Honors College promotional video
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I must have missed something.
The video interviews a high-achieving student who originally didn't consider Rutgers but ended up going to Rutgers because it has an honors program and gave her scholarships. And then the video talks about the honors program will have its own building.
But the video never talks about what the honors program is. Besides a nice building, what do students in the honors program get that the average student doesn't get?
The video interviews a high-achieving student who originally didn't consider Rutgers but ended up going to Rutgers because it has an honors program and gave her scholarships. And then the video talks about the honors program will have its own building.
But the video never talks about what the honors program is. Besides a nice building, what do students in the honors program get that the average student doesn't get?
Well lets be real here - why do students pick honors programs - its not largely because they get such added benefits. At Cook I believe it was that you had an extra seminar class the first two years and had to do some kind of research project at some point - implying an easier pathway to a relationship with the faculty. But its not like you couldnt otherwise have a relationship with faculty, nor is MORE and HARDER classwork necessarily a great selling point.Originally posted by Upstream:
and "Blown Away"
But mostly its because it comes with money and prestige. You could go to PSU and be a regular student, or you could go to RU and be an Honors student, for much less money, with your own dorm full of other smarty pants.
I don't know if that is the case. For example, someone I know who was in the honors program at a different school was assigned a high-level faculty advisor, had access to honors-only classes, was able to secure a grant for an honors research project, had special access to internships, and completed a capstone honors thesis. (Maybe Rutgers also has all this, but there is nothing in the video to indicate that.)Originally posted by derleider:
Well lets be real here - why do students pick honors programs - its not largely because they get such added benefits. At Cook I believe it was that you had an extra seminar class the first two years and had to do some kind of research project at some point - implying an easier pathway to a relationship with the faculty. But its not like you couldnt otherwise have a relationship with faculty, nor is MORE and HARDER classwork necessarily a great selling point.Originally posted by Upstream:
and "Blown Away"
But mostly its because it comes with money and prestige. You could go to PSU and be a regular student, or you could go to RU and be an Honors student, for much less money, with your own dorm full of other smarty pants.
I think the academic opportunities is what will appeal to highly-competitive students. Scholarships and special dorms are nice, but at the end of the day, highly-competitive students are looking at academic advantages when comparing schools.
You both realize this video is not targeted at students but to those who are donors to the University, right?
This video is part of a larger presentation that connects the donors to the faculty advisors within the various departments that are connected to the larger Honors program and offers the greater detail about how the funding of the scholarships and program will advance this.
For deeper information about how the Honors Programs works today, I'd recommend an in-depth review of this Honors website.
This video is part of a larger presentation that connects the donors to the faculty advisors within the various departments that are connected to the larger Honors program and offers the greater detail about how the funding of the scholarships and program will advance this.
For deeper information about how the Honors Programs works today, I'd recommend an in-depth review of this Honors website.
No. I didn't catch that. I thought it was a video promoting the Honors Program to prospective students.
As a stand-alone video targeting donors, it also does not sway me to make a donation. However, since it is part of a series, I'd really need to see the series to make that determination.
It was sent via email from the foundation. I received it and it was clear from the communication that it was for donors. It's a quick promo feel good video and not a comprehensive infomercial
derleider: you make this statement in your post...I a not too sure if I am getting what you're saying:
"...nor is MORE and HARDER classwork necessarily a great selling point"
As i understand it, I would dispute this wholeheartedly. Honors programs at universities, in addition to having closer bonds with faculty and generous scholarship opportunities, provide the students with the rigor they desperately want. Imagine a top football player in NJ choosing btn Rutgers and, say, Monmouth. Both offer a chance to play football and go to college in-state. The best football player would surely choose Rutgers, as it offers him a chance to compete at the highest level athletically. We have the facilities and the track record of putting guys in the NFL these days that Flood can sell. Monmouth does not have that (apologies to Miles Austin, as he is an anomaly.
Honors programs attract the best students in large part due to the rigor. They want to be challenged, to live up to the challenge, and reap the benefits down the road in their next level of scholarship (grad school, med school, law school careers in research). These kinds of students know early on that they have a lust for rigorous academic course work and don't want that to end. The MORE and HARDER class work is exactly what they are seeking.
In the case I used above, Monmouth vs. Rutgers, I would replace Monmouth with the Ivies, the Duke's, the UVA's, UNC's Michigans, the Cal's. The reason is that those schools have a long held reputation that they are challenging environments for top students. Those students want to be in an environment with top faculty, but ALSO top students who they can work alongside and compete with.
It has been a while since I've had a conversation with a Rutgers faculty member about this, but many lamented for a long time that their best students deserved a true honors program and that Rutgers lacked it. They would also speak of students avoiding Rutgers because the rigor at other schools was on display more effectively. Surely, there were/are honors societies, there were/ are opportunities to move on past pre-req's, and surely, there are plenty of great faculty who take top students under their win and mentor them. This program will offer those much needed avenues to challenging course work.
And having them in their own building creates a prestige that will help jump-start this program's reputation. Imagine faculty recruiting a brilliant scholar from Ohio. They can bring them to campus and show them their home-base for the next four years. It's not unlike Flood taking stud LB's from Don Bosco to our facilities and telling him that this is the home-base that will help him move to the next level.
"...nor is MORE and HARDER classwork necessarily a great selling point"
As i understand it, I would dispute this wholeheartedly. Honors programs at universities, in addition to having closer bonds with faculty and generous scholarship opportunities, provide the students with the rigor they desperately want. Imagine a top football player in NJ choosing btn Rutgers and, say, Monmouth. Both offer a chance to play football and go to college in-state. The best football player would surely choose Rutgers, as it offers him a chance to compete at the highest level athletically. We have the facilities and the track record of putting guys in the NFL these days that Flood can sell. Monmouth does not have that (apologies to Miles Austin, as he is an anomaly.
Honors programs attract the best students in large part due to the rigor. They want to be challenged, to live up to the challenge, and reap the benefits down the road in their next level of scholarship (grad school, med school, law school careers in research). These kinds of students know early on that they have a lust for rigorous academic course work and don't want that to end. The MORE and HARDER class work is exactly what they are seeking.
In the case I used above, Monmouth vs. Rutgers, I would replace Monmouth with the Ivies, the Duke's, the UVA's, UNC's Michigans, the Cal's. The reason is that those schools have a long held reputation that they are challenging environments for top students. Those students want to be in an environment with top faculty, but ALSO top students who they can work alongside and compete with.
It has been a while since I've had a conversation with a Rutgers faculty member about this, but many lamented for a long time that their best students deserved a true honors program and that Rutgers lacked it. They would also speak of students avoiding Rutgers because the rigor at other schools was on display more effectively. Surely, there were/are honors societies, there were/ are opportunities to move on past pre-req's, and surely, there are plenty of great faculty who take top students under their win and mentor them. This program will offer those much needed avenues to challenging course work.
And having them in their own building creates a prestige that will help jump-start this program's reputation. Imagine faculty recruiting a brilliant scholar from Ohio. They can bring them to campus and show them their home-base for the next four years. It's not unlike Flood taking stud LB's from Don Bosco to our facilities and telling him that this is the home-base that will help him move to the next level.
