Basketball Jeremiah Williams plans to enter Transfer Portal

[PSAL_Hoops]

I just don't get this. His average kenpom ranking (including the rebuild years) was #77. This is below average but not close to the bottom of the P5 (and again it counts the rebuild as well). It's not like he had some resource advantage or was even at the average level in resources, the state of the program he inherited, etc. None of this squares with him being an "awful coach", "worst coach in P5", etc. Average to below average? Sure. Terrible? Just no.

It is possible to argue for him being fired without making these completely hyperbolic statements.


This is just nuts dude. You think those teams were talented at the P5 level? And to the extent they were, Pike identified and recruited those players!

Literally everyone got the COVID years, there are still COVID year players around this year, that argument is ridiculous.

Agreed - overall his tenure history doesn’t grade out as “terrible”. That said - if you parce out the evaluation of defense and offense separately, there’s no question he grades out as “poor” for offense, and “excellent” for defense.

This is why I’m hoping he commits to recruiting specifically for implementation of a press system next season. My view is that his best chance to improve his overall success is to aim for a style where the offense is specifically intended to come from the defense.

 

[Mholinko]

Be h

I mean

(1) This year's team was obviously better than last year's. You are going to try to explain that way (draft picks blah blah) to fit your trend argument but it is factually true.
(2) Coaching trends don't work like this. Again, unless someone wants to argue Pike is in cognitive decline or developing dementia or something, he likely isn't slowly becoming a worse coach. He will be the same coach next year he was last year. So there is no particular reason to project the already spurious trendline forward.
(3) The roster is depleted because everyone transfers every year now. Which is awful, but it's not really the same as having a depleted roster in the past.

I think it is far more likely we see another #75-#110 kenpom 15-17 type team (STILL NOT GOOD ENOUGH) than some 7-25 #275 EJ disaster.

To be fair to EJ I've been told that had a lot to do with injuries. I was so tuned out by that point I don't remember.

be Honest do you think he should keep his job at 15-17 again

That would be 3 years in a row losing record which I don’t need to tell you almost always means moving on at a p4 job when you’re in year 10

The ppl saying let him rebuild are so scarred and scared from past failures

 

[RUDivision]

I just don't get this. His average kenpom ranking (including the rebuild years) was #77. This is below average but not close to the bottom of the P5 (and again it counts the rebuild as well). It's not like he had some resource advantage or was even at the average level in resources, the state of the program he inherited, etc. None of this squares with him being an "awful coach", "worst coach in P5", etc. Average to below average? Sure. Terrible? Just no.

It is possible to argue for him being fired without making these completely hyperbolic statements.


This is just nuts dude. You think those teams were talented at the P5 level? And to the extent they were, Pike identified and recruited those players!

Literally everyone got the COVID years, there are still COVID year players around this year, that argument is ridiculous.

I agree hyperbolic statements like “worst power 5 “ coach aren’t helpful. This is going to sting, but neither is his KenPom ranking of 77.

Floux I think we can agree Pikes biggest attribute is his system and teaching that system? So having a core group of players in that system an extra year benefited him tremendously. I think he had under talented players who collectively operated as a unit so the more time together only benefited the system.

You can argue that is true for all schools. The difference is other coaches have proven successful adapting their philosophy year to year. Pike has not!!

Pike has failed with out those core Covid kids and now ppl want him to get back to his roots. Well, to teach his philosophy to kids takes 3-4 years and kids won’t stay that long anymore. So those analytics and Inflated KenPom numbers will start fall fast

 

[RUDivision]

It's a similar thing with Schiano.. the guy puts up mediocre results at a tougher than average job. That implies he's like a mediocre or a bit above average coach. There's nothing wrong with wanting more but calling him a joke/clown/terrible coach or whatever is just disconnected with reality.

Fair I have personal issue with Greggy and what he did and more importantly did not do at Penn State. He never won the conference his first go here. He has been fired from every job he has had but RU for being a BAD coach. X and O bad

Ru keeps him because they hold on to a Louisville game 20 years ago. I was on the field after that game and have a picture with my friends that I will cherish forever. Although I know Greggy will never achieve greatness on the banks calling timeouts for a 56 yd field goal into a 40 mph wind. Way way way too many coaching mistakes over his years to continue to get a pass.

 

[fluoxetine]

Be h

be Honest do you think he should keep his job at 15-17 again

That would be 3 years in a row losing record which I don’t need to tell you almost always means moving on at a p4 job when you’re in year 10

The ppl saying let him rebuild are so scarred and scared from past failures

No, assuming firing him is financially tenable and we don't plan to go cheap on the replacement to offset having to keep paying Pike.

I agree hyperbolic statements like “worst power 5 “ coach aren’t helpful. This is going to sting, but neither is his KenPom ranking of 77.

Floux I think we can agree Pikes biggest attribute is his system and teaching that system? So having a core group of players in that system an extra year benefited him tremendously. I think he had under talented players who collectively operated as a unit so the more time together only benefited the system.

You can argue that is true for all schools. The difference is other coaches have proven successful adapting their philosophy year to year. Pike has not!!

Pike has failed with out those core Covid kids and now ppl want him to get back to his roots. Well, to teach his philosophy to kids takes 3-4 years and kids won’t stay that long anymore. So those analytics and Inflated KenPom numbers will start fall fast

Yeah probably, that's why I'm less confident in him in the unlimited transfer era.

 

[Shelby65]

Fair I have personal issue with Greggy and what he did and more importantly did not do at Penn State. He never won the conference his first go here. He has been fired from every job he has had but RU for being a BAD coach. X and O bad

Ru keeps him because they hold on to a Louisville game 20 years ago. I was on the field after that game and have a picture with my friends that I will cherish forever. Although I know Greggy will never achieve greatness on the banks calling timeouts for a 56 yd field goal into a 40 mph wind. Way way way too many coaching mistakes over his years to continue to get a pass.

it’s not that Schiano didn’t win the conference. it’s that nearly every other team did, including D1 FBS newcomer UConn.

it also must be remembered that the team only became average once Miami, VT and BC left, teams back then that he never beat.

Subtract three wins from those New Big East years and he’s still the losing coach as he was before then. He had the biggest tailwind in Rutgers football history and still accomplished very very little.

100% phony accolades. Keep Choppin’ LOL

The disgrace in all of this is that other schools that give a shit about winning fire football and basketball coaches who win more than our coaches do. We’re just in the Big10 for the money. Fans are suckers for believing otherwise.

 

[LotusAggressor]

Agreed - overall his tenure history doesn’t grade out as “terrible”. That said - if you parce out the evaluation of defense and offense separately, there’s no question he grades out as “poor” for offense, and “excellent” for defense.

This is why I’m hoping he commits to recruiting specifically for implementation of a press system next season. My view is that his best chance to improve his overall success is to aim for a style where the offense is specifically intended to come from the defense.

That's how good teams do it.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

No, assuming firing him is financially tenable and we don't plan to go cheap on the replacement to offset having to keep paying Pike.


Yeah probably, that's why I'm less confident in him in the unlimited transfer era.

All of this is true. That said, there is at least reasonable potential that Pike could have success by deploying a shift to a niche press style brand. As long as he aims in that direction, my view is that fans should try to have some patience for one more off season and give him one chance.

This is not a random shot in the dark thought - like the folks who predict we can become a run and gun Iowa Type team by bringing in shooters.

1) Pike likes using the press. Hes never committed to it as a primary defense but he’s used it plenty with lots of historical success.

2) chose to turn to it in our last 2 games despite Dylan not being a good choice to run it (huffing and puffing) - was that a precursor to what’s in store?

3) addresses out financial issues because defense is undervalued in the NIL market. And Pike is an excellent evaluator of it.

4) pike sucks at traditional rotations of players. He’s a nice guy. Wants to keep people happy. Press systems resolve this. Not as much to think about. You need a lot of guys to keep everyone fresh. Chemistry usually not a problem since there’s PT to go around.

5) For a coach who is poor at playing poker with his promises, the press system takes the pressure off. There’s a vision of playing time for everyone in a press system.

6) press systems weed out kids who don’t like defense. This is perhaps most important because culturally - kids who don’t want to commit on D are poor fits to play for Pike

This list could go on. Everyone should be on board provided recruiting and retention moves in this apparent direction. We want lengthy athletic kids like Dortch and Grant to stay. We don’t want to see portal additions like Acuff and PJ (style wise) who are not known for their D. If we start to see additions that seem like an attempt to find the next Cam Spencer unicorn to run a pretty looking halfcourt offense, please sign me up on the pink slip for Pike campaign list. But I don’t think that will happen. Let’s see.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

That's how good teams do it.

Good coaches recruit to guys that fit their coaching strengths, and deploy a style that they are good at implementing. It’s true that some coaches are better at adapting their style to the talent they ultimately land than others, but recruiting guys that fit the system you hope to run is arguably just as important.

 

[seansherm]

Agreed he is highly intelligent on D but gets bullied and is way too small. The advantage to Pikes press is the run out on turnovers. JMike might be one of the worst players in the country on a Fastbreak. Either finishing or passing at the rim. So conceptually he understands what to do but physically he can’t. Love his attitude and grit but for his own sake transfer down.

J Mike shot a higher % at the rim than Derkack did, who was older/bigger/stronger. He'll be better at the rim the next two years than he has been thus far. He increased his % 5 points from freshman to soph year. It's part of growing.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Agreed he is highly intelligent on D but gets bullied and is way too small. The advantage to Pikes press is the run out on turnovers. JMike might be one of the worst players in the country on a Fastbreak. Either finishing or passing at the rim. So conceptually he understands what to do but physically he can’t. Love his attitude and grit but for his own sake transfer down.

Yes - I completely agree with this assessment of his transition game but I still think he could play 15 or so mpg in a press system without being a liability.

 

[seansherm]

All of this is true. That said, there is at least reasonable potential that Pike could have success by deploying a shift to a niche press style brand. As long as he aims in that direction, my view is that fans should try to have some patience for one more off season and give him one chance.

This is not a random shot in the dark thought - like the folks who predict we can become a run and gun Iowa Type team by bringing in shooters.

1) Pike likes using the press. Hes never committed to it as a primary defense but he’s used it plenty with lots of historical success.

2) chose to turn to it in our last 2 games despite Dylan not being a good choice to run it (huffing and puffing) - was that a precursor to what’s in store?

3) addresses out financial issues because defense is undervalued in the NIL market. And Pike is an excellent evaluator of it.

4) pike sucks at traditional rotations of players. He’s a nice guy. Wants to keep people happy. Press systems resolve this. Not as much to think about. You need a lot of guys to keep everyone fresh. Chemistry usually not a problem since there’s PT to go around.

5) For a coach who is poor at playing poker with his promises, the press system takes the pressure off. There’s a vision of playing time for everyone in a press system.

6) press systems weed out kids who don’t like defense. This is perhaps most important because culturally - kids who don’t want to commit on D are poor fits to play for Pike

This list could go on. Everyone should be on board provided recruiting and retention moves in this apparent direction. We want lengthy athletic kids like Dortch and Grant to stay. We don’t want to see portal additions like Acuff and PJ (style wise) who are not known for their D. If we start to see additions that seem like an attempt to find the next Cam Spencer unicorn to run a pretty looking halfcourt offense, please sign me up on the pink slip for Pike campaign list. But I don’t think that will happen. Let’s see.

My only disagreement is on the next Cam Spencer point. That's exactly what we do want, Cam was very good defensively too, before coming to RU. We want guys that have shown on both ends ideally.

 

[RUkhoury]

If Jmike can get to 190, or just gain weight, that would solve a lot of his problems. All of his stats improved from last year and he played fewer minutes. We can’t afford to lose a PG to the portal without the guarantee of getting a quality replacement. Anyone expecting Lino to come in and just take over as starting PG in the big 10 is a fool

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

My only disagreement is on the next Cam Spencer point. That's exactly what we do want, Cam was very good defensively too, before coming to RU. We want guys that have shown on both ends ideally.

What point exactly do you think your disagreeing on? I’m not trying to say a player like Cam Spencer wouldn’t help us. Based on today’s NIL market, I’m assuming off the bat that we’re not going to be landing a top 25 ranked portal prospect (I forget what Cam was, but he was high) with strong 2 way efficiency numbers. I’m saying that hunting for a Cam like outcome in the pool of Tyson Acuff’s out there is a unicorn chase. I don’t want to see guys with numbers like his who project to need work on D on our interest list. I’ll be very disappointed if that’s the direction we move in.

 

[NickRU714]

Good coaches recruit to guys that fit their coaching strengths, and deploy a style that they are good at implementing. It’s true that some coaches are better at adapting their style to the talent they ultimately land than others, but recruiting guys that fit the system you hope to run is arguably just as important.

Agreed.

I get the "adapt to your players".
But at some point a coach needs to enforce his ideal system and direction for the program.
Even if the current players aren't a great fit. To show future players the future plan.

Football is an easy example.
Suppose a team ran a Triple Option. Hired a new coach to change the offense.
Arguably the "current player's talents" are for a TO. The QB isn't going to be great throwing it around or the OL pass blocking.
But at some point you need to force the new system or else you waste a year of running a half-ass TO system to TO players(who caused the last coach to get fired) with a non-TO coach with a non-TO future plan.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

J Mike shot a higher % at the rim than Derkack did, who was older/bigger/stronger. He'll be better at the rim the next two years than he has been thus far. He increased his % 5 points from freshman to soph year. It's part of growing.

I do like J Mike better than Jordan for retention. That said, Jordan draws a ton of fouls. When J Mike gets blocked he rarely draws contact. That needs to be considered in any comparison.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Agreed.

I get the "adapt to your players".
But at some point a coach needs to enforce his ideal system and direction for the program.
Even if the current players aren't a great fit. To show future players the future plan.

Football is an easy example.
Suppose a team ran a Triple Option. Hired a new coach to change the offense.
Arguably the "current player's talents" are for a TO. The QB isn't going to be great throwing it around or the OL pass blocking.
But at some point you need to force the new system or else you waste a year of running a half-ass TO system to TO players(who caused the last coach to get fired) with a non-TO coach with a non-TO future plan.

Yes - for sure. And Pike screwed up last year in doing the opposite. But we do have at least one kid locked in who the reports say we paid for that fits Pike’s system.

Multiple reports out there say Nwuli is a defense first kid who Pike saw on the AAU recruiting trail and fell in love with. They also say we weren’t even in his top 6 but then we made a good frosh NIL offer and convinced him. I’m going out on a limb and saying no offensive skills would’ve impressed pike enough to do this on the AAU circuit. Kid has to be a defensive stopper. I love that SDSU wanted him. That school plays D. Very unexcited about Powers. That one seems like a crappy fit.

 

[bac2therac]

Be h

be Honest do you think he should keep his job at 15-17 again

That would be 3 years in a row losing record which I don’t need to tell you almost always means moving on at a p4 job when you’re in year 10

The ppl saying let him rebuild are so scarred and scared from past failures

there is no such thing as rebuild...we are literally in one year seasons...you win period, every year is a do over...if Pike has promising players this year in a 16-15 season, they are likely headed out the door the following year. Feeder program

 

[JMORC2003]

When JWill missed both foul shots & the wide open 3, my first thought was to wonder if he had bet on the game.

I don't know about that but it was frustrating to see all the attempted dunks off the glass in pre-game, and then go on to miss two clutch free throws that would has iced the first round W. I know they're not correlated but it irks me nonetheless.
He played hard and brought a lot of fun and spirit. Plus he took a nice selfie with my son at camp.

 

[Shelby65]

I don't know about that but it was frustrating to see all the attempted dunks off the glass in pre-game, and then go on to miss two clutch free throws that would has iced the first round W. I know they're not correlated but it irks me nonetheless.
He played hard and brought a lot of fun and spirit. Plus he took a nice selfie with my son at camp.

Without his defense that day, the game wouldn't have been close in the end anyway. Ok, two missed FTs by a guy probably gassed from his excellent 2nd half D. We should be applauding him, not slinging arrows.

Regardless, say he makes the FTs. So what. One more game in Indianapolis. Who cares.

 

[Mholinko]

there is no such thing as rebuild...we are literally in one year seasons...you win period, every year is a do over...if Pike has promising players this year in a 16-15 season, they are likely headed out the door the following year. Feeder program

which makes him unfit for a P4 job in this environment

he is not that type of coach

Calipari, Pitino, Oats, etc have been thriving in that environment long before it became the norm

Other guys like Izzo and Painter are bulletproof because they created a culture too strong to get hurt by this LONG before it was an issue

Pike had 2 decent seasons under the old set of rules

 

[RUDivision]

Yes - I completely agree with this assessment of his transition game but I still think he could play 15 or so mpg in a press system without being a liability.

The problem is Pike views him as a starting PG and he’s a D2 player. Ppl point to his slight up tick in shooting percentage. A fair point but it needs context. This year every team we played doubled and tripled Dylan and Ace leaving JMike and others wide open. So in a year where he was wide open he still shot a bad percentage but increased yoy.

Next year he will not have the luxury of being left wide open and he will have to create for others something he has yet to do in his career.

 

[NickRU714]

The problem is Pike views him as a starting PG and he’s a D2 player. Ppl point to his slight up tick in shooting percentage. A fair point but it needs context. This year every team we played doubled and tripled Dylan and Ace leaving JMike and others wide open. So in a year where he was wide open he still shot a bad percentage but increased yoy.

Next year he will not have the luxury of being left wide open and he will have to create for others something he has yet to do in his career.

Check the other thread on Pike's interview.
He specifically said we needed a scoring wing, combo guard and big man.

To me that means Davis/Mark are our PGs.

 

[RUDivision]

Check the other thread on Pike's interview.
He specifically said we needed a scoring wing, combo guard and big man.

To me that means Davis/Mark are our PGs.

Huge problem then unless Mark is a absolute stud.

 

[Plum Street]

Is Williams graduating from Rutgers ?

 

[seansherm]

What point exactly do you think your disagreeing on? I’m not trying to say a player like Cam Spencer wouldn’t help us. Based on today’s NIL market, I’m assuming off the bat that we’re not going to be landing a top 25 ranked portal prospect (I forget what Cam was, but he was high) with strong 2 way efficiency numbers. I’m saying that hunting for a Cam like outcome in the pool of Tyson Acuff’s out there is a unicorn chase. I don’t want to see guys with numbers like his who project to need work on D on our interest list. I’ll be very disappointed if that’s the direction we move in.

I agree, but Cam had excellent defensive #'s. Targeting a guy like Cam is what we want. Targeting a guy like Hayes or Martini or Acuff is not. We want the same thing. Guys like a Chris Howell from UCSD, excellent defense throughout his career, but improving offense.

 

[seansherm]

I do like J Mike better than Jordan for retention. That said, Jordan draws a ton of fouls. When J Mike gets blocked he rarely draws contact. That needs to be considered in any comparison.

He did. But the extra turnover per 18 minutes also is just as big a factor as the one extra made FT.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

there is no such thing as rebuild...we are literally in one year seasons...you win period, every year is a do over...if Pike has promising players this year in a 16-15 season, they are likely headed out the door the following year. Feeder program

Correct. Again, this is why Pike’s best chance at stabilizing the program is the press. It’s the one D first scheme that is reloadable and generally not dependent on year over year development for success.

There are most certainly trade offs. Not every kid wants to play for that type of program. But it’s his best shot IMO.

 

[toby83]

Imagining coaching in this bullshit era

Can't wait until money slowly dries out for most programs what a shitshow

Lol at giving my hard earned money to 18-22 year olds year after year, only for them give up halfway thru season and move onto next scam check. Eat dirt assholes.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

there is no such thing as rebuild...we are literally in one year seasons...you win period, every year is a do over...if Pike has promising players this year in a 16-15 season, they are likely headed out the door the following year. Feeder program

Correct. Again, this is why Pike’s best chance at stabilizing the program is the press. It’s the one D first scheme that is reloadable and generally not dependent on year over year development for success.

There are most certainly trade offs. Not every kid wants to play for that type of program. But it’s his best shot. His challenge when identifying 2 way players - being reliable in transition is a prerequisite that is just as important as the D itself. Can’t win with guys who can’t finish fast breaks consistently.

Also - when I say press - that includes the halfcourt trap schemes we run too. I don’t know that Pike will move to 40 minutes of full court pressure but most certainly we will not be laying back in a traditional man scheme with only a single on ball defender applying lightpressure as the PG walks to ball over halfcourt. No way.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

I agree, but Cam had excellent defensive #'s. Targeting a guy like Cam is what we want. Targeting a guy like Hayes or Martini or Acuff is not. We want the same thing. Guys like a Chris Howell from UCSD, excellent defense throughout his career, but improving offense.

To be clear - should we have an opportunity to land anyone who grades out this high (within our budget) it goes with out saying we would and should take it. Probably not realistic though coming off the season we just had and given the current market where kids like that can be bought by a team with deep pockets.

My point was that, assuming we’re not going to be hand picking transfer additions amongst the most elite portal options who everyone wants - there are going to be trade offs - i.e. reasons the guys we go after don’t grade out higher. While generally not a popular view on here, I’m hoping the reasons will mostly be about offense and not poor D. Poor shooting and such. I want to see us bringing in tenacious defenders even if they scored significantly less points. I could care less how many points a mid-major kid dropped in a terrible conference as long as the scouting report doesn’t say the kid tends to have trouble finishing fast breaks in transition when encountering light pressure. That’s where we went wrong IMO in 2023-24 and I hope that’s what Pike is studying more than anything on offense from guards. Foot speed is another big one. We want guys who will run the floor and grab offensive boards off of missed transition 3s for put backs like Mag, Cliff and even Caleb would. As Fluox always says - even without efficient shooters, you still want to take those wide open 3s. It helps when your guys get put backs off of misses at a reasonable rate which was the case on all of our better teams.

 

[ImBadRU]

Cam got blown by all the time. He was good in passing lanes tho. Need long and twitchy fast mens.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Cam got blown by all the time. He was good in passing lanes tho. Need long and twitchy fast mens.

Outside of JY, none of our pure guards have been elite defenders. Tez pretty good but he’s not miles better than Davis or Simpson. Geo too. Certainly not Cam or Paul. The big drop off was 3-5.

 

[seansherm]

Cam got blown by all the time. He was good in passing lanes tho. Need long and twitchy fast mens.

Most guys, except the true elite get blown by. He was excellent in help defense as you say.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Completely fair on what he inherited to what he achieved past tense. The team has progressively gotten worse every year since Covid. This past year goes down in collegiate history as an utter failure of epic proportions. For decades it has been RU doesn’t have the blue chip (blue blood) talent. Well we did and embarrassed ourselves. What blue chip player wants to play for Pike now?

He has only 1 player with more than a year of experience on the entire roster. JMike and he is a DII player.

His captain transferred. A walk on who played with his son transferred. It’s the NIL era and every team is going though it. Fair but not completely gutted like RU.

He will be lucky to win 10 games total and 4 conference games next year. If he drops Vegas maybe he can get to 12 total wins.

Eddie Jordan levels feel so much worse because there was never a shining moment. Pike had that and deserves the credit no doubt. If you look at the last 3 years of Pikes decline and what’s on the horizon for next year you can see EJ you just don’t want to look over the hill.

I don’t think it’s exactly been some steady decline in the program the way you describe it. 16-7 did actually happen in 2022-23 before Mag got hurt. That’s not some random stretch of a few games but rather a 23 game stretch that included quite a few games early without 2 starters. It’s not that long ago. You can say he needed to be able to adapt so he owns the finish to the season, and yes absolutely. but it’s still true that team produced 16-7.

The past 2 years were disasters but for completely unrelated reasons that basically boil down to poor management of resources in trying to keep specific players happy. It’s more this that Pike’s actual coaching. I for one, am looking forward to him getting a chance to coach a team without being held hostage to that. He’ll get that next season and we’ll see where the chips fall.

 

[RUDivision]

I don’t think it’s exactly been some steady decline in the program the way you describe it. 16-7 did actually happen in 2022-23 before Mag got hurt. That’s not some random stretch of a few games but rather a 23 game stretch that included quite a few games early without 2 starters. It’s not that long ago. You can say he needed to be able to adapt so he owns the finish to the season, and yes absolutely. but it’s still true that team produced 16-7.

The past 2 years were disasters but for completely unrelated reasons that basically boil down to poor management of resources in trying to keep specific players happy. It’s more this that Pike’s actual coaching. I for one, am looking forward to him getting a chance to coach a team without being held hostage to that. He’ll get that next season and we’ll see where the chips fall.

Covid Pikes best team season canceled
1 NCAA win (Pike lost the Houston game)
Play in game
NIT lost at home as 1 seed •
Bad season
NCAA historically bad season

6 years trending down and next years team wil struggle to win 10-11 games

*Mag is a complimentary piece no reason for the team to implode. Minnesota game one of the worst coached games I ever saw. Paul should have been taken out of starting lineup or moved to the 3 two weeks earlier. Pike showed loyalty and it cost him.

 

[RedChucken123]

I try not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I’ve been suspicious of him all year. And what’s done is done. Nor do I bet on sports. But looking back the over/under was 152.5 total points and moneyline USC -1.5. If we ended it in regulation, the total would have been under 152.5. If he made that three in OT, USC wouldn’t have covered. Maybe he was trying to hit both bets.

Regardless, I’m glad he is finally leaving. I always wondered what the analytics said. Data doesn’t lie and I would be surprised what his +/- was with all the slipping and falling and stupid turnovers at times.

 

[PiscatawayMike]

 

[TRU2RU]

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Shocked that they didn't use his 24-25 numbers 28% from 3, 61 assists vs 54 turnovers, whats not to like with those numbers