Johnathan Lewis highlights

[Rutgersnj201]

Were getting something special right here

 

[madchuck]

He certainly possesses all the tools and he looks like a B1G quarterback. However, he seems to be a better runner than passer. I watched a few of his games and he throws nothing but fast balls. He can work on that though.

 

[pmvon]

A lot of highlights there. Passes as impressive as the runs. Lots to like.

 

[FELONIOUSMONK]

Chuck He must be taught the change up ...

 

[Knight Shift]

He certainly possesses all the tools and he looks like a B1G quarterback. However, he seems to be a better runner than passer. I watched a few of his games and he throws nothing but fast balls. He can work on that though.

According to board experts, maybe one of our former QBs could have taught him how to lob and/or underthrow passes

 

[RU848789]

He'll immediately be the most talented QB on the roster; it'll be just a matter of time before he's ready to start. Could be game one, could be later, but I'll be very surprised if he's not starting by mid-season. .

 

[RU4Real]

I have a lot of concerns about this offense.

(Note that this post is only peripherally about Jonathan Lewis, who is a hell of an athlete)

Ohio State has shown us that for the power spread to be effective against good defenses you need 1) a QB who can run and throw accurately down the field, 2) a quality running back who can make quick decisions, 3) good receivers who can catch the ball consistently and get to the open field and 4) a strong O line.

So... If you have all that, you can run pretty much any offense, right?

This particular scheme seems unusually vulnerable to skillset weakness.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

I have a lot of concerns about this offense.

(Note that this post is only peripherally about Jonathan Lewis, who is a hell of an athlete)

Ohio State has shown us that for the power spread to be effective against good defenses you need 1) a QB who can run and throw accurately down the field, 2) a quality running back who can make quick decisions, 3) good receivers who can catch the ball consistently and get to the open field and 4) a strong O line.

So... If you have all that, you can run pretty much any offense, right?

This particular scheme seems unusually vulnerable to skillset weakness.

I agree. I think the spread has to have all parts working at the same time to be VERY VERY EXPLOSIVE. Meanwhile, a pro style offense can get away with fewer working parts as long as the QB can toss it. The think with pro style offense is it's not the "hot" thing going right now. I just want an offense that can score on anyone and put Rutgers in a better position to win.

 

[RU#1fan]

Lewis should be a 4 star recruit.
3 star is BS

 

[BrunswickBob]

I don't agree re this offense being more skillset dependent than the pro set, with the exception of a mobile QB being a necessity. All of the other prerequisites are in place for the pro set as well.

Without a strong OL, you're going to have a hard time running the ball. Without a running game to keep defenses honest, it severely limits the passing game. As does a lack of WRs, and we've seen what weakness at QB does to any offense.

I see the power spread as a means to take advantage of a mobile QB, and give defenses an additional option to worry about on all plays.

 

[RU4Real]

I don't agree re this offense being more skillset dependent than the pro set, with the exception of a mobile QB being a necessity. All of the other prerequisites are in place for the pro set as well.

Without a strong OL, you're going to have a hard time running the ball. Without a running game to keep defenses honest, it severely limits the passing game. As does a lack of WRs, and we've seen what weakness at QB does to any offense.

I see the power spread as a means to take advantage of a mobile QB, and give defenses an additional option to worry about on all plays.

The number of QBs who are very mobile and can throw very well is considerably less than the number of QBs who throw very well but aren't very mobile.

 

[BrunswickBob]

The number of QBs who are very mobile and can throw very well is considerably less than the number of QBs who throw very well but aren't very mobile.

No question. That's why I agreed that there is the one additional consideration. I just disagree that there are a litany of additional challenges, or vulnerabilities tied to a lack of other skillsets, and I think the upside of the challenges presented to a defense make it an appealing offense to run, if you can find the right QB to run it.

Throw it all in the hopper and I'd classify it as high risk (because you're limiting your universe of QB options) but high reward as well. If anything I think you can probably make up for deficiencies in other position groups because your QB's value as a weapon is enhanced.

 

[RU4Real]

No question. That's why I agreed that there is the one additional consideration. I just disagree that there are a litany of additional challenges, or vulnerabilities tied to a lack of other skillsets, and I think the upside of the challenges presented to a defense make it an appealing offense to run, if you can find the right QB to run it.

Throw it all in the hopper and I'd classify it as high risk (because you're limiting your universe of QB options) but high reward as well. If anything I think you can probably make up for deficiencies in other position groups because your QB's value as a weapon is enhanced.

To clarify, I never said that the power spread was beset with a litany of additional challenges or vulnerabilities. My point was that if you have the talent sufficient to run the power spread, you can run any other offense just as well or better. I'm not seeing the point, is what I'm saying.

 

[BrunswickBob]

To clarify, I never said that the power spread was beset with a litany of additional challenges or vulnerabilities. My point was that if you have the talent sufficient to run the power spread, you can run any other offense just as well or better. I'm not seeing the point, is what I'm saying.

You don't see that the additional capacity built into the playbook to take advantage of a mobile QB, is an advantage if you have a mobile QB? At the end of the day, it's just a different set of plays and formations. With talent you can run any offense. That's somewhat of an obvious truism.

 

[madchuck]

Laviono was mediocre in the Pro -style offense. His lack of skills was hidden mostly because Carroo was unstoppable. In the spread offense, laviano was almost unbearable to watch. I think QB is the most important position of a spread offense.

 

[GSGS]

That is one very impressive young player. The sky is the limit for Jonathan Lewis, I think he will lead a great turnaround for this program.

 

[PaKnight]

No question. That's why I agreed that there is the one additional consideration. I just disagree that there are a litany of additional challenges, or vulnerabilities tied to a lack of other skillsets, and I think the upside of the challenges presented to a defense make it an appealing offense to run, if you can find the right QB to run it.

Throw it all in the hopper and I'd classify it as high risk (because you're limiting your universe of QB options) but high reward as well. If anything I think you can probably make up for deficiencies in other position groups because your QB's value as a weapon is enhanced.

I question that, more and more high schools are running similar offenses and you don't need the same arm talent that is required to be a pro style QB.

 

[Yeah Baby]

Great to have this kid which I think was the point the OP was making.