Looks like we have a QB!
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Laviano only throws to Leonte, lol
We have a QB! It is Laviano! We heard for the months and months that he is our leader!!!! Believe!!! (I can't let the utter incompetence of Kyle go; the combination of his ineptitude and arrogance has sadly been dominant over the past several years--including his great stint as co-offensive coordinator where his talent was on display).
Why? Does Allen only run 5 yard routes?
I posted this on the other Allen thread. Don't jump to the conclusion that he is going to move right in to the role of starter. Between his redshirt year and his two years as a backup he has not been under center in a game speed situation for three years. Look what has happened to Rettig because of the lack of playing time. Hopefully he is the answer but I do not believe it is a given based on his lack of real experience at this level.
What exactly happened to Rettig? We don't know how good he was or is. But I do agree ZA is not a shoe in to start.
Always good to see the usual suspects making a fools of themselves. Not you Dpgry the idiots above.
I still wouldn't be surprised if laviano is the starter . I am a Rutgers fan and used to torture .
Yes.
It's nice to have some competition and push CL or Rettig.
Even if Allen only gets time as the placeholder it should push up the bar at QB.
Allen seems to have a terrific team first attitude. He holds for kicks; wide receiver , etc. His presence on the team will be a plus no matter what he does on the playing field..You build a winner with kids like this...
I am referring to the myriad threads at the end of the spring workouts in which the anti Laviano crowd was blasting Flood for not playing Rettig. They kept saying that the only reason it was an even competition was the Rettig wasn't given a chance and that he would have been much better had he played last year. And now we have a QB who hasn't played in three years (yes, he has thrown two passes) and it seems that everyone believes he will move right in and start. Shouldn't those same posters be saying the same thing they said for Rettig? Personally I don't think playing last year would have made a big difference for Rettig because this is a totally different system. Allen however is supposed to be a spread QB. So his lack of playing experience at this level could be a factor. All I am saying is he really hasn't played since HS so let's wait to see if he is BIG ready.
Don't know why people keep falling for the same thing year after year, Laviano's problem was never in practice wearing a green jersey, his problem is between his ears when someone is coming at him in live action as Ash and staff will find out if they choose to go with Laviano first. I'm ok with this because unlike Flood, this staff will not hesitate to yank him when that time comes.
Yes. It's all about developing these QB s in this new offense, and having them COMPETE. Recruiting another QB to develop and compete will make the competition better.
I'm not ok with Laviano starting. Ash has watched every minute of every game last year. So why waste time with Laviano then praise the coach for removing him! Laviano has no potential to win here regardless of the offense. So throwing away ANY TIME.... is not prudent. When there are 3 gentlemen--Allen, Rettig, and Oden--why throw the first half of the Washington game--go down 21-3.... Then praise coach for putting in Allen or Rettig! Enough of the nonsense.
Allen has thrown 2 passes in three years of college and is suddenly the starter?
let him prove it in camp
let him prove it in camp
after his third run he'll have won the job. by just being able to gain yards with his feet, it almost guarantees he will start unless oden runs away with the job
Oh give it a rest with the Hayden-love. He has a whole new coaching staff giving him even competition to win the starting job and he's neck in neck with someone everyone has pegged as mediocre at best. This means Rettig is mediocre at best. It's the same thing as Dom Natale or Ralph Sacca who 'should have' won more playing time.
Amen. People are so stupid with this. They refuse to see what is right in front of their faces. Give Laviano a break. Kid works his ass off, and people just bash him relentlessly. They blame him, as if that somehow makes sense.
Of course its valid to criticize the prior staff for not benching Laviano when he was struggling. But if you think any QB on roster is head and shoulders better than the others, you are out of your mind.
Not exactly true. He played some very good Football in live games when we had Carroo in the lineup and even without him at the end against Indiana. One BIG coach said he struggles at times to see what is coming at him. I'll agree with that. They also said we had good RB's but they also could not perform against the better BIG teams either. In fact, Laviano and Carroo (mainly Carroo) did better against Mich St than our RB's did. Same with Nova the year before against Michigan. I beg all of you to look at every position on the field in those horrible losses and not just the QB. If nothing is working, the QB looks very, very bad. That is Football. But tell me who played well in those games aside from Carroo? Maybe one or two guys on the OL did okay depending on the matchups. The RB's did what they could. But if 7 guys are losing the battle then the Defense wins.
On the other side of the ball, Lambert stacked up against the top tier BIG pretty well along with Gause and Longa. Other guys were playing hurt and out of position so again, if 8 guys are losing the battle the Offense wins.
If you can only sit here and judge the QB in those games you are doing yourselves and the game a big disservice. This is not directed to you Oldman because I laugh out loud at most of your comments. I am just quoting you because I agreed and disagreed about the in between the ears comment. Yes, he and Nova had some issues with getting clobbered when they were not protected well. That happens to many QB's in the NFL too. Look at Eli. Two Super Bowl Rings but some days he looks very bad. That's Football.
Thanks to both of you for articulating the issues in an unbiased and rational manner. Some seem to be hung up on attacking and putting down on our existing personnel, particularly our QBs. We are running a new system, and trying to fit QBs into a system they are not familiar with. Did people expect Rettig or Laviano to execute flawlessly in the Spring game in a new system?
In one of the other threads where people were annointing Zach Allen as the QB savior, I made a comment about people would be happy if Laviano packed his bags because Allen already walks on water, to which someone replied:
"The extent to which you seem to resent people who are optimistic that we can find a better option at QB is somewhat odd."o_O
Great Post Baby!
I agree, look no further than Eli Manning with no tight end and a turn style at one tackle.
Very well said.
Looking for whoever gives RU the best chance to win every week!!!
If Laviano or others don't have it any given week it needs to be next man up..
I doubt Ash is anointing him the starter and is probably aware that 1 or 2 QBs on the roster will be leaving (maybe nudged out, who knows?). This will give him 3 QBs to compete for the starting job. One has game experience, one has a live arm and one is a dual threat. Should make for an interesting camp.
You make a good argument for Laviano Yeah Baby but you're cherry picking situations to fit your argument and blaming his teammates for his own shortcomings when in fact, Laviano himself was terrible by any measurement. Like I said in my previous post, I'm no longer stressed about our QB situation because Flood is no longer making the decisions, Ash is. Let's see what happens in a few months, if Laviano truly is the best QB on the roster, so be it.
Wow talk about cherry picking...
1. My argument is not for Laviano it is against fans who blame the QB for everything. It's known as low Footvall IQ.
B. I did not blame his teammates. I said everyone was overmatched except for a handful of players. He was one of those who were overmatched. I did not say otherwise.
3. For the record I will back whoever is on the field and on the sidelines for RU. He may or may not be our best option with the new system.
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