Football Injuries

[albanyknight]

Are injuries ruining football? The last three years, the Giants as one example, have been completely destroyed by injuries. It seems like each year the list of injuries grows longer and longer, not just for the Giants but across the board in both college and the pros.

The team that ends up winning the Super Bowl is usually the team that has the least amount of injuries. Football has become winning by attrition.

I know injuries have always been a part of the game but it seems to get worse with each passing year. The Will Smith movie will be out next week based on the book League of Denial which proves that football players and CTE are linked.

On one hand, most of us live for and love football but on the other hand, the violence of the sport gives pause to just what we are supporting as fans.

My question for discussion is how people feel about the issue; does it affect your love of the game and do changes need to be made going forward to insure the continued success and appeal of the game?

 

[Nosoj]

My question for discussion is how people feel about the issue; does it affect your love of the game and do changes need to be made going forward to insure the continued success and appeal of the game?

No, it doesn't affect me at all right now. Grown men have the option of walking away if they choose to.

The problem, and where it may affect me, is when we get some conclusive evidence one way or the other on affects of CTE (if any) at lower levels.

 

[saran]

Players get hurt more because of no practice, drugs, too much heavy weight training.

Playing strengthens muscles, tendons etc in ways gym workouts cant. If a player is going to work to put on 30 lbs and bench 400 and then only play full contact in games then injuries will happen - things are out of whack. Plus with guys doing drugs to grow they get even more over-jacked. Then there is pushing limits. A player often trains to failure. That produces gains. Now when a player is young he has a lot of room to grow. Eventually though a player gets to limit of normal gains. If he keeps working out near physical limitations with heavy weights he's adding lots of stress. Just because a sports car can hit 175mph it doesn't mean you can drive it at that speed all the time. The more you drive it at upper limit the faster you'll get some breakdown. Guys are playing heavier/stronger outside the range of what would be optimal. NFL is plagued with Achilles issues..

Concussions on the other hand are the new global warming. Junk science, politics, greed etc are uniting to create a fake "crisis". Practically everyone has tau protein that gets blamed on football especially. Sugar, alcohol, diabetes, drugs, Alzheimers etc - all these create tau. The focus on football is silly. Obama says he wouldn't let his son play football but he just ordered woman be put in ALL combat roles despite failing the tests. That's bizarre and its a political motivation on both counts.

The first "studies" that lead to hype were very limited and rushed to media instead of other researchers. The people hyping "research" also are involved in testing ($) that they want all schools to have to use. There are lawyers that want to sue everyone. The whole things is a racket. This balogna movie coming out is trying to make this nobody doctor into some kind of Erin Brockovich and its all Styrofoam


Consensus Statement on Concussion in Sport
The 4th International Conference on Concussion in Sport Held in Zurich, November 2012


Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy

Clinicians need to be mindful of the potential for long-term problems in the management of all athletes. However, it was agreed that chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) represents a distinct tauopathy with an unknown incidence in athletic populations. It was further agreed that a cause and effect relationship has not as yet been demonstrated between CTE and concussions or exposure to contact sports.[105–114] At present, the interpretation of causation in the modern CTE case studies should proceed cautiously. It was also recognised that it is important to address the fears of parents/athletes from media pressure related to the possibility of CTE.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/781420_3


Playing more football doesn’t increase teenagers’ risk of brain damage, according to a new study.
http://www.healthline.com/health-news/football-doesnt-increase-brain-damage-risk-031414

 

[PSU_Nut]

Players get hurt more because of no practice, drugs, too much heavy weight training.

Playing strengthens muscles, tendons etc in ways gym workouts cant. If a player is going to work to put on 30 lbs and bench 400 and then only play full contact in games then injuries will happen - things are out of whack. Plus with guys doing drugs to grow they get even more over-jacked. Then there is pushing limits. A player often trains to failure. That produces gains. Now when a player is young he has a lot of room to grow. Eventually though a player gets to limit of normal gains. If he keeps working out near physical limitations with heavy weights he's adding lots of stress. Just because a sports car can hit 175mph it doesn't mean you can drive it at that speed all the time. The more you drive it at upper limit the faster you'll get some breakdown. Guys are playing heavier/stronger outside the range of what would be optimal. NFL is plagued with Achilles issues..

Concussions on the other hand are the new global warming. Junk science, politics, greed etc are uniting to create a fake "crisis". Practically everyone has tau protein that gets blamed on football especially. Sugar, alcohol, diabetes, drugs, Alzheimers etc - all these create tau. The focus on football is silly. Obama says he wouldn't let his son play football but he just ordered woman be put in ALL combat roles despite failing the tests. That's bizarre and its a political motivation on both counts.

The first "studies" that lead to hype were very limited and rushed to media instead of other researchers. The people hyping "research" also are involved in testing ($) that they want all schools to have to use. There are lawyers that want to sue everyone. The whole things is a racket. This balogna movie coming out is trying to make this nobody doctor into some kind of Erin Brockovich and its all Styrofoam


Consensus Statement on Concussion in Sport
The 4th International Conference on Concussion in Sport Held in Zurich, November 2012


Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy

Clinicians need to be mindful of the potential for long-term problems in the management of all athletes. However, it was agreed that chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) represents a distinct tauopathy with an unknown incidence in athletic populations. It was further agreed that a cause and effect relationship has not as yet been demonstrated between CTE and concussions or exposure to contact sports.[105–114] At present, the interpretation of causation in the modern CTE case studies should proceed cautiously. It was also recognised that it is important to address the fears of parents/athletes from media pressure related to the possibility of CTE.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/781420_3


Playing more football doesn’t increase teenagers’ risk of brain damage, according to a new study.
http://www.healthline.com/health-news/football-doesnt-increase-brain-damage-risk-031414

I agree far more concussion research needs to be done. It shock journalism right now. I want to know when did the damage happen. These athlete that have been diagnosed with it are also often that crazy kid who would run his head into things for fun. How do we know that the damage was not then. I also think we tend to ignore other items and quickly blame sports. If a young football player commits suicide or does something stupid the media and family often point to head injuries. They however ignore that many mental illnesses that have high destructive and suicidal behaviors first present themselves in early adult hood.

 

[saran]

I agree far more concussion research needs to be done. It shock journalism right now. I want to know when did the damage happen. These athlete that have been diagnosed with it are also often that crazy kid who would run his head into things for fun. How do we know that the damage was not then. I also think we tend to ignore other items and quickly blame sports. If a young football player commits suicide or does something stupid the media and family often point to head injuries. They however ignore that many mental illnesses that have high destructive and suicidal behaviors first present themselves in early adult hood.

Yes - Bret Favre was talking about memory issues and wondering about concussions. However he was addicted to pain killers (45 days in rehab), spent years as an alcoholic and crashed a car into a tree (lost over a foot of intestine).

People also should not underestimate the political motives. There are political, intellectual groups that always hated football. Some of them see it as "masculine hegemony" and part of the "patriarchy", religion and all that rot. Football is central to US culture on many levels and the radicals (like Obama) would like to see it diminished. Make no mistake - football is quite specifically under attack and with movie premier you will see an across the board media onslaught that will be organized and by no means organic.Boys have to be emasculated and girls have to be butched out. That's why boys "shouldn't play football" but Obama is shoe-horning girls into combat despite massive failure in tests. I mean its ok with him to get people killed and battles lost. Its insane. As Norries Wilson said "Let your babies play football"