Maryland host Stony Brook on BTN on tuesday. Btw, what going on with Stony Brook? They are struggling to start the season. Also, Maryland is good, but young. It's Melo Trimble doing the bulk of the scoring.
Maryland and Stony Brook
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Watched the Maryland - Georgetown game this past week. Liked what I saw from Maryland and yes, Trimble down the stretch was the go to guy. They lose a lot from last year's team, Layman, Carter, Stone, Sulaimon, however, felt that last year the individual components were more talented than the sum of its parts. Watched a ton of their games, felt they under-achieved and should have had more success. This year, their players have an opportunity to get better as the season goes on. I was impressed by their 2 freshmen, Cowan and Justin Jackson
Besides losing Pikiell, Stony Brook should have hired Jay Young as its HC. Their loss is our gain and from what I understand - Jay Young is the real deal. Also didn't Stony Brook lose its star player - forget his name but he had NBA teams looking at him?
Very fair assessment. Part of what frustrates me about Turgeon is my inability to really be upset with him.
One one hand, he has 115 wins (50 conference wins) in five seasons. That's more wins than Lefty and Gary through five. He's won 25 games or more in three out of the last four seasons, won more Big Ten games than every school except MSU since joining, and has a Big Ten COY award under his belt already. He recruits very well. In pretty short order, Maryland has gone from the slim pickins of Gary's last years to being the place the best players in the state want to play and where four- and five-star players from across the country visit and sign.
Then I watch him in in-game situations and develop players over time and it's like....
I'm not saying Mark Turgeon doesn't have an offensive philosophy, I'm just saying that he's in his sixth season and I'm still trying to figure it out.
Last year's team was built to be a Final Four team. That was the stated goal. But they we're knocked out in the Sweet 16 by a Kansas team that also had their sights on a Final Four. Kansas was clearly superior.
It doesn't seem to matter if his teams are built big or small, experienced or young, lead by stars or has a more balanced talent level, they all win close games. He's the constant in that underachieving. With that said, he's clearly not near anyone's hot seat and shouldn't be. In fact, Maryland just re-upped his contract.
It'll be interesting to see what comes of this year's team. Sure, Maryland lost a lot of talent (and experience) over the summer, but this is what Turge has to work with before his bench begins to drop:
- a junior All-American (four-star recruit)
- two talented, experienced juniors (both four-stars)
- a talented sophomore with international experience (averaged 10.3/5.3/2.0 in three 2013 U19 World Championship games for the Croatian National Team before going down with a torn ACL)
- three really impressive freshman (all four-star recruits, one with U19 international experience w/ Team USA)
- a fourth-year big man who is a proven shot blocking threat (three star, top-100 player)
I don't think any coach is crying a river for Maryland's talent level.
Very fair assessment. Part of what frustrates me about Turgeon is my inability to really be upset with him.
One one hand, he has 115 wins (50 conference wins) in five seasons. That's more wins than Lefty and Gary through five. He's won 25 games or more in three out of the last four seasons, won more Big Ten games than every school except MSU since joining, and has a Big Ten COY award under his belt already. He recruits very well. In pretty short order, Maryland has gone from the slim pickins of Gary's last years to being the place the best players in the state want to play and where four- and five-star players from across the country visit and sign.
Then I watch him in in-game situations and develop players over time and it's like....
I'm not saying Mark Turgeon doesn't have an offensive philosophy, I'm just saying that he's in his sixth season and I'm still trying to figure it out.
Last year's team was built to be a Final Four team. That was the stated goal. But they we're knocked out in the Sweet 16 by a Kansas team that also had their sights on a Final Four. Kansas was clearly superior.
It doesn't seem to matter if his teams are built big or small, experienced or young, lead by stars or has a more balanced talent level, they all win close games. He's the constant in that underachieving. With that said, he's clearly not near anyone's hot seat and shouldn't be. In fact, Maryland just re-upped his contract.
It'll be interesting to see what comes of this year's team. Sure, Maryland lost a lot of talent (and experience) over the summer, but this is what Turge has to work with before his bench begins to drop:
- a junior All-American (four-star recruit)
- two talented, experienced juniors (both four-stars)
- a talented sophomore with international experience (averaged 10.3/5.3/2.0 in three 2013 U19 World Championship games for the Croatian National Team before going down with a torn ACL)
- three really impressive freshman (all four-star recruits, one with U19 international experience w/ Team USA)
- a fourth-year big man who is a proven shot blocking threat (three star, top-100 player)
I don't think any coach is crying a river for Maryland's talent level.
Bingethinker - I'm assuming you're a Maryland fan? It's like you're a guy with a Ferrari complaint about your Ferrari to a guy that uses a used bike to get to work 20 miles away every day.
Bingethinker, great information on Maryland basketball.
Really started watching the Maryland games when our schools joined the B1G and have been amazed at Maryland's talent level. Also, love how the student section is structured with The Wall. Incredible student and fan support. Need to catch a game at the Xfinity Center sooner rather than later.
Really started watching the Maryland games when our schools joined the B1G and have been amazed at Maryland's talent level. Also, love how the student section is structured with The Wall. Incredible student and fan support. Need to catch a game at the Xfinity Center sooner rather than later.
Very fair assessment. Part of what frustrates me about Turgeon is my inability to really be upset with him.
One one hand, he has 115 wins (50 conference wins) in five seasons. That's more wins than Lefty and Gary through five. He's won 25 games or more in three out of the last four seasons, won more Big Ten games than every school except MSU since joining, and has a Big Ten COY award under his belt already. He recruits very well. In pretty short order, Maryland has gone from the slim pickins of Gary's last years to being the place the best players in the state want to play and where four- and five-star players from across the country visit and sign.
Then I watch him in in-game situations and develop players over time and it's like....
I'm not saying Mark Turgeon doesn't have an offensive philosophy, I'm just saying that he's in his sixth season and I'm still trying to figure it out.
Last year's team was built to be a Final Four team. That was the stated goal. But they we're knocked out in the Sweet 16 by a Kansas team that also had their sights on a Final Four. Kansas was clearly superior.
It doesn't seem to matter if his teams are built big or small, experienced or young, lead by stars or has a more balanced talent level, they all win close games. He's the constant in that underachieving. With that said, he's clearly not near anyone's hot seat and shouldn't be. In fact, Maryland just re-upped his contract.
It'll be interesting to see what comes of this year's team. Sure, Maryland lost a lot of talent (and experience) over the summer, but this is what Turge has to work with before his bench begins to drop:
- a junior All-American (four-star recruit)
- two talented, experienced juniors (both four-stars)
- a talented sophomore with international experience (averaged 10.3/5.3/2.0 in three 2013 U19 World Championship games for the Croatian National Team before going down with a torn ACL)
- three really impressive freshman (all four-star recruits, one with U19 international experience w/ Team USA)
- a fourth-year big man who is a proven shot blocking threat (three star, top-100 player)
I don't think any coach is crying a river for Maryland's talent level.
I have one son who graduated from U. of MD and another there now and they both see it the same way.
A legend at Stony Brook, and now a Legend in Texas (D-League).
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