage head. If we want the athletics budget to increase we need to increase revenue.

Rutgers' athletic spending is about middle of the pack for Division 1. Where we lag is revenue. Some of that will be made up by TV revenue from the conference but the fans really need to step up as a whole. Withholding donations or not renewing season tickets because the "right" quarterback wasn't played (or whatever the excuse du jour for being a cheapskate may be) is counter productive.
 
These same nutty fans believed in Flood and now are against Flood. Herman and Burchi wants a winning team at a reasonable cost and are hindered by a hostile state, who also trying to save money and a hateful media. They are considering to terminate Flood and hire a new coach at 2-2.5 millions. 1 million over Flood salary.

There is a potential of losing 5-10,000 fans by next year which translates to about 3-6 million in revenue. You don't think they are aware of the loss revenue and doing their analysis. Add on top of that another 5-10,000 fans the next year and another 3-6 million lost revenue. That would be an average of 30,000 fans a game. I am making some rough estimates but probably 80% accurate. Just hope we make the right choice for the next coach. Not easy.
 
Your calcs are pretty accurate but I wouldn't say losing 10,000 bought tickets is accurate. PSU will still be a sellout, their will just be more blue in the stadium than last year.
 
So say we hire the president from Oregon or Texas or something. Do you think that President is going to OK the increase of the University Athletics subsidy to hire a dream football staff? Or do you think that President is also going to say, we already have the largest subsidy in college football, so perhaps we need to be patient with any increases in spending until we start seeing Big Ten TV funds?

If we increase the subsidy further, how much bad press is that going to generate? What does it mean for the school politically?? When it was first reported that the school had the largest athletics subsidy, we had NJ legislators try to pack the board and take control of the school, we had numerous attempts to take school assets, and countless articles highlighting spending run amok. We had legislators use the athletics subsidy as ammunition to justify reductions in state support to the university, because if we are spending it all on athletics, we obviously don't really need it.
This. Also - the reducing the subsidy thing started under McCormick.

So the basic complaint is
1. Barchi continued a policy set when we had Big East level revenues into an era when we still have Big East level revenues.
2. He has said we won't spend as much as teams that have Big Ten level conference venues and stadiums twice the size of ours
3. He didn't actively seek to have a winning coach fired.

Therefore, the guy hates athletics and will do nothing to help them succeed.
 
Nobody with a clue has said that and it will NEVER happen. The arrests, in-and-of-themselves, not the worst, and it happens everywhere - we're still a damn clean 3, 5, and 10-year program. It's topping those with Flood's sheer arrogance, stupidity, and deceit, along with the product on the field, that are really bringing all of this to a boil. The solution, in most opinions, is pretty simple:

Get rid of Flood and (hopefully begin to) move forward, once again, towards the heights we would aspire to reach.

When I say some fans, it does not mean that I myself am worried that this is going to happen. However, when I see fellow B1G fans that don't even have a rivalry with our school saying it, it does bother me. Another poster also brought up DiNardo's comments on how Flood is destroying what Schiano has taken years to build up.
 
When I say some fans, it does not mean that I myself am worried that this is going to happen. However, when I see fellow B1G fans that don't even have a rivalry with our school saying it, it does bother me. Another poster also brought up DiNardo's comments on how Flood is destroying what Schiano has taken years to build up.


You know when I was watching, the way he worded things - the whole piece actually - almost seemed like a warning to RU not to hire Norries Wilson or anyone like him, because they thought he was a clown during the press conference, and in light of everything that's been going on, that he made us look even worse doing that.
 
When delieder and areyounuts agree on something so emphatically either the OP is out of his mind or a troll.

Think what you want. I can tell you one thing. I love Rutgers and I want to see the football team go to the Rose Bowl more than a Mets World Series, a Devils Stanley Cup or a Cowboys Super Bowl. It hurts to see mediocrity yearly and 2006 was a long time ago. You all can keep making excuses for Barchi and Herman, but I am seriously sick to my stomach with the current state of this program. It's not even mediocre at this time for goodness sake. If this bothers you guys, I am sorry.
 
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