http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/rutu/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/1996--3/prospectus/prospectus.pdf
Just found this...things have certainly changed in twenty years.
Just found this...things have certainly changed in twenty years.
"I can't emphasize how impressed I am with Rutgers Facilities." - Bill Walsh, Old Rutgers Prospectus
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Bill Walsh...the reason we had the Shea years
RU President Francis Lawrence pulled the trigger on the Shea deal. I blame him more than Bill Walsh recommending Shea after Lawrence wanted to hire him.
Belichick recommended Greg to Tampa Bay before the Glasers hired him as HC. Was it Bill Belichicks fault that Greg ended up being a horrendous hire as HC of the Bucs ? Id say no, it was the Glasers fault.
It was a long time ago and I really don't care that much at this point but if you think he gets the job without the Walsh endorsement you are crazy. And obviously the person who hired him is ultimately responsible
If Shea had the same support that the RU Adminstration had given Schiano ( Facilites, Academic support, staff) the results would have been different. That and the fact the New Jersey HS Coaches totally ignored Shea did not help.
But we did get 3 appearances in 1996 on National TV so that was a start I guess.
LOL .
You sure do have an obsession when it comes to Schiano.
More support may have helped him, but Shea put himself behind the eight ball when he went on vacation right after starting the job. Why do we have to make excuses for someone who in the end was just a bad hire by an overqualified administration. Just like Flood and Fred Hill Jr and Eddie Jordan and Mike Rice were really bad hires.
I'll agree the vacation stunt was not a smart move.
Shea had a brilliant offensive mind and we saw how he developed QBs with little support around them ( McMahon). He just had no support whatsoever ...just thrown into a war with no weapons. Nowhere near the bad hire like Flood was. Who inherited a good recruiting class ( best in years) , facilities , Support, and new entry into the premier CFB Conference :B1G.
Only comparison between Shea and Flood is: Both proved unqualified to be a HC and Rutgers suffered for hiring them as the RU FB HC.
Flood's career (27–24) W-L record doesn't really show how bad a HC he was.
Shea's record (11–44) as the RU FB HC proves how bad he was
This . Shea was awful how he left the probably in 2000 was terrible. People forget how bad this program was after Shea was done with it . If Rutgers closed up shop as a division 1 program then and there it wouldn't have been surprising . Schiano really did a great job building this program , and flood almost destroyed the whole thing
Just trying to give a comparable situation that RU fans could relate to. Unfortunately for you the comparison involved a guy you think I should not talk about.
Should I avoid mentioning Greg's name or participating in threads where he is the main topic ?
BTW when did you appoint yourself the board police captain ? I hope you're not monitoring what I post about, because that would be an obsession. Good day Sir.
So true. Shea had glaring deficiencies as a head coach (and GS certainly had his share), however, the football budget doubled when GS took the helm.
I have notice how you try to bring in Schiano's failures into a thread whenever you see an opportunity and just pointed that out.
To me that seems like an obsession you have .
Guess no one can point out how you do that without upsetting you.
Talk about anyone you like, but remember the more you do it the more it will be noticed that you do.
Just try to accept some things tend to be noticed if you do it often enough and that can lead to being considered an obsession.
Sorry you're offended that I noticed and pointed it out.
Not sure I agree with the comment about if Shea had support. Graber looked like Knute Rockne compared to Shea and he was playing under the same rules as Shea. Shea was just not qualified for the job.
When a coach proves to a university that he is important, they will invest in him. Schiano convinced the university that he could get the job done - thats a helluva lotta confidence for the youngest d1a coach at the time.
I agree with what you say, but also keep in mind that Mulcahey came on board as AD in 98 and I think we can all agree that he was definitely a game changer, bringing a commitment to success that didn't really exist under Gruninger the 25 years before.
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