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Can anyone explain the "irreversible" clock error in the 149-pound match - Boo Lewallen vs Josh Heil?

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For those who saw or are familiar with the Lewallen/Heil match, how is such an egregious error allowed? This can't possibly be the first time that a clock error has occurred. Yet the lead official essentially claimed that human error can't be reversed. Heil was robbed.

"Campbell’s Josh Heil, the No. 20 seed at 149, looked like he had earned a 6-5 tiebreaker upset win over Oklahoma State No. 4 seed Boo Lewallen. The two had started neutral with 7 seconds left and Lewallen had pursued Heil, but the Camel had held him off as they veered out of bounds.

That started a bizarre series of events. Several people matside pointed to the score clock, which still read 0:07. The referees conferred and ultimately decided that since there was a clock error, the wrestlers would have to contest the final 7 seconds again.

This time, Lewallen got in on a single-leg takedown and converted it for a 7-6 win.

Campbell then threw the brick to challenge. After conferring with NCAA rules officials, the win went to Lewallen.

In a live interview afterward on ESPN, NCAA Wrestling National Coordinator of Officials Tim Shiels explained the referees’ position.

He said that since the clock hadn’t started, there is no relief in the rulebook to time the wrestling that had gone on by watching the replay with a stopwatch or other timing device.

“Our reviewers have to have something concrete. They can’t guess and say, ‘well, it should have been 3 or 4 seconds. They have to have proof off the video. And without that clock moving, we’ve got a clock error, which is unfortunate,” he said.

When asked if the reviewers could have used a stopwatch with the video of the match to determine how much time should have gone off the clock, Shiels shook his head no and said, “It’s not per se in the rule book.”
 
Campbell fell victims to the "John Smith" Rule.
John will get every questionable call from the refs and if he doesn't, will whine incessantly (See Fix vs Suriano final)

There is no explanation. Very Poor on the referees
 
Campbell fell victims to the "John Smith" Rule.
John will get every questionable call from the refs and if he doesn't, will whine incessantly (See Fix vs Suriano final)

There is no explanation. Very Poor on the referees

Sounds like Smith is quite the squeaky wheel. That sort of favoritism sullies the sport. Shame. It's really not that difficult - stop watch time the whistle to whistle video replay.
 
That was just BS and I put fault on 2nd official...He should have noticed immediately the clock didn't start and should of started counting or stopped the match...The 2nd Official was lazy and didn't do his job
 
Campbell fell victims to the "John Smith" Rule.
John will get every questionable call from the refs and if he doesn't, will whine incessantly (See Fix vs Suriano final)

There is no explanation. Very Poor on the referees
Smith did his fair share of chirping in the Fix/Bravo-Young match.
 
Smith did his fair share of chirping in the Fix/Bravo-Young match.

Might have been the first time I was genuinely happy to see a PSU wrestler win a NC. A few notes on that match. Fix still basically does very little and constantly backs away without getting hit for stalling (where have I seen that before?). I though it was very interesting he scrapped his bushy hairdo so hands on his headgear would be visable if that were to happen. Did I say I was genuinely happy to see RBY win over Fix? Especially as an overtime loss AGAIN for steroid boy.
 
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It was the refs fault the scorers table had a hand up telling him they were not ready and he never looked. The clock was never started at the table therefore it's dead time. You cant use a stopwatch or any other timing device.
 
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It was the refs fault the scorers table had a hand up telling him they were not ready and he never looked. The clock was never started at the table therefore it's dead time. You cant use a stopwatch or any other timing device.
Who are you? Are you from the NCAA, because that's what they said pretty much verbatim.
 
It was the refs fault the scorers table had a hand up telling him they were not ready and he never looked. The clock was never started at the table therefore it's dead time. You cant use a stopwatch or any other timing device.
The 2nd Ref is there for a reason and he should have notified the main ref immediately that the clock did not start. If the 2nd ref is not paying attention to the scorers table and the clock then he is not doing his job.
 
Who are you? Are you from the NCAA, because that's what they said pretty much verbatim.
He’s not wrong and their explanation/interpretation m is probably true. The rule is just completely ridiculous.
 
The 2nd Ref is there for a reason and he should have notified the main ref immediately that the clock did not start. If the 2nd ref is not paying attention to the scorers table and the clock then he is not doing his job.
The 2nd ref job is to watch the clock correct. But its the whistle job to look at the scores table to make sure they're ready. The whistle messed up first and then the 2nd didn't watch the clock. It's like blaming the waitress for your steak not being done that's the cooks fault
 
He’s not wrong and their explanation/interpretation m is probably true. The rule is just completely ridiculous.
I agree the rule is ridiculous and they should be able to watch and use a stopwatch to get it right. In some situations the clock will start at the scorers table but not on the actual score board when that happens then the use the scorers table clock. In this situation the table never started the clock.
 
I think the tough part is knowing when and when not to use the stop watch.

For example, if there’s 15 seconds left in a match and a guy is going for a take down and the ref notices the error 5 seconds in, do you restart with 10 seconds? Because that’s not really fair to the guy going for the take down. His plan of attack is interrupted and now has to restart, and he’s lost 33% of his time for no fault of his own.
 
It was the refs fault the scorers table had a hand up telling him they were not ready and he never looked. The clock was never started at the table therefore it's dead time. You cant use a stopwatch or any other timing device.

How is it reviewable then?
 
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