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ESPN article link on RU's bowl outlook

No mention of allen because he has thrown 3 passes in 3 yrs. it would be both a desperate move and a miracle if he starts. Rutgers bowls hopes are slim at best, tough schedule, new coach, no proven QB, unproven LBers, punting? Anyway I think Ash makes the yr to be exciting with some good hard nose defense.
 
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I think we have a good shot at a bowl. Definitely better than MD and Indiana. We have a bunch of winnable non-conference games. We can also beat Michigan (did it before), MSU (lost everyone good) and PSU (no QB and bad line).
 
Games against Minnesota, pen st and Iowa will be close and we could/should beat Indiana (replacing sudfield and Howard), Maryland (we are better than them all over the field), new mex (tougher game than it appears - they return a lot of starters), Illinois and Howard.
Mich state will be replacing a ton of guys, including their qb for the last 16 seasons, Connor cook.
Osu loses the most talent and will 100% be weaker than last year .
Michigan plays their first 5 games at home before traveling to Piscataway for a prime time showdown. They have talent but also lost some key players and will have a new qb. I've seen Kyle flood beat Michigan ...

we have missed one bowl game in the last 5 years. There is a new staff in town and we have some experienced talent in key spots - enough with the gloom and doom.

6-7 wins this year. I wouldn't be shocked at 8, but we'd have to sweep Maryland and pen st to end the year.
 
Split Washington/PSU (I think Washington is WAAAAAAY overrated)
New Mexico
Howard
Indiana
Illinois
Maryland

If we somehow make the bowl, is is what has to happen, unless we get some big time upsets
 
I think we have a good shot at a bowl. Definitely better than MD and Indiana. We have a bunch of winnable non-conference games. We can also beat Michigan (did it before), MSU (lost everyone good) and PSU (no QB and bad line).

You beat Michigan in 2014 when their program was teetering on the edge of oblivion with Hoke as coach. When RU beat them, they were coming off a stretch of games where they got embarrassed by Utah, Minnesota in consecutive weeks. With Harbaugh, I think RU has no shot to beat UM this year.

MSU and PSU are potential wins but MSU on the road will likely be tough but RU does get PSU at home. Splitting those two games seems most likely.
 
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09/03/16 at Washington Toss Up
09/10/16 vs. Howard Win
09/17/16 vs. New Mexico Win
09/24/16 vs. Iowa Loss
10/01/16 at Ohio State Loss
10/08/16 vs. Michigan Loss
10/15/16 vs. Illinois Win
10/22/16 at Minnesota Win
11/05/16 vs. Indiana Win
11/12/16 at Michigan State Loss
11/19/16 vs. Penn State Loss
11/26/16 at Maryland Win

6-7 wins is best case scenario in my mind. Just my 2 cents
 
Washington is a 23 point favorite! 23! That's a toss up? Lol

Maybe he is just very confuse and think we are playing Washington State again instead of pre-season top ten and favorite to win the Pac-12 and make the playoffs Washington?

That is the only way I can make sense of that one.
 
You beat Michigan in 2014 when their program was teetering on the edge of oblivion with Hoke as coach. When RU beat them, they were coming off a stretch of games where they got embarrassed by Utah, Minnesota in consecutive weeks. With Harbaugh, I think RU has no shot to beat UM this year.

MSU and PSU are potential wins but MSU on the road will likely be tough but RU does get PSU at home. Splitting those two games seems most likely.

True, but just repeat after me: Kyle Flood beat Michigan. Not saying we beat UM this year but dude...Kyle Flood beat Michigan. UM with all those 4 and 5 star recruits. Hoke may have been bad but don't act like we had some big coaching advantage and lord knows we were certainly overmatched from a talent standpoint. Can't believe a ND fan is making excuses for Michigan here lol. Must be a blue blood thing.

I look at it this way.

@Washington, Howard, New Mexico: Win 2 out of 3.

Illinois, Indiana, @Minnesota: Win 2 out of 3.

Penn State and @Maryland: win 1 of 2.

Finish 5-7

Outside chance (less than 30%) of upsetting Iowa at home (they don't realize how live of an opponent we are in our building...they can ask Michigan, Arkansas and Michigan state) OR Mich State on road if they take a MAJOR step back this year.

Not beating OSU or UM.
 
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09/03/16 at Washington Toss Up
09/10/16 vs. Howard Win
09/17/16 vs. New Mexico Win
09/24/16 vs. Iowa Loss
10/01/16 at Ohio State Loss
10/08/16 vs. Michigan Loss
10/15/16 vs. Illinois Win
10/22/16 at Minnesota Win
11/05/16 vs. Indiana Win
11/12/16 at Michigan State Loss
11/19/16 vs. Penn State Loss
11/26/16 at Maryland Win

6-7 wins is best case scenario in my mind. Just my 2 cents
We are not yet at the point where we can expect to run the table on Illinois, Minnesota, Indiana, and Maryland. Every one of those teams looks at Rutgers as a very winnable game. Also, having Illinois, Minny, and Indiana, back to back to back doesn't make it any easier. That would be a major accomplishment coming off of the Iowa, Ohio State, and Michigan games. Not only are we projected to lose those games, but we are undoubtedly going to lose a few key players along the way. 4-5 wins would be a very good season given the mess the new coach inherited.
 
I think we have a good shot at a bowl. Definitely better than MD and Indiana. We have a bunch of winnable non-conference games. We can also beat Michigan (did it before), MSU (lost everyone good) and PSU (no QB and bad line).
Sometimes you think they are losing everything but it turns out the backups end up becoming even better.
 
We are not yet at the point where we can expect to run the table on Illinois, Minnesota, Indiana, and Maryland. Every one of those teams looks at Rutgers as a very winnable game. Also, having Illinois, Minny, and Indiana, back to back to back doesn't make it any easier. That would be a major accomplishment coming off of the Iowa, Ohio State, and Michigan games. Not only are we projected to lose those games, but we are undoubtedly going to lose a few key players along the way. 4-5 wins would be a very good season given the mess the new coach inherited.
No, fans are just not at that point in believing Rutgers can run the table. If you ever said something like that to a player, it's WW3. When you sit in on meeting and start to break down opposing teams you see all types of weaknesses. No team is super great especially teams we matchup well against. I truly believe Rutgers will go at least 3-1 against this group.

If you doubt things from the beginning, no matter how much you try to change it's too late.
 
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We are not yet at the point where we can expect to run the table on Illinois, Minnesota, Indiana, and Maryland. Every one of those teams looks at Rutgers as a very winnable game. Also, having Illinois, Minny, and Indiana, back to back to back doesn't make it any easier. That would be a major accomplishment coming off of the Iowa, Ohio State, and Michigan games. Not only are we projected to lose those games, but we are undoubtedly going to lose a few key players along the way. 4-5 wins would be a very good season given the mess the new coach inherited.

Read the part where it says best case scenario. Its a prediction, with zero basis just like yours. No need for the lecture.
 
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No fans are just not at that point in believing Rutgers can run the table. If you ever said something like that to a player, it's WW3. We you set in on meeting and start to break down opposing teams you see all types of weaknesses. No team is super great especially teams we matchup well against. I truly believe Rutgers will go at least 3-1 against this group.

If you doubt things from the beginning, no matter how much you try to change it's too late.

Exactly. The only teams on the schedule that are out of our league are OSU and UM. Beating MSU on the road toward the end of a grueling schedule likely won't be happening this year either. And while we will probably lose at Washington, there is a chance they have been somewhat overrated and we may be able to compete with them. Remember, there is still ZERO game film on our players in these schemes. It's why week 1 is always dicey, especially for favored teams. We had no business losing that opener at Illinois in 2005 yet we still did. And it's not that I disrespect Iowa but I'd be shocked if they register double digit wins in back to back years and we have them in our building. If we were going out to Kinnick we'd get our ass handed to us.
 
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True, but just repeat after me: Kyle Flood beat Michigan. Not saying we beat UM this year but dude...Kyle Flood beat Michigan. UM with all those 4 and 5 star recruits. Hoke may have been bad but don't act like we had some big coaching advantage and lord knows we were certainly overmatched from a talent standpoint.

Yes, Kyle Flood beat a 5-7 Michigan team whose signature win of the season was beating a (7-6) PA St team at home by 5 points. That's not the same team that will be on the field in 2016.
 
I hope for 5 wins this season and keep the recruiting momentum going
Before the season starts I'm an eternal optimist, I hope RU wins every game they play.
Ridiculous way to think, yes, but I defend my ridiculous optimistic outlook ( before the season starts) with this defense : "Upsets happen" and I never will claim to be realistic when it comes to my RU FB fanhood.
 
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Before the season starts I'm an eternal optimist, I hope RU wins every game they play.
Ridiculous way to think, yes, but I defend my ridiculous optimistic outlook ( before the season starts) with this defense : "Upsets happen" and I never will claim to be realistic when it comes to my RU FB fanhood.

What he said!!!
 
The line is BS.
Washington was 6-6 last year in the very down PAC 12.
Look for an RU win.
Washington is a solid team at home, but overall they aren't the cream of the crop in the Pac 12. Their record has been almost a mirror image of Rutgers the last 5 seasons. They average 7 wins during this period with the one exception (2013) when they won 9 games. Will Rutgers win the game? I don't know, but Rutgers isn't losing by 20+ points. That spread is based on the name on the front of the jersey and perception.
 
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