Geo Baker - 62 points tonight
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... and all he rates is 3 stars... I mean even in those elementary school days where little johnie who was better than everybody - 65 out of 87 would be hard to do .... oh well, he's ours now
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We should sign the guy that was guarding him. He can help our guys in a slump gain confidence in practice.
I gotta see the stats.....how many 3's ?
Unless he was playing against kids.....62 is impressive in any game. WOW
I gotta see the stats.....how many 3's ?
Unless he was playing against kids.....62 is impressive in any game. WOW
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Baker will be a player here. I trust that he will. I think he has great potential.
But lets provide some context here.
This is in a fun league against all the athletes that go to his school. So playing on his team are hockey players, track runners, lacrosse players, and baseball players.
It is not a basketball league. Still, Baker has the potential to become a great player here. To see this thrown around everywhere without any context though is misleading.
But lets provide some context here.
This is in a fun league against all the athletes that go to his school. So playing on his team are hockey players, track runners, lacrosse players, and baseball players.
It is not a basketball league. Still, Baker has the potential to become a great player here. To see this thrown around everywhere without any context though is misleading.
God we have some miserable basketball fans. Who cares if it doesn't mean as much. Just be happy we have someone coming in with the ability to score. He has shown that in his other games.
Enjoy
ESPN
Geo Baker
6-3 | Class of 2017
3 Star
42 POSITION
40 REGIONAL
6 STATE
ESPN Analyst
Updated 11/16/2016
Strengths:
Baker is a skilled guard who has improved at a rapid rate over the course of his high school career. He has a special ability to make shots off the dribble at a young age and his pull-up, even from long range, is really his most defining weapon. He's also a good three-point shooter off the catch, capable of playing on or off the ball and at worst a valuable secondary ball-handler. He's a versatile pick-and-roll player who is equally dangerous using the screen, where the threat of his pull-up prevents defenders from going under, as well as spotting up on the weak-side or replacing up on the strong side. He has solid speed going north to south and is also smooth with the ball.
Weaknesses:
He's not yet a finished product physically and while he can show some athleticism in the open floor, he isn't explosive in a half-court set. Right now he can get bumped off the line of his drive and needs to continue to fill out his frame and add upper body strength to allow him to play through contact on a consistent basis. He'll also need to prove he can contain more explosive and powerful guards in the Big 10.
Weaknesses:
Baker is a skilled, playmaking combo-guard with a special ability to shoot the ball off the dribble. He needs to continue to evolve physically but compensates with a competitive work ethic and proven ability to add to his game every year.
NOTES
Travel Team: New Heights...
ESPN
Geo Baker
6-3 | Class of 2017
- Hometown Boston, Mass.
- School Proctor Academy
- Position Shooting Guard
- StatusSigned Rutgers 07/27/2016
3 Star
42 POSITION
40 REGIONAL
6 STATE
ESPN Analyst
Updated 11/16/2016
Strengths:
Baker is a skilled guard who has improved at a rapid rate over the course of his high school career. He has a special ability to make shots off the dribble at a young age and his pull-up, even from long range, is really his most defining weapon. He's also a good three-point shooter off the catch, capable of playing on or off the ball and at worst a valuable secondary ball-handler. He's a versatile pick-and-roll player who is equally dangerous using the screen, where the threat of his pull-up prevents defenders from going under, as well as spotting up on the weak-side or replacing up on the strong side. He has solid speed going north to south and is also smooth with the ball.
Weaknesses:
He's not yet a finished product physically and while he can show some athleticism in the open floor, he isn't explosive in a half-court set. Right now he can get bumped off the line of his drive and needs to continue to fill out his frame and add upper body strength to allow him to play through contact on a consistent basis. He'll also need to prove he can contain more explosive and powerful guards in the Big 10.
Weaknesses:
Baker is a skilled, playmaking combo-guard with a special ability to shoot the ball off the dribble. He needs to continue to evolve physically but compensates with a competitive work ethic and proven ability to add to his game every year.
NOTES
Travel Team: New Heights...
Sorry, Ash--nothing "miserable" to my point. This shows zero ability to score in any meaningful context. It is less significant than Cory scoring 62 in an RU Intramural game. As I said--hope the kid turns out to be a star.
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Exactly. Scoring has been a major problem. It's a good thing that this kid can actually put the ball in the hoop
We're all hoping Geo does great here. But referencing his 62 points scoring effort in this type of league means nothing at all.
Keep in mind, in basketball, every team gets open looks. Baker will get open looks at Rutgers and at 6'4" with a 6'8" WingSpan he will get his shots off. The same as Williams, Sanders, Johnson and even Justin Goode a few years ago. The problem has been they missed those open looks. If this 62 points consisted of him making a ton of shots (open looks) , it's a good thing, regardless of the competition.
I've played with my peers before and scored 30 or more points in pick up games and many were with open looks and from long distance. Other games I've played with current and former D1 players and when they come down to play, I no longer have open looks and don't score much.
Posting some fun game stats are just as useful as posting his video game stats when playing NBA 2k17.
Well, a lot of us have played pick up games with friends and I would not attempt to compare that to playing in a game with current D1 or even former D1 players.
I think you missed my point. College D1 players on Rutgers teams and any team will always get open looks, including Williams, Johnson and even Justin Goode. It comes down to.... Can you make those Open Shots ? Just look at Rutgers last year, a lot of Open Shots missed, some badly.
Reminds me of the veteran ESPN College Game announcer last year who said, " The team that usually wins is the one that makes it's open shots".
I understand what you're saying but a player like Justin Goode who was supposedly a good shooter had issues getting open looks because of his speed. Even Issa Thiam had problems getting his shot off for a good portion of the B1G season at 6'9" because of the way he shoots. It's different shooting in a fun game against your high school friends than it is playing against high D1 opponents. It's not necessarily easy to get open looks against good opponents.
Hoping Geo can kick some serious ass for us.
Some fans on here are insufferable. Last I checked, I am free to post what I want that is related to RU basketball without RU Dio's clearance.
You sure are and I'm free to comment. Isn't that what these boards are for, to express our opinions?
I've only seen online video, but it was the same case with Rosario. It is funny you posted this question because I was thinking of similarities:
- knocking down open shots is obvious strength
- combo guard size but lacks Power5 handle as well as strength/body for a physical style
- fluid, but not impressive athletically
- should flourish with a balanced o but in particular likely to rely ona strong PG who can create open looks both on fast break and within sets.
Watching St A- they had the PG (Bruno?) and Tyshawn Taylor creating major mismatches and Rosario could just shoot. He was a McD AA because he was the best player on a natl powerhouse. I remember thinking Taylor looked to be the best prospect because his speed with the ball, athleticism and attitude just reminded me of Brevin Knight in h.s.
Which brings me to the last - and most important- point. I always wondered if Rosario was so good at an early age and played with such elite players, he hit his level and didn't have the drive to continue to get better. I seem to recall Hurley saying at one point he was one of the most difficult players to coach, which says a lot.
The early word on Gio is all positive; he has had a steady upward trajectory; recognized a key area that needs work & reports are that he's worked on it and made progress. There is no appearance that he is "settling" on a school like Rutgers. The impression, anyway, is that he's very "coachable".
As with all recruits, I'm cautiously optimistic and excited by what he will bring. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he makes the initial-year, contribution like Douby. In a dream scenario, things really click and he can in the same way become a bonafide scorer by his soph yr.
Obviously, that would be considered a fantastic success and, in my opinion, better for RU's future success than a "Rosario-level" recruit at the moment.
Always? What does this even mean? Should we build a team based on its ability to hit unguarded shots?
Rutgers' problem over the few years was not the inability to get open shots, it got a lot of open shots running its offense.......the problem was missing 80% of the open shots they took. I reminder game threads of guys constantly posting, "why can't Rutgers get guys that make open shots"?
Regarding that last silly comment you made; Of course not. Everyone knows you recruit guys that miss a lot of open shots.
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Baker will be a big piece going forward.
Watch Al Horford on the celtics in the last closing moments of yesterdays game. Arms out wide the whole time- making passers have to think twice.
Baker has long arms, solid height. We can be confident in our basketball staff now that players will get bigger and stronger. In the past, that was not the case.
Mike Williams was asked the question about strength coach, Dave Van Dyke. He said something along the lines of "Well last year I definitely couldn't dunk, and now I can."
Between Baker and potentially Nathan, these players will become more sturdy on their time on the banks.
Watch Al Horford on the celtics in the last closing moments of yesterdays game. Arms out wide the whole time- making passers have to think twice.
Baker has long arms, solid height. We can be confident in our basketball staff now that players will get bigger and stronger. In the past, that was not the case.
Mike Williams was asked the question about strength coach, Dave Van Dyke. He said something along the lines of "Well last year I definitely couldn't dunk, and now I can."
Between Baker and potentially Nathan, these players will become more sturdy on their time on the banks.
Is this right too? RU misses 80% of its open shots. 80%? If Mike Williams could only hit something more than 20% of his completely unguarded shots, he'd have hit those 3 three-pointers per game.
It was an exaggeration to make a point. Anyone could see that. Stop being silly.
You're immaturity is showing and it's very unbecoming for an adult.
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No kidding. And, in turn, your exaggeration was highlighted to make a point, which is that you have to exaggerate--i.e., depart from reality--to try to make your point. No matter how you choose to exaggerate, it will still be true that the level of competition significantly affects performance.
Yes, miserable fans who have been disappointed over and over again for at least the last 25 years by all kinds of promises about countless "can't miss" prospects who did mostly that, i.e., missed (Johnnie Blake anyone?). Posts about pickup games against non college hoops players are meaningless. I've watched Geo's films and I believe he has talent and will make a contribution to RU, but until we see him live against B1G competition, judgment will have to be reserved.
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