Michigan football spring trip to Rome
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Maybe he can sign Gigi Buffoon as a kicker?
Okay on a serious note this has DANGER written all over it IMHO. College boys running around Rome for a week? Yeah...good luck with that...what's next, Amsterdam?
Maybe he can sign Gigi Buffoon as a kicker?
Okay on a serious note this has DANGER written all over it IMHO. College boys running around Rome for a week? Yeah...good luck with that...what's next, Amsterdam?
It's almost as if no male college student has studied abroad before...
Seems odd for football - but - Don't some university basketball teams do things like this?
Basketball plays teams though, and it's useful since Europe has good basketball teams. Michigan is going for drills
What is the loophole that will allow them to get around a rule that prohibits teams from traveling off-campus to practice during a period outside of the sport's season? I suppose they could go on vacations and not practice, but it sounds like you're suggesting the practices will continue.
Add this to the list of things the other teams do with the extra $30 million
Close, that's studying a broad not studying abroad
Maybe Michigan will hire Rick Steves as the 10th coach.
What?:confused: I've heard downtown Camden is quite lovely this time of year and rivals Rome in the summer.
Figured it was only 'kinda like basketball'
- can't predict the future - but have a hunch that before it is all done Harbaugh's stunts will create more enemies for himself - & for Michigan than they are worth.
wonder if NCAA might put this under microscope - ponder whether it constitutes "inappropriate benefit"
Because it's not during a break period.
It's also open to all student athletes (not just football) and offers the ability to study in these locations and earn credit. The locations will vary and student athletes can choose in the future where they want to study. Not sure how they could ever close this "loophole" even so, it wouldn't be long until UM just opens satellite facilities/campuses all over the world. It's Italy so they aren't going there to get recruits but it can certainly be a recruiting ploy deep down, but it's also a good opportunity for all athletes there. Something they can do when their football team alone nets 50M a year. People want to cry about players not being paid and then cry about a school actually investing their millions made off their athletes back into their athletes. This is pretty damn good benefit in addition to a scholarship. Good for them. Everyone wants to put everything in a football related box. This won't be the deciding factor of any recruit but it is a great thing to offer STUDENT athletes. How can this even be argued other than the fact that we can't/won't do it? College sports aren't fair. Never have been. This is why Hairball gets paid so damn much. He goes all out in everything.
It's not different than a lot of other college sports training in other locations. But because it's Harbaugh the NCAA tried to stop it in football only? I also wouldn't be surprised to see most schools abandon the NCAA in football in the future. They serve no purpose and pursue petty things likes satellite camps and these practices ASAP while letting actual cheaters slide and allowing plenty of contradictory things happen (No practices during breaks! The student athletes! But all the sports that are during breaks, including bowl season, the first week of football etc. is fine!). Michigan won't pay players like most big time schools but they will do this. The only way you can compete within the rules with the SEC, some ACC/B12 teams and the Ohio State's of the world. A position we can only dream to be in as of now.
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Contrary to what some people think this will not be an annual thing. The new rule will ban them from having practices like these. They may continue to offer study abroad programs, but they will not be able to take the entire team and they will not be permitted to pay for the transportation as that would be a violation of existing rules.
Sounds good, because we know it's all about the kids for Jim. How about next year an all expenses paid study trip around the world. That's not an unfair advantage at all.:rolleyes: If ya got it spend it, fvck fair play, it's all about the kids.
I hate to admit they have a lot more than an extra 30 million. We will get there, one day..
believe that if it is open to open to "all student athletes" it will have to be the same financial arrangement for all - can't pick & choose who gets to go for free and who does not - if free for some - it is free for all ... or all have to pay 'fair value'
I've heard differently;
"The plan – not necessarily in response to the NCAA’s legislation, though it probably is – is to take the team to Rome, Italy this spring for a week of spring ball, followed by study abroad for several members of the football team (not just limited to Rome).
This has been in the works since last fall but a trip like this requires plenty of planning and great detail. Team doctors were told to get their passports ready, etc., and to prepare.
This doesn’t violate any NCAA rules – and the feeling is that the NCAA shouldn’t frown upon it given that this is an option open to all student-athletes. U-M’s strong international presence is one aspect that makes this possible, and it’s been unbelievably well received by many.
Michigan coaches expect to make this an annual trip overseas to different locations, not just a one-year deal, and this has been extremely well received on the recruiting trail ... and by the kids.
It’s not just a week, either. Student-athletes will get the ability to stay overseas for three weeks after and earn school credit while studying abroad as part of the experience. Several have chosen Israel, others Germany, etc., and they’ll get a chance to see the world while studying."
The new NCAA rule is pretty vague. It only prohibits football practice (and football only for some odd reason) away from campus during a scheduled break (like spring break which is when they did their FL trip last year). These are not going to be done during a scheduled academic break which is why they won't be doing a spring game like most teams do during this period. It's also not just football. So if the NCAA wants to step in they'll have to disallow this for all sports and disallow all study abroad programs for student athletes which is pretty knee-jerk over one coach and screws over the very kids they're supposed to be protecting. But then again they've been knee-jerk over a few things just because of this one coach already because uncle Nicky and the SEC complained.
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If you're lobbying for a level playing field in college sports especially football, you're way out of your league. Even if everyone was given the same amount of money and somehow weren't paying players under the table certain schools would still be so behind the 8-ball it wouldn't even be funny. There's built in advantages at many schools that go far beyond money and benefits. If you got it spend it, absolutely. Why wouldn't you? You don't got to like it it but it is legal for now. I'd rather teams did this than the Ole Miss stuff quite frankly. I can guarantee you every team in the SEC has done more cheating in the last year than Michigan has done in the last 100 but because it's behind the scenes no one cares. Michigan just has a coach that is willing to put his balls in the NCAA's face within the rules and I admit which is why I may be coming off as a UM slappy, I kinda freaking like it in that regard. F the NCAA.
I just don't understand the hatred for a guy doing things that are technically allowed. Hate him for his sideline tantrums like most of us do. But you can't fault the guy for stuff like this just because he coaches a different team and we can't do it. If Rutgers/Ash announced this, it'd be the greatest thing in the history of coaching. Would you rather them sit on the 50M they make off these kids? It really is good for the kids, especially in the non-profit sports, you can't deny it. But you can be envious which I am and most of us are if we're being honest because you also can't deny a potential recruiting perk no matter if it's legal or not.
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So your offering all expenses paid trips to Europe for all your students, not just the football players. And if not you don't see this as an athletic advantage? Interesting. So trips are OK but buying cars and houses not OK. Seems to me your train of thought is more what ever um does is fine, but what the rest do isn't.
I find his antics childish. Let's see what I can get away with next. That's childish not something to enamor like you are doing. His winning yes, but these are antics only a child could love. I feel a lot of um fans are simply tolerating his antics because they want to win. His antics wear thin where ever he goes eventually. But go ahead and adore him and his childish antics if you like.
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Starting to see this more in sports.
ND's lacrosse team for instance trained for a week in Fla. this year.
ND's lacrosse team for instance trained for a week in Fla. this year.
We could do this on the cheap... partner with university of Hawaii and swap facilities for three weeks. Our guys get 3 weeks in Hawaii, they get 3 weeks in NY/NJ.
Might be neat to set up a network of schools--University of Washington, Stanford, USC, Maryland, and Northwestern. Teams could spend time near Seattle, San Francisco, LA, DC, and Chicago.
Might be neat to set up a network of schools--University of Washington, Stanford, USC, Maryland, and Northwestern. Teams could spend time near Seattle, San Francisco, LA, DC, and Chicago.
Football players and athletes in general generate a ton of revenue for the school. And they're going to visit an orphanage and U.S. troops on top of all the other stuff.
Its an amazing opportunity for the student athletes who spend so much of their time training, generate positive revenue for the school, and don't see why you have sour grapes. If Rutgers were doing this you'd be happy.
What is to stop a school from doing what Northwood University does. They have a Michigan and a Florida campus. While separate and not involved with football it is possible that a Syracuse, Northwestern, or other private school can set up a satellite campus in a warm weather recruiting hotbed. Then the football team can be enrolled in their spring semester in that location where they can practice and be near recruits. it wouldn't be any different from a Rutgers New Brunswick student taking classes in Camden or Newark.
FDU has a campus in the UK. I am surprised they don't use it to recruit soccer players.
FDU has a campus in the UK. I am surprised they don't use it to recruit soccer players.
People attack Harbaugh, but he is driving change in the NCAA by making them look foolish when they say it is all about the student athlete, yet the student athlete gets none of the billions generated in college football. These acts by the NCAA to stop him are the dying acts of a crumbling empire.
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