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I guess it's time for us to own this, too...

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And we laughed at the time.

Probably shouldn't have done that.

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I was thinking about this last night.

Wouldn't be surprised if JH tried to get Strong on the phone at the end of the season...
 
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I'll take Mr. Strong.
You can pencil in two losses verse TCU and Baylor. If they win five maybe Charlie will need a job. I'll take him in a heartbeat and I think he would come
 
Always said that core values should be simple and straightforward.

But yeah, seemed ridiculous a few months ago. Little did we know that our classmates and friends would have so much trouble with these.
 
It's still hilarious to me...it's just that now when people laugh at our program, I have to sit and take it.
 
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Some of those Luavuhl core values must've been inspired by signs posted outside bars and nightclubs.
 
I was thinking about this last night.

Wouldn't be surprised if JH tried to get Strong on the phone at the end of the season...
If he can't win in the BIGXII with Texas recruiting talent how's is he going to win here? Maybe we should see him win a few games without TB?
 
I still say only the first two (minus the "Treat Women with" part) are actually correctly described as "Values".
The rest are more like an except from The Ten Commandments. They are rules.
 
If he can't win in the BIGXII with Texas recruiting talent how's is he going to win here? Maybe we should see him win a few games without TB?
This is my thing with him. I'm not completely against him as a coach in general but I want to see how he does without TB. Also he's had issues hiring OCs as well both in Louisville and Texas so that's also something.
 
If he can't win in the BIGXII with Texas recruiting talent how's is he going to win here? Maybe we should see him win a few games without TB?

It's his defense I'm interested in. Not his offense.

The problem with Texas at this point is that they're antsy. They believe they should be winning national championship after national championship, without actually facing the current state of the programs.

Strong is a disciplinarian that is a good freaking coach. And out coached us multiple times.

Would you not be satisfied with a coach unless we get some random dude from the MAC? Every time I read a post of yours about coaches it seems like you don't want Rutgers to hire someone that's established.
 
If he can't win in the BIGXII with Texas recruiting talent how's is he going to win here? Maybe we should see him win a few games without TB?

And you can take this however you want, but I think it would be good to have an African American coach at Rutgers.
 
And you can take this however you want, but I think it would be good to have an African American coach at Rutgers.

Why?

You're sayin' white guys can't coach?

Why ya gotta be like that? What's that about?
 
It's his defense I'm interested in. Not his offense.

The problem with Texas at this point is that they're antsy. They believe they should be winning national championship after national championship, without actually facing the current state of the programs.

Strong is a disciplinarian that is a good freaking coach. And out coached us multiple times.

Would you not be satisfied with a coach unless we get some random dude from the MAC? Every time I read a post of yours about coaches it seems like you don't want Rutgers to hire someone that's established.
Maybe it's because I'm realistic? Maybe it's because I don't live in a fantasy coaching world? Strong is in year 2 of a 25 plus million dollar contract. Oh and they played Lville a 4.5 million dollar buyout and all 25 million is guaranteed. Even if he were to get fired, which he won't, he isn't coming here. He could go be a coordinator in the SEC for 1.2 million and wait until another 3.5 million dollar year a job opened up. you think he is going to come here for around 2 million? Think we could afford his assistants? SMH As for the disciplinarian...ok. Two words MIKE DYER
Now, as to your ridiculous post about me not wanting someone who is established. Find me an established P5 coach that would find our situation better than his and will come here for meager raise or a pay cut. Once you can't do that lets start talking about successful MAC coaches.
 
Why?

You're sayin' white guys can't coach?

Why ya gotta be like that? What's that about?

I think it'll help with recruiting. Just being completely honest, I think for some families it would be something that would be of more interest. Think it's another thing that the coach would be able to relate with the players about
 
Maybe it's because I'm realistic? Maybe it's because I don't live in a fantasy coaching world? Strong is in year 2 of a 25 plus million dollar contract. Oh and they played Lville a 4.5 million dollar buyout and all 25 million is guaranteed. Even if he were to get fired, which he won't, he isn't coming here. He could go be a coordinator in the SEC for 1.2 million and wait until another 3.5 million dollar year a job opened up. you think he is going to come here for around 2 million? Think we could afford his assistants? SMH As for the disciplinarian...ok. Two words MIKE DYER
Now, as to your ridiculous post about me not wanting someone who is established. Find me an established P5 coach that would find our situation better than his and will come here for meager raise or a pay cut. Once you can't do that lets start talking about successful MAC coaches.

Difference is, you think the funding isn't there. I think it is.

You have a though process like we're still in the Big East/AAC. The donors of this school want to see the Athletics succeed now more than they ever have.

They want to open up the Post or whatever newspaper you read and see Rutgers knocks off #1 Ohio State. Rutgers beating Syracuse wasn't exactly that interesting and respected
 
Difference is, you think the funding isn't there. I think it is.

You have a though process like we're still in the Big East/AAC. The donors of this school want to see the Athletics succeed now more than they ever have.

They want to open up the Post or whatever newspaper you read and see Rutgers knocks off #1 Ohio State. Rutgers beating Syracuse wasn't exactly that interesting and respected
there is a lot of stuff I'd like to see in the papers but that doesn't make it plausible. You think the donors want to see it and the funding is there. I see a group that couldn't raise enough money only 2 years ago. I see a group that is struggling to raise the funds for a new basketball area. I see a basketball coach that gets paid 1 million a year. I see a President that wants to be deficit neutral. I see a message board that complains about parking prices. Finally, I see a press that wants to write negative stories and would cream themselves over RU spending 4 million a year on their coach. I also see a coach whether it be Flood or not making about 2.5 million a year.
 
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there is a lot of stuff I'd like to see in the papers but that doesn't make it plausible. You think the donors want to see it and the funding is there. I see a group that couldn't raise enough money only 2 years ago. I see a group that is struggling to raise the funds for a new basketball area. I see a basketball coach that gets paid 1 million a year. I see a President that wants to be deficit neutral. I see a message board that complains about parking prices. Finally, I see a press that wants to write negative stories and would cream themselves over RU spending 4 million a year on their coach. I also see a coach whether it be Flood or not making about 2.5 million a year.

Why donate and put money into those things when clearly football is and should be the priority?

How do you know they weren't planning on moving on from Flood regardless of what's happened? Everything that's gone down the past couple of weeks could have just hurried the process up.
 
If he can't win in the BIGXII with Texas recruiting talent how's is he going to win here? Maybe we should see him win a few games without TB?

This! Mack Brown got kicked out for this?
If he can't win in the BIGXII with Texas recruiting talent how's is he going to win here? Maybe we should see him win a few games without TB?
 
Why donate and put money into those things when clearly football is and should be the priority?

How do you know they weren't planning on moving on from Flood regardless of what's happened? Everything that's gone down the past couple of weeks could have just hurried the process up.
I don't......nobody does. But history shows us the money isn't there.
 
Why donate and put money into those things when clearly football is and should be the priority?

How do you know they weren't planning on moving on from Flood regardless of what's happened? Everything that's gone down the past couple of weeks could have just hurried the process up.

There is no plan to move on from flood. Large, important donors like him. Flood isn't the issue. Let's get through this pen state game and things will get better.
 
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