IMO Cam Has the Best Rotation / Cleanest Shot @ Rutgers Since Lloyd

[RutgersMO]

Couple that with his hustle, steals, rebounding, asssits....and I'm Thinking if he (and the team) continues at present clip,
comes back next year and performs equally or even better (e.g. >PPG)...>CAM gets a shot at the NBA.


Go RU!!!

MO

 

[REDRICH65]

Agreed. Bobby Lloyd one of my all time favorites

 

[RutgersMO]

Agreed. Bobby Lloyd one of my all time favorites

Lloyd was IMO the best pure shooter Rutgers has ever had. He wasn't quick, but his shot was pretty / on target.

Had two 50 point games in the era pre 3. If the 3 had been in effect I think he would have been in the 60's.

Also averaged over 25 ppg and along with Valvano carried us to the NIT.

Also, his foul shooting was sensational...as is Cam's (despite his 2 misses today).

GO RU!!!

MO

 

[Scangg]

Weird post. Cam is an unbelievable shooter but it's actually very noticeable that he doesn't have a lot of rotation on his shot at all. It stands out actually and rare to see from such a good shooter

 

[RedTeam1994]

Couple that with his hustle, steals, rebounding, asssits....and I'm Thinking if he (and the team) continues at present clip,
comes back next year and performs equally or even better (e.g. >PPG)...>CAM gets a shot at the NBA.


Go RU!!!

MO

. It’s understandable that you don’t get it as a Rutgers fan (since we don’t put a lot of kids in the NBA)…. This is simply NOT how it works!! Cam upping his PPG in college will have zero barring on whether he can make the nba. They select based on potential in their sport…. It’s a totally different game . The don’t pick as an achievement award at the college level

Now, personally, as much as he is a STUD at this level I don’t think he has a shot - he is not the athletic unicorn that they seem to look for.

The one thing that does separate him is his 3p %. He keeps that % way up there and MAYBE he gets some interest as a 3p specialist. Maybe. Maybe? Perhaps? But I doubt it

But as an overall player….as much as he is a stud right now. Just not the kind of player they look for in the nba.

 

[Mbash93]

Couple that with his hustle, steals, rebounding, asssits....and I'm Thinking if he (and the team) continues at present clip,
comes back next year and performs equally or even better (e.g. >PPG)...>CAM gets a shot at the NBA.


Go RU!!!

MO

Love the enthusiasm but you’re 100% wrong.

He’s not on the NBA radar. Will make a ton of money overseas though

 

[Rutgers25]

Weird post. Cam is an unbelievable shooter but it's actually very noticeable that he doesn't have a lot of rotation on his shot at all. It stands out actually and rare to see from such a good shooter

Yeah. I’ve noticed that as well. It’s actually inconsistent. He does get some rotation some time. Agree that for a great shooter it’s surprising. …but it works for him!

 

[Scangg]

Yeah. I’ve noticed that as well. It’s actually inconsistent. He does get some rotation some time. Agree that for a great shooter it’s surprising. …but it works for him!

I just happened to bring up his lack of rotation to the 2 guys next to me during warm-ups and they were saying how they noticed that before too

The ball only rotates twice on his 3 attempts which is very little rotation

Whatever works though Cam! Keep doing what you're doing

 

[RutgersMO]

Weird post. Cam is an unbelievable shooter but it's actually very noticeable that he doesn't have a lot of rotation on his shot at all. It stands out actually and rare to see from such a good

Lloyd was IMO the best pure shooter Rutgers has ever had. He wasn't quick, but his shot was pretty / on target.

Had two 50 point games in the era pre 3. If the 3 had been in effect I think he would have been in the 60's.

Also averaged over 25 ppg and along with Valvano carried us to the NIT.

Also, his foul shooting was sensational...as is Cam's (despite his 2 misses today).

GO RU!!!

MO

@Scangg

Sometimes less is best!

Regardless, the flight of the ball (arc) from the foul line, to mid range to 3 land is pretty (not flat) and when it hits nothing but net ....it's a thing of beauty.


MO

 

[Ruthinking]

Q Douby?

 

[cm_13]

I just happened to bring up his lack of rotation to the 2 guys next to me during warm-ups and they were saying how they noticed that before too

The ball only rotates twice on his 3 attempts which is very little rotation

Whatever works though Cam! Keep doing what you're doing

Rotation doesn’t matter if the ball doesn’t touch the rim I guess.

 

[PaKnight]

Q Douby?

I would have to go with Clarence Tillman, he had a sweet shot.

 

[BillyC80]

I’ve always thought Jonathan Mitchell had the purest shot release/rotation I’ve seen from an RU baller.

 

[JavaDunk18]

I am more interested in Cam hitting that buzzer beater that propels us to the sweet 16…
NBA talk for some of our players is always fun, as is 2024 class speculation, but my main focus is on this season.
If this team continues like this, they have a chance to make some serious noise in the tournament!

 

[RUby RED]

Cam would have to showcase his ability to hit threes on the move / off off-ball screens for there to be a role for him at the next level. Do think his spot-up shooting, craftiness, and off-ball defense will at least get him a summer league look, but as others have said likely lacks the athleticism to stick

 

[RutgersMO]

Cam would have to showcase his ability to hit threes on the move / off off-ball screens for there to be a role for him at the next level. Do think his spot-up shooting, craftiness, and off-ball defense will at least get him a summer league look, but as others have said likely lacks the athleticism to stick

IMO, without looking it up ....Cam is currently a top 10 ? FT shooter, top 10 in steals and his 3 point ability makes him a valuable 6th man (old school reference) for a team that may lack big time shooters with OINIONS!

MO

 

[RUby RED]

He would not get the same looks he’s getting now at the NBA level. Perhaps he has a whole arsenal of off-ball movement that he just hasn’t been able to showcase in our offense, but being extremely effective / efficient in college doesn’t automatically translate to the NBA

 

[Scangg]

He would not get the same looks he’s getting now at the NBA level. Perhaps he has a whole arsenal of off-ball movement that he just hasn’t been able to showcase in our offense, but being extremely effective / efficient in college doesn’t automatically translate to the NBA

He would get more open looks in the NBA. He wouldn't be the focal of the offense at all and the NBA is a dunk or 3 league

 

[mikeyo]

. It’s understandable that you don’t get it as a Rutgers fan (since we don’t put a lot of kids in the NBA)…. This is simply NOT how it works!! Cam upping his PPG in college will have zero barring on whether he can make the nba. They select based on potential in their sport…. It’s a totally different game . The don’t pick as an achievement award at the college level

Now, personally, as much as he is a STUD at this level I don’t think he has a shot - he is not the athletic unicorn that they seem to look for.

The one thing that does separate him is his 3p %. He keeps that % way up there and MAYBE he gets some interest as a 3p specialist. Maybe. Maybe? Perhaps? But I doubt it

But as an overall player….as much as he is a stud right now. Just not the kind of player they look for in the nba.

His game would play overseas

 

[zappaa]

Good post MO.
Your observation is yours.
Pay no attention to people who aren’t capable of correcting a 50 year diehard fanatic respectfully

 

[RedTeam1994]

His game would play overseas

I hear ya.

My commentary is more an indictment of the nba than cam

Believe me - I think he’s great. Such a smart, intuitive, gutsy player. Effective, efficient etc etc

But he’s not 6’9” with a 50” vertical so….

 

[Nycrusupporter]

Cam would have to showcase his ability to hit threes on the move / off off-ball screens for there to be a role for him at the next level. Do think his spot-up shooting, craftiness, and off-ball defense will at least get him a summer league look, but as others have said likely lacks the athleticism to stick

Probably true but . . . We don’t do much to get him open with screens, he might excel in a system designed to get shooters open. Also, his brother is in the G-league, and he is a better shooter than his brother. Won’t get drafted but someone might given him a shot as a UFA.

 

[dollarbill]

John Somogyi. $$$$

 

[jim1666]

Jerome Coleman.

 

[BigRnj]

I often arrive early to catch some of the pre-game shoot around. Cam usually takes extra warmups right in front of my seats when the team heads back to the locker room. He routinely hits 5-10+ threes in a row. That being said, for an elite/high percentage three point shooter his shot has remarkably little rotation on it. I can read the logos on the ball in flight. Comparing his shot to a pure shooter like Curry or JJ Reddick, there is a huge difference in the amount of backspin.

Despite the lack of rotation it ain’t broke so it needs no fixing. It works for him and he works hard at it… Go Cam.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Love the enthusiasm but you’re 100% wrong.

He’s not on the NBA radar. Will make a ton of money overseas though

He’s not. That said - I would’ve said the same thing about Iowa’s Wieskamp as a junior. So we’ll see. He has one more year after this.

 

[NorthernKnight]

While you’re talking shot rotation and mechanics, what’s wrong with Caleb’s shot.

Somebody needs to fix it. It hasn’t been right for the last few games. He’s pushing the ball instead of flicking it.

 

[zappaa]

While you’re talking shot rotation and mechanics, what’s wrong with Caleb’s shot.

Somebody needs to fix it. It hasn’t been right for the last few games. He’s pushing the ball instead of flicking it.

Do you notice how his release is better on his mid range turnaround jumpers.
His body is in motion, and it’s a true jump shot.
I lot less thinking and a lot more athleticism going on there

 

[newell138]

. It’s understandable that you don’t get it as a Rutgers fan (since we don’t put a lot of kids in the NBA)…. This is simply NOT how it works!! Cam upping his PPG in college will have zero barring on whether he can make the nba. They select based on potential in their sport…. It’s a totally different game . The don’t pick as an achievement award at the college level

Now, personally, as much as he is a STUD at this level I don’t think he has a shot - he is not the athletic unicorn that they seem to look for.

The one thing that does separate him is his 3p %. He keeps that % way up there and MAYBE he gets some interest as a 3p specialist. Maybe. Maybe? Perhaps? But I doubt it

But as an overall player….as much as he is a stud right now. Just not the kind of player they look for in the nba.

seems slow, I think @socaldave would agree 🤣

 

[newell138]

have to agree, Lloyd did have a good rotation on her shots

 

[socaldave]

seems slow, I think @socaldave would agree 🤣

😂 I have my own opinions about this, and I believe happiness lies in the moment. This is Cams moment. kid has proven every “expert““wrong to this point, I would not bet against him. Go Cam!!!!

 

[RedTeam1994]

😂 I have my own opinions about this, and I believe happiness lies in the moment. This is Cams moment. kid has proven every “expert““wrong to this point, I would not bet against him. Go Cam!!!!

just understand - you wont find a bigger fan of Cam than me.

but he is generally not what they look for (again, far more of an indictment on the NBA than Cam). but since all they do in the NBA is shot 3s - maybe he does have a shot ?

 

[socaldave]

just understand - you wont find a bigger fan of Cam than me.

but he is generally not what they look for (again, far more of an indictment on the NBA than Cam). but since all they do in the NBA is shot 3s - maybe he does have a shot ?

I choose to celebrate the moment that Cam is in now, and what he is doing for Rutgers Bball. I am sure with the focus he has as pointed out by Geo, that is what he is focused on as well. Happiness is in the moment.
Lastly if I were to speculate about his future I wouldn’t choose to put any limitations on him, why? What’s to gain unless you are in a paid position to do so.
If I were Cam and I were reading some of these post I would consider some of these assessments as negative.