Its funny because its so sad...the guy is a complete moron
Clueless Flood plays for fg
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I can't remember - when trying a 49-yd FG, is it better to have the wind at your back or better to be kicking into the wind? I'm not a FBS head coach so I have no clue.
Need 3 td's to win. Career long fg attempt into the wind instead of going for it makes sense only if you are an oompa loompa.
Strictly by the book, on a failed fg attempt they take over from the spot of the kick. If you go for it and gain 5, they take over 12 yds further back.. Fg attempt is worse choice in any outcome
Well that's assuming automatic failure. While both are low probability I don't know that you can just assume failure and say well it's 7yds difference from spot of kick. Who's to say they gain anything, it could just as easily go incomplete or who's to say we don't take a sack and lose those same 7yds or more. I can't fault either decision there.
You're splitting hairs. It's 6 of one, half dozen of the other. Lots of things to criticize, this is nitpicking IMO.
Bullsh&t What the hell is he supposed to do? Go for it. It was a no win situation. There were other things beforehand that decided this game.
That is a pu$$y move to go for the FG. Absolutely gutless, heartless, and shows how little Flood must care about this team and the kids on it.
Bac , why are you posting this? You said you would not care about this season after the pen state game .
I wouldn't say that either, although I think most coaches do go for whatever score they may need at the moment. Down 10 need FG/TD combo whichever one comes first they take. Down 17 need FG in there somewhere, same thing whichever opportunity comes first they take.
That being said to me this is splitting hairs. 49yd FG into the wind with a shaky FG kicker vs 4th and 20 with a shaky qb. There are tons of things to go after this isn't a big one to me. Like I said 6 of one, half dozen of the other.
Exactly. Down 17. You go for the first down/TD. Why the hell are you kicking?? That's just dumb and, like I said, gutless. What good does kicking serve you, especially a career long into the wind??
Do some of you guys not understand the basics of football? No matter who the coach was the decision was : Go for it on 4th and 20 and most likely NOT convert (low probability of getting 20 + yards) and keep it a 3 score game OR go for the long low probability field goal and potentially make it a 2 score game. Let me ask you guys this: at what yardage field goal would you have NOT criticized the call? 45? Cause at 45 it's a no brainier decision that you take the points and make it a 2 score game.
Jesus guys. Know when to criticize something so you don't make your other posts look dumb too. And, Flood should get canned tomorrow for the record. I'm just pointing out that this was not a bad call to try to cut it to 2 possessions.
Jesus guys. Know when to criticize something so you don't make your other posts look dumb too. And, Flood should get canned tomorrow for the record. I'm just pointing out that this was not a bad call to try to cut it to 2 possessions.
Cut it to two possessions with 3:00 to go needing two onside kicks? You go for the damn TD. Our chances of winning are less than 1% at that point. You're playing for pride, not for victory and you kick a FG?? No. You go for the TD and regain whatever pride you've lost because the way Flood has coached he's lost a lot of it.
Ray, Carlin, and EL would beg to disagree, at that point it was a three score game, so they argued a FG was needed anyway, so no issue going for it there. Wasn't it 4th and 20?
My choice would have been to not been down 21-0 in the 2nd quarter and have the offense move the ball through the air against a team that couldn't cover a toddler bed with a 20-foot quilt all year long.
It's amazing how Indiana takes Michigan into 2 OT's while we get ran out of the stadium. Purdue throws for 600 yard against Nebraska while all of our "talent and depth" gets held to the lowest point total on the year by a bad Nebraska defense...but some people will blame the fans, the refs, the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker before looking at the guys in headsets.
Joe P.
It's amazing how Indiana takes Michigan into 2 OT's while we get ran out of the stadium. Purdue throws for 600 yard against Nebraska while all of our "talent and depth" gets held to the lowest point total on the year by a bad Nebraska defense...but some people will blame the fans, the refs, the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker before looking at the guys in headsets.
Joe P.
Flood is a horrible coach, but that is the better of two awful options.
Laviano and his rag arm has less of a chance of getting 20 in a known passing situation then the almost as bad Federico hitting a bomb into the wind. And we needed 3 scores.
It was the best choice in that bad situation.
Laviano and his rag arm has less of a chance of getting 20 in a known passing situation then the almost as bad Federico hitting a bomb into the wind. And we needed 3 scores.
It was the best choice in that bad situation.
It's not just the wind but the cold that makes the fg attempt futile. Completing a 20 yd pass is much more likely.
The bigger issue was how little sense of urgency there was. The offense was taking their sweet time on the drive. I was sitting with a Nebraska fan who could not believe RU was still huddling and taking up so much time on every play.
With Laviano? I disagree. Neither has a snowballs chance. Their would be pinning their ears back, and we can't pass block and Laviano has a rag arm. It would have been a sack at best or underneath completion at best.
It was the wrong move because Federico had a zero percent chance of making the kick. Even extra points are iffy with him, let alone kicks 30 yards or higher in cold weather against the wind. Pathetic but true.
The game was over. Throw a Hail Mary to show your players you're playing this game for touchdowns and then move on toward the Army season.
The game was over. Throw a Hail Mary to show your players you're playing this game for touchdowns and then move on toward the Army season.
I do not like to pile on but Flood is just trying to keep the score respectable with a FG to keep his job. Pathetic. And no excuses for this defensive secondary, the 1st string sucked before they went on a crime spree. No talent here and that is because Flood cannot recruit quality depth. But..all is good in RU football land for most of the what is on the menu Tailgate fans.
78--if makeable, maybe. But with his range if may have well been from a half mile away. If your kick lands so far short, it was a ridiculous try. Embarrassing actually.
Did you ever see a kick land so far short ?
Did you ever see a kick land so far short ?
We are splitting hairs over two things that were both unlikely to ever happen. We needed a score, so for that reason, you go for it.
Laviano throwing a 20 yard pass on an obvious throwing down is hail mary odds, as was the fg attempt. Two poor options.
Laviano throwing a 20 yard pass on an obvious throwing down is hail mary odds, as was the fg attempt. Two poor options.
Cali...not splitting hairs because Hail Mary odds are greater than zero. CL can actually throw the ball far enough. KF would have needed one kick and then another from where the first kick landed
Regardless, and more importantly, going for three there sends the wrong message to the team.
Regardless, and more importantly, going for three there sends the wrong message to the team.
So what plays are you dialing up on 4th and 20? If it was 4th and 5 I would agree going for it would have been the play.
This guy called a fake punt from his OWN 30, 3rd quarter, only down 14. That's ALL you need to know.
