Keep the soft OOC schedule

[WPUknight]

I know people on here hate it, but Pike clearly likes to work out all the kinks early without losing games. I'm fine with it.

Each year under Pike this team improves as the season goes on. I'd rather us not take a beating early in the season, lose a ton of games and kill any type of buzz going into conference play. In the first month of this season, we played two decent teams away from home and both were loses.

Keep the soft OOC, work out the kinks and let Pike do what he does best.

 

[bac2therac]

disagree, this team picks up bad habits in ooc games. Next year these are all experienced players. They should be ready to go play in a tourney away from home right from the get go. Program should not be afraid to play top competition just like other league schools do.

 

[jersey07080]

Replace to over the gimmies with one road power 5 and one home power 5

 

[RUJMM78]

I know people on here hate it, but Pike clearly likes to work out all the kinks early without losing games. I'm fine with it.

Each year under Pike this team approves as the season goes on. I'd rather us not take a beating early in the season, lose a ton of games and kill any type of buzz going into conference play. In the first month of this season, we played two decent teams away from home and both were loses.

Keep the soft OOC, work out the kinks and let Pike do what he does best.

St.Bonaventure should be viewed as a bad loss which will be neutralized by defeating Seton Hall.

 

[knights1212]

Next year we should be playing in the Gavitt games and the BIG-ACC Challenge thus already adding one more major game. We also will play Seton Hall at the PRU Center for a total of 3 major games. Maybe we could add one more but I don't think we need to play more than four total major games since we already will play 20 BIG games bringing us to 24 big time games. Seven games with lesser teams is nothing different than most teams play. SHU played a difficult OOC schedule this year but most of Willard's early years coaching SHU his OOC schedule was really easy.

 

[bac2therac]

if RU finishes strong this year unlike other years it could get a solid Gavitt and ACC program, that would change my thinking. I mean if we are getting Virginia or North Carolina for ACC and say Nova or Xavier for Big East thats a significant upgrade

The problem is in these games we have been stuck with lower profile program..good lord Miami 2x, St Johns 2x, De Paul, Fla State, Wake, Clemson, Pitt

 

[JQRU91]

The reason why Pikiell's always had a lot of kinks to work out of his teams here is because we've been constantly trying to upgrade the roster like a patchwork quilt. But we're finally at a point where the roster is good enough and stable that we won't be going through that next year. No reason not to toughen up the schedule then.

 

[e5fdny]

I would prefer every game before the B1G sked aside from a pre-season tourney and Seton Hall (or Princeton) when it’s their turn to host should be at the RAC.

 

[G- RUnit]

20 B1G games plus the Hall plus challenges more than enough. OOC is fine. More curious is if we start getting going to pre-season tourneys like Hawaii, Alaska, Bahamas, etc

 

[bac2therac]

20 B1G games plus the Hall plus challenges more than enough. OOC is fine. More curious is if we start getting going to pre-season tourneys like Hawaii, Alaska, Bahamas, etc

We almost definitely will as the program becomes more attractive.....tourneys at Barclays or Garden

 

[Scarlet Shack]

I don’t know what you guys want

We play 20 big ten games

Add
Seton hall
Big east team in gavitt games
ACC team in big ten/ACC challenge

We are up to 23 power 6 games out of 31...And at least eleven on the road

Schedule 6 bought home games...being mindful of how they will look in the net rankings and then two Atlantic 10 type mid major home and home ...and call it a day

We are arguing over two games. We always will play 6 bought home games like everyone else does. With the hall, and the two big ten challenges games with the big east and acc , we are arguing over two games

At the end of the year ...find out how many teams played more than 23 regular season power confrence games not from the big ten

Answer is....not many

 

[e5fdny]

20 B1G games plus the Hall plus challenges more than enough. OOC is fine. More curious is if we start getting going to pre-season tourneys like Hawaii, Alaska, Bahamas, etc

We almost definitely will as the program becomes more attractive.....tourneys at Barclays or Garden

That’s fine.

But other than Shoe and hopefully Princeton someday, would prefer all at the RAC. No series or home and homes other than those two.

 

[goru7]

St.Bonaventure should be viewed as a bad loss which will be neutralized by defeating Seton Hall.

At the end of the year St . Bonnie’s on a pseudo neutral court will not be viewed as a bad loss and will be mostly irrelevant. Do some research without making blanket ridiculous statements. The only way it is viewed as a bad loss is if they lose the rest of their games. So stop the nonsense.

 

[Mr Magoo]

Just because we are playing well now doesn’t mean we should keep the cupcake schedule. Who knows, we could be even better right now if we were challenged more.

 

[ScarletDave]

Yea an 8-6 3-1 Rutgers team with losses to Texas, USC etc would not be getting near the hype nor the ranking we have. This is the perfect formula

 

[bac2therac]

I don’t know what you guys want

We play 20 big ten games

Add
Seton hall
Big east team in gavitt games
ACC team in big ten/ACC challenge

We are up to 23 power 6 games out of 31...And at least eleven on the road

Schedule 6 bought home games...being mindful of how they will look in the net rankings and then two Atlantic 10 type mid major home and home ...and call it a day

We are arguing over two games. We always will play 6 bought home games like everyone else does. With the hall, and the two big ten challenges games with the big east and acc , we are arguing over two games

At the end of the year ...find out how many teams played more than 23 regular season power confrence games not from the big ten

Answer is....not many

As of now RUs non conference schedule comes in 8th out of 14 schools. Definitely better than its been but coukd be better going forward. Note we are benefiting alot by SF Austin...they have been good in the past but not sure anyone thought they would be this good in the NET and beating Duke.

I despise games vs middle to bottom A10 schools as there is no positive to it. Its not like we are playing Dayton.

 

[bac2therac]

Yea an 8-6 3-1 Rutgers team with losses to Texas, USC etc would not be getting near the hype nor the ranking we have. This is the perfect formula

And yet Minnesota with that same record is projected in the tourney...and we lost to a bad team. Id rather lose to Wichita State than St Bonaventure
Ranking means nothing now..there are 16 games to be played. All i care about is making the ncaa not hype

 

[Jerzey11]

Switch someone out with Princeton and we're fine for the foreseeable future.

 

[RutgHoops]

And yet Minnesota with that same record is projected in the tourney...and we lost to a bad team. Id rather lose to Wichita State than St Bonaventure
Ranking means nothing now..there are 16 games to be played. All i care about is making the ncaa not hype

Didn't you post in another thread that you didn't think a 16-14/10-10 Minnesota team would get in?

I agree with @Scarlet Shack. Tell me exactly what Minnesota got out of: Cleve State (W), Oklahoma (neutral site- L), @Butler (L), @Utah (L), Cent Michigan (W), North Dakota (W), Depaul (L), Clemson (W), @OK St (W), FIU (W).

To me they got a 6-4 record and quite possibly a scenario where anything other than a better than .500 finish in the #1` rated league in the country means the NIT.

 

[bac2therac]

it gave them a sos of 8 overall and in non conference...if you do not think that matters than I dont know what to tell you. The Big 10 is a strong conference no doubt but you always want to also schedule a pretty tough OOC. Maybe Minnesota isnt a tourney team this year, maybe they are. Maybe the tough ooc made them better.

no I dont think 16-14 Minnesota gets in but just like Indiana last year a 18-15 type Minnesota will be in strong consideration. The SOS does that. Its the type of wins they get in the Big 10 that will determine whether they get in.

again as I said SF Austin with their 43 NET is an aberration, its like RU scheduling Florida and beating them. That win they had over Duke which would only happen maybe 1 in 20 times changed everything..and yes they are a good team. I highly doubt that Pike will be scheduling them next year

 

[bac2therac]

Princeton and their 191 net and potential for a loss higher than normal..hard pass

 

[Rhuarc]

I was trying to save my 3,000th post for something special, but whatever.

Growing the program means growing the schedule. It should be done incrementally as long as recruiting continues to grow and our previous year record is strong. You can pick off one scrub school a year for a 1 for 1 midlevel, high major school. I think it's very important to not be stagnant and continue to make this a place for Pike to want to stay at as the vultures come poaching.

 

[RutgHoops]

it gave them a sos of 8 overall and in non conference...if you do not think that matters than I dont know what to tell you. The Big 10 is a strong conference no doubt but you always want to also schedule a pretty tough OOC. Maybe Minnesota isnt a tourney team this year, maybe they are. Maybe the tough ooc made them better.

no I dont think 16-14 Minnesota gets in but just like Indiana last year a 18-15 type Minnesota will be in strong consideration. The SOS does that. Its the type of wins they get in the Big 10 that will determine whether they get in.

Do you think a 19-12/10-10 Rutgers team will get in? I do. And I think I agree that a 16-14/10-10 Minnesota team doesn't. It is actually the perfect case of why our OOC is pretty darn spot on when you play in this league. Wins matter more than SOS (imo) when your overall SOS is going to find it itself at a representative level due to playing 20 (v 18) league games in a top 2 or 3 league (this year #1 league).

It (SOS) matters if you are striving for a Top 4 seed in the tournament. If you are one of the other 30 or so other teams just trying to "get in" I think a tough OOC has the potential to hurt much more than it does to help. Just my opinion.

 

[Loyal_2RU]

That’s fine.

But other than Shoe and hopefully Princeton someday, would prefer all at the RAC. No series or home and homes other than those two.

Would like intersectional series. UCLA, Arizona, etc

 

[e5fdny]

Would like intersectional series. UCLA, Arizona, etc

Like the B1G vs. ACC thing? Sure.

As a regular game? Eh.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Princeton and their 191 net and potential for a loss higher than normal..hard pass

No MORE Princeton ..and if it has to happen, it’s 2 for 1 or don’t play

 

[RUJMM78]

At the end of the year St . Bonnie’s on a pseudo neutral court will not be viewed as a bad loss and will be mostly irrelevant. Do some research without making blanket ridiculous statements. The only way it is viewed as a bad loss is if they lose the rest of their games. So stop the nonsense.

Your last sentence is utter nonsense making the statement a bad loss can only be viewed if St.Bonaventure loses all their remaining games.This is a message board where fans express opinions at a given point in time yet there is a small segment who always want to start a back and forth fight over wording.

 

[Scarlet Blind]

After a 1-4 start, St Bonaventure is 9-5 and NET #147, all other computer rankings have them 100-120. They have 4 Q1 games all road against Dayton, VCU, Duquesne and St. Louis, and 2 Q2 games at home Richmond and Duquesne. 6 Q3 and 4 Q4. They have a good chance to become a Q2 loss by the end of the year needing 100.

 

[AshCatchEm]

You say that now.

Nebraska in 2017 had 22 wins and was 13-5 in the big ten. They had to go to the NIT because of a shit OOC schedule.

You want that. Really? Please be rational.

And you people talking about the tournament at 17 wins are completely out of touch with reality.

 

[BoroKnight]

The bottom line is that each year is going to be different based on the other teams competing for spots in the tourney. What kills you on one Selection Sunday isn't even a factor on another.

Last year, N.C. State crowed about its great NET ranking, but playing nobody -- and I mean nobody -- out of the conference left them on the outside looking in, and whining about it. What, the ACC is a mid-major now? If it can happen to an ACC school, it can happen to a Big Ten school.

Look, we don't need to play five games against great programs every year. But one really attractive home game and a decent holiday tournament are not exactly too much to ask.

 

[e5fdny]

The bottom line is that each year is going to be different based on the other teams competing for spots in the tourney. What kills you on one Selection Sunday isn't even a factor on another.

Last year, N.C. State crowed about its great NET ranking, but playing nobody -- and I mean nobody -- out of the conference left them on the outside looking in, and whining about it. What, the ACC is a mid-major now? If it can happen to an ACC school, it can happen to a Big Ten school.

Look, we don't need to play five games against great programs every year. But one really attractive home game and a decent holiday tournament are not exactly too much to ask.

As long as we don’t have to make a return trip...I’m good.

There are a lot more good, attractive Basketball programs than Football (where it’s harder to do) so we could just buy someone to come here.

 

[bac2therac]

Being how tough the RAC has become again its going to be tough for any Power 5 schools to be lured in....our best bet is 2 or 3 game neutral site tourney where you can pick up critical road/neutral wins

 

[centraljerseycat]

Nothing major just some tweaking...no more Caldwell or any other non-D1 games. Then bring back Princeton and an annual Thanksgiving tournament somewhere warm.