Stop!!! Seriously! If we fire Flood, it won't be until the end of the season. The thing I noticed about the RU statement about the Gofundme page was that Julie did not say that Kyle is our coach (I think). It was more about them distancing themselves from us, than it was them praising Kyle as our coach. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it may be over in two weeks
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Also, if you want to help make Julie's decision easier, don't renew your tickets or donate until last minute.
am amazed that some want Julie to make a statement on this crapfest before she fires Flood...yet the clueless keep doing it.
I want her to say, "I understand the frustration that our fans feel about the horrible on-field results, off-field problems, and inadequate recruiting. At the end of the season, I'll evaluate this terrible season and decide if we want to keep this loser."
Teams rarely do that. Come on. Julie doesn't owe us a statement. However, she'll owe us a huge explanation if he's not let go after the season.
no one's "mad" at Julie--people want results and not excuses from those enamored with her
Actually you are very mad at her
Your hatred for her oozes through the words in your posts
Carry on hater...
There is a reason that RU asks you to enroll early in your renewals for the end of December. It gives them an idea of expectations for tickets and glad they started it. This way they can see if there an issue with season tickets(potentially due to a coach). I would bet this all gets settled after th season
I'm no fan of Julie. But the fact she isn't saying anything, says it all. Goodbye Kyle have fun teaching high school math again.
Poor math students, the only numbers they'll ever see is 1 and 0.
Can we all agree though if Flood is NOT fired at the end of the season, then we all CAN be very, very mad at Julie. Sound good?
Let's just keep in mind this is the same AD that managed to get Kyle Flood an extension.
Let's just keep in mind this is the same AD that managed to get Kyle Flood an extension.
That was supposedly done for optics and was privately funded because KF complained that he couldn't recruit without a show of good faith that he'd be here beyond this season. Turns out he still can't recruit so that was a waste but yeah, she extended him so that's on her. But I have faith that she will do the right thing when the time comes.
Actually, I had no problem with the extension. I didn't see anyone complaining about it after last year either. It's playing both sides of the fence. The extension isn't the problem, it's how does it affect your financial flexibility. It was privately funded so I would think that it didn't hurt our long term financial flexibility. So you're covered for either outcome. If Flood works out he's got security with recruiting and if he doesn't you're long term financial flexibility isn't harmed so you can let him go.
Hey, he be a great computer sci teacher.
I never said I do or do not want him fired-- that's the problem with the typical mob mentality--you attack those that want reasonable decisions made and won't join the lynch mob --what I want is decision makers to make thought out decisions and not just react--frankly I'm not sure Julie is capable or willing to do so--time will tell
my hatred oozes?--what a dumb uninformed comment--you have no idea what someone thinks
If Julie is mostly doing nothing - just sitting around playing solitaire on her computer - then she is not going to be inclined to lift a finger to do anything before she absolutely has to ... if then.
But if she is actually working on designing & executing a comprehensive overhaul of the football staff - why would she want to set off a time devouring crap-storm that would come from firing Flood now? She would wait til the season is over - She & Rutgers would gain virtually nothing by doing it now - and it would put the whole search process intensely under the microscope ... she would be incessantly bombarded with inquires about the firing - and the whole situation would instantly be high profile - exactly when she would want to be low-key and operating in comparative obscurity - exclusively focused on working through the process of making a change.
If a change is going to be made - let there be no more than 24 hours between a Flood departure and the announcement of the leader of the next chapter of RU Football - because the cynical side of me sees any extended period before a new HC is determined as a chance for the various manipulative meddlesome opportunists (politicians, academic factions, media gadflys) to insert themselves into the process & hold things hostage / try to get something out of it.
But if she is actually working on designing & executing a comprehensive overhaul of the football staff - why would she want to set off a time devouring crap-storm that would come from firing Flood now? She would wait til the season is over - She & Rutgers would gain virtually nothing by doing it now - and it would put the whole search process intensely under the microscope ... she would be incessantly bombarded with inquires about the firing - and the whole situation would instantly be high profile - exactly when she would want to be low-key and operating in comparative obscurity - exclusively focused on working through the process of making a change.
If a change is going to be made - let there be no more than 24 hours between a Flood departure and the announcement of the leader of the next chapter of RU Football - because the cynical side of me sees any extended period before a new HC is determined as a chance for the various manipulative meddlesome opportunists (politicians, academic factions, media gadflys) to insert themselves into the process & hold things hostage / try to get something out of it.
Well, if nothing else, they'll all be very familiar with the binary code.
Agree with your post but this part, the 24 hours, will be hard to pull off. Of course feelers will be sent out and back channel discussions will take place prior to any firing (and word will leak like a sieve to the media), but a full blown negotiation with the new coach will likely take more than a day. If Julie gets it done in under a week I'll be impressed. The only way it happens in a day is if it is someone who is already out of a job and the candidate and RU have a strong mutual interest (e.g. Golden if the rumors are true).
OK ... 24 hours is a goal - may not quite be realistic - so give it 72 hours ... realistically whether it is 24hours, 72 hours or one week, the only way it could happen in that time frame is if there has been a huge amount of back channel communication going on to set it up -
I like following coaching but the length of time it takes for a search to play out from the firing to the hiring isn't something I've really paid attention. I'd guess anything under a week would be quick and about 2-3 weeks is probably the norm but that's just a little bit of wild guessing and trying to remember. We know a lot of firings take place pretty quickly after the season and a lot of coaches have left for their new school during the bowl season.
He could also teach " there is BOG, a president, and a AD. They paid me multiple millions of dollars. How many idiots does that total? "
I read somewhere that there are those in power at the University that don't have confidence in Julie Herman to undertake a search for a coach and to make a good hire, the intimation being that Herman may also be fired if Flood is going to be fired. What is the perception of Herman as an AD and whether she can make a good hire?
I don't buy it, but if true then just shut the whole damn thing down. Why the hell would we fire Julie? She hasn't done anything wrong (coaching wise). Are we looking for new ways to embarrasses ourselves?
Actually, I think that article was based more on speculation than substance. For whatever reason there are alot of Julie haters out there and they put out alot of misinformation. It would be easy for someone to assume that she is in trouble or tied to Fludd in some way.
Well you heard wrong! Julie is NOT tied to Flood. And yes, it will be Julie that will make this hire with the blessing of Greg Brown and the BOG. Barchi will have nothing to do with this hire.
I also don't believe there is any substance to that. I think that is TP lover misinformation, that was picked up by the SL and nj.com.
I also don't believe there is any substance to that. I think that is TP lover misinformation, that was picked up by the SL and nj.com.
Nope, nope, and she's doing a pretty good job so far in the opinion of, I'd say, most. YES, there are lingering "haters," who think Tim was wronged, should get his job back, and actually wants it back, but that crowd is pretty much thinning out as the months move along.
How does the timing of that work?
Do they fire Julie today, or wait until after the Maryland game? And then how quickly do they get a new AD in place? The AD search after Pernetti took about 6 weeks.
And once a new AD is in place, how long does it take someone, first day on the job, to start and complete a coaching search?
Based on timing, I would have to guess that if there were any truth to that rumor, Julie would already be gone.
I'd think 2-3 weeks sounds about right.
Every offseason there are a number of coaches that utilize openings to 'flirt' with a new school with the goal of getting a raise/contract extension. Those dalliances often take a few days. Others that are likely to have options may wait around for all the openings to occur before choosing a destination. Lastly, you may have some coaches with bowl obligations (high profile coordinators, perhaps) or championship games (MAC coaches) that delay their availability for a while.
If our last game is November 28th, then I'd think by Christmas at the very latest, we would have our new coach.
I was able to find it. The thread discussing it is here. I guess it was Pat Forde but I believe they picked it up from Ledger.
Oh yeah. Now I remember that. As I said then, and again in this thread, that just doesn't pass the smell test.
If Julie was distrusted and going to be fired, she would have already been fired.
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