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Carroo's decison to return

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6 WR's taken in the first round. He was given a "pre" grade as high as the 5th best WR in this years draft class. With 6 WR's off the board it looks like Caroo would have almost guaranteed himself a 2nd round pick. Now he's returning with a brand new little to no experience QB(s) and statisticly his number are likely to decline with a new QB. Remember Nova and Carroo played together since high school. Not to mention teams may double team him based on his performance last year. Can only hope his decison pays off for him.
 
I hope it pays off too, but from an article posted a couple months (weeks?) ago, his decision was based largely on his buddy (Darius Hamilton) asking him to stay, not necessarily a financial analysis.
 
I hope it pays off too, but from an article posted a couple months (weeks?) ago, his decision was based largely on his buddy (Darius Hamilton) asking him to stay, not necessarily a financial analysis.
I wasn't looking at it as a fincianial standpoint but the theory he could be picked later next year. Next years WR class can be very good too and could have just as many WR's taken. Plus Carroo will get a combine invite and can prove himself there as well like West Virginias Kevin White did.
 
i think he's nuts, especially given Nova is gone, but this is obviously a very deep, very talented draft at WR which no doubt led to his decision to return.
 
Caroo is insanely talented. NFL scouts are sophisticated enough, and watch enough video on potential first round picks to know how good a player is. His draft status is not going to be negatively impacted by playing with a new QB.


Completely agree, but potentially having a bad year can't help imo. I think the kids a rare breed and should have left
 
Caroo is insanely talented. NFL scouts are sophisticated enough, and watch enough video on potential first round picks to know how good a player is. His draft status is not going to be negatively impacted by playing with a new QB.
Bingo...also, let's try and appreciate/reinforce the kid's decision to stay all 4 years vs. chase the $$. Those two will get their money and make it to the next level. Wonderful to have them back.
 
Staying to play as a senior can only help his resume and value. Just like it did for Brian Leonard. The coaches and their NFL contacts put a lot of credit for players that mature in college. Posters are dumb to even start a thread like this
 
The OP's idea that Caroo was going that high seems off to me. I think very few scouts actually had Caroo as the fifth best receiver if he had turned pro this year.
 
The OP's idea that Caroo was going that high seems off to me. I think very few scouts actually had Caroo as the fifth best receiver if he had turned pro this year.

I agree. I thought you get a round grade, not a positional grade. I think they told him he'd be RD. 3-5 and suggested returning. (He also got some feedback to work on his route running too I believe. Just to make it crisper.)

REGARDLESS, I'm thrilled he came back and he's a helluva talent and young man!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Probably Carroo persuaded Darius Hamilton to come to Rutgers and now Darius asked Carroo to stay an extra year.
 
The OP is wrong. Carroo was told that he was slated at best to the third round....even with a poor QB playing, I think he is going to be (sans any injuries) in a better position this upcoming draft. Also, I think the other WRs are going to be better this season Agudosi, Tsymis and Patton so he may not be double covered this upcoming season.
 
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I don't want to downplay the Hamilton thing. If nothing else it makes a great story but if Carroo did anything other than what was best for him I'd be disappointed.

I too seem to remember his NFL evaluation was he would not be a 1st or 2nd round pick. Starting this year the NFL doesn't give 3rd or later round grades. You now get no evaluation because the league doesn't want all these kids coming out early. In 2014 there were over 100 early entries.
 
The OP is wrong. Carroo was told that he was slated at best to the third round....even with a poor QB playing, I think he is going to be (sans any injuries) in a better position this upcoming draft. Also, I think the other WRs are going to be better this season Agudosi, Tsymis and Patton so he may not be double covered this upcoming season.
And throw Janarious Grant into the mix....our QB will just have to get the ball to them.
 
Caroo does not need a great year statistically to be a 1st or a 2nd rounder next year. He just has to show that he can be a contributor even if the QB is not good. NFL scouts know that he put up his stat against good competition and perhaps an average QB.
 
Your draft grade is NOT the reason you should decide to declare and I wish they could show the public how they even come up with it. Juwan Jamison and Brandon Coleman are some of the most recent Scarlet Knights who got anywhere from 3rd to 5th round draft grades and their draft days did not go well at all.
 
OP is off on this Caroo only caught balls from one QB in his entire life HS and college he now can show case himself as a guy who can catch any QBs passes. he was #2 in the B10 last year he will get a lot of PR at the start of the season. and against the early teams he will look good no matter how off the QB play is. His B1G exposure will only help him move up in his draft status. And if he does not catch as many balls it will fall on poor QB play or being double teamed
This is a win win for Caroo. More exposure, more RP from B1G, will = higher draft next year and more money
 
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Staying to play as a senior can only help his resume and value. Just like it did for Brian Leonard. The coaches and their NFL contacts put a lot of credit for players that mature in college. Posters are dumb to even start a thread like this
Yea I'm so dumb. Fu
 
As I recall, the consensus among draft analysts had Carroo rated closer to #10 than #5. And looking at next year's class of WRs, it doesn't appear to bee ad deep as 2015. I realize it's early, but Rob Rang (a highly respected draft analyst) has Carroo at #5 for 2016.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2016/WR

So I don't think he has done anything to injure his prospects
 
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As I recall, the consensus among draft analysts had Carroo rated closer to #10 than #5. And looking at next year's class of WRs, it doesn't appear to bee ad deep as 2015. I realize it's early, but Rob Rang (a highly respected draft analyst) has Carroo at #5 for 2016.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2016/WR

So I don't think he has done anything to injure his prospects

This seems like the clearest picture. Thus year he would have been likely a late third round pick. Next year he is an early second round pick.
 
6 WR's taken in the first round. He was given a "pre" grade as high as the 5th best WR in this years draft class. With 6 WR's off the board it looks like Caroo would have almost guaranteed himself a 2nd round pick. Now he's returning with a brand new little to no experience QB(s) and statisticly his number are likely to decline with a new QB. Remember Nova and Carroo played together since high school. Not to mention teams may double team him based on his performance last year. Can only hope his decison pays off for him.


Having now reached my 40's I have finally realized that patience is rarely penalized. Whether that be in your career, you marriage, etc.
 
Yea I'm so dumb. Fu

I agree. I don't think it was a dumb post. At least you stimuated some RUTGERS FOOTBALL discussion. Don't let it get to you. Got to have a thick skin on this site...well anywhere folks get to use a keyboard.

First goal this year is to get the B10 to accurately acknowledge his skills....
 
As I recall, the consensus among draft analysts had Carroo rated closer to #10 than #5. And looking at next year's class of WRs, it doesn't appear to bee ad deep as 2015. I realize it's early, but Rob Rang (a highly respected draft analyst) has Carroo at #5 for 2016.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2016/WR

So I don't think he has done anything to injure his prospects

Holy Crap. That list of WR's looks pretty awful, I'm not sure how he is 5th on that list, but whatever. All things considered he could end up being one of the first 3 WRs taken, which could be anywhere from Middle of Rd 1 to Middle of Rd 2. Which would be sweet.

EDIT: I looked further into his rankings. This guy has Lumpkin as the 27th best tackle prospect for 2016. That's complete nonsense. And I totally get that injury is a big concern here. But I personally have a hard time believing Paul James is the 97th best running back. Quentin Gause as the 53rd best OLB? Steve Longa isn't even on the list for OLB or ILB. I will agree with his grade of Darius being the 8th best DT. Djwany Mera as the 64th ranked DE.
 
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Yea I'm so dumb. Fu

I do not think you are dumb and in fact think you and most of us on this board are very smart. I just think that a post second guessing Carroo's decision, that Carroo will read, is dumb. A lot of topics here are dumb to me. I love you guy, peace.
 
What was his avg grade? It was mentioned he was rated as high as the 5th best WR in the class but what were the other ratings? Is he the 10th, 15th, or 20th best WR? If his avg grade was like 15th best WR then he may fall to the 5th or 6th round since some teams may decide to choose receivers rated lower who may be taller (your know those 6 6 and 6 7 receivers many teams use on 3rd downs).
 
He's playing another year of football for our cherished college team so just be glad he decided to stay in school. I'm happy for us and for him. He's one of our only true superstars. I am a fan of RU football, I do not care what round a player may or may not be drafted in. If he is good enough the NFL scouts will have it all figured out regardless of what year he goes pro or what the competition is. Financially it will all work out for him. Maybe Carroo really enjoys his total college experience and that largely influenced his decision to play another year of football for Rutgers, Whatever his motivation, to insinuate that he may have made a mistake based only on NFL draft positioning is very misguided.
 
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You only get to go to college once and only play 4 years. Enjoy life and get that degree. He was not a 1st or 2nd rounder so initial money potentially lost is not a significant factor. He made the choice he thought was correct at the time and should never regret it.
 
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It's good he's staying! He'll have a degree to fall back on when his playing career is over.
 
You know a lot of players at other schools stay for 4 or 5 years. Only at Rutgers does everyone automatically leave in 3 years if the NFL caliber.
 
He wasn't considered near one of the top 5 WRs this year. More like in the 10-15 range. Probably 3-4 round at best. He'll go higher next year. He'll improve and the class is probably not going to be this good.
 
Steve Longa isn't even on the list for OLB or ILB.

He has Longa staying for his red shirt senior year (from his pen to God's ear) and has him as the #8 OLB in the 2017 draft. With respect to James, he's a Top 10 talent but has he played more than 2/3s of a season since his Jr. year in HS?
 
Interesting tidbit from the CBS 2016 draft prospect- The weights of DT #1-10: 290, 288, 274, 325, 320, 288, 292, 260, 323, 303. I think we can all spot the Scarlet Knight there.
 
He has Longa staying for his red shirt senior year (from his pen to God's ear) and has him as the #8 OLB in the 2017 draft. With respect to James, he's a Top 10 talent but has he played more than 2/3s of a season since his Jr. year in HS?

No and I get that. But the 97th best running back? C'mon man. I would ve relatively surprised if Longa stayed for his final season. That would be cool tho.
 
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