One change that would help us greatly

[RUhasarrived]

The restoration of freshmen ineligibility would leave the football factories with only 2 years of playing their 5 star players before they head off to the NFL.

Another change would be to allow players up to 6 years to graduate,5 to play.

A team of late maturing 6th year seniors vs a team featuring 19 year old 5 star players would stand a much better chance that what we now have.

Scholarship limits would have to be raised back to 105.

If they really want to ensure the emphasis on education and on competition,the NCAA should adopt these two measures.

As with any proposal,I'm sure there are some drawbacks,but on balance it's better than what we have today with the same two dozen teams winning for a century.

 

[SHUSource]

If they really want to ensure the emphasis on education and on competition,the NCAA should adopt these two measures.

There's your answer. Any intersection of academic and athletics is purely coincidental.

 

[mildone]

Underwear?

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

One change that would help us greatly...

it already happen.

 

[PSU_Nut]

The restoration of freshmen ineligibility would leave the football factories with only 2 years of playing their 5 star players before they head off to the NFL.

Another change would be to allow players up to 6 years to graduate,5 to play.

A team of late maturing 6th year seniors vs a team featuring 19 year old 5 star players would stand a much better chance that what we now have.

Scholarship limits would have to be raised back to 105.

If they really want to ensure the emphasis on education and on competition,the NCAA should adopt these two measures.

As with any proposal,I'm sure there are some drawbacks,but on balance it's better than what we have today with the same two dozen teams winning for a century.

Will never happen. The schools don't want the expense of carrying scholarship kids for one year when they can't be used. What is more likely is the elimination of redshirting all together. A player has 5 years to play 5 years. There have been a couple of proposals that have been tossed around.

Personally the change I would like to see is eliminate scholarship limit. Just go to a straight limit on the number of new scholarship player. Each year you get 25 new scholarship players. They can be any combination of walk on, transfer, freshmen ect.

If every player leaves after 3 years then you will have 75 scholarship players. If all stay 5 years then you have 125 scholarship players.

 

[koleszar]

Personally the change I would like to see is eliminate scholarship limit. Just go to a straight limit on the number of new scholarship player. Each year you get 25 new scholarship players. They can be any combination of walk on, transfer, freshmen ect.

If every player leaves after 3 years then you will have 75 scholarship players. If all stay 5 years then you have 125 scholarship players.

Actually this is not a bad idea at all, now that I think about it. Kids would no longer be forced to leave or like SEC schools do put them on hardship scholarships. Every school has kids leave early for the NFL some more than others but not to the point where it would be a distinct disadvantage. Would save a lot of kids the heart ache of being forced out do to not preforming.

 

[mildone]

Personally the change I would like to see is eliminate scholarship limit. Just go to a straight limit on the number of new scholarship player. Each year you get 25 new scholarship players. They can be any combination of walk on, transfer, freshmen ect.

If every player leaves after 3 years then you will have 75 scholarship players. If all stay 5 years then you have 125 scholarship players.

That's an interesting idea.

 

[rucoe89]

Will never happen. The schools don't want the expense of carrying scholarship kids for one year when they can't be used. What is more likely is the elimination of redshirting all together. A player has 5 years to play 5 years. There have been a couple of proposals that have been tossed around.

Personally the change I would like to see is eliminate scholarship limit. Just go to a straight limit on the number of new scholarship player. Each year you get 25 new scholarship players. They can be any combination of walk on, transfer, freshmen ect.

If every player leaves after 3 years then you will have 75 scholarship players. If all stay 5 years then you have 125 scholarship players.

Pretty interesting idea that would be worth further evaluating, mainly in terms of how it would be gamed. To start with I would drop number to 20 per year and round the number to 100. This should financially be more pallatable to schools than 125 if numbers are maxed. One issue may be will you have teams recruiting players from other schools in order to ensure they get to their max limit for that class year?

 

[mildone]

Underwear?

It's alright buddy. It was a very funny and concise post. There, there. Now, now.

 

[PSU_Nut]

Pretty interesting idea that would be worth further evaluating, mainly in terms of how it would be gamed. To start with I would drop number to 20 per year and round the number to 100. This should financially be more pallatable to schools than 125 if numbers are maxed. One issue may be will you have teams recruiting players from other schools in order to ensure they get to their max limit for that class year?

That wouldn't happen because a transfer would count for the year they enrolled. It based on date of enrollment not based on class.
For example Rutgers get a Player A who is a Jr from Pitt to transfer and enrolls in fall 2016. Rutgers may now only add 24 new scholarship players. You can't back date guys to fill previous classes.

 

[PSU_Nut]

Actually this is not a bad idea at all, now that I think about it. Kids would no longer be forced to leave or like SEC schools do put them on hardship scholarships. Every school has kids leave early for the NFL some more than others but not to the point where it would be a distinct disadvantage. Would save a lot of kids the heart ache of being forced out do to not preforming.

Correct. No advantage to run kids off and incentive to keep them eligible. It also makes schools take a closer look at who they are bringing. Now if a kids gets arrested it no big deal. Just find another body to replace them. Under the current system coaches really have 40 replacements ready every five years.

I think it would also help with basketball. It now would be risky taking a bunch of one and done players. Give them 3 a year.

 

[czxqa]

Personally the change I would like to see is eliminate scholarship limit. Just go to a straight limit on the number of new scholarship player. Each year you get 25 new scholarship players. They can be any combination of walk on, transfer, freshmen ect.

If every player leaves after 3 years then you will have 75 scholarship players. If all stay 5 years then you have 125 scholarship players.

Scholarship limits came about because of Bear Bryant. He had a habit of giving kids scholarships when he knew they would never see the field just to keep them from going to Auburn. No way the NCAA goes on that direction.
Then again, I never thought Congress would be stupid enough to repeal Glass-Steagall so who knows

 

[withoutregard]

a stud QB

 

[Ataylor1989x]

Freshman ineligibility PLUS a small NFL developmental league would benefit college athletics by decreasing the number of athletes that have no interest in education.

Imagine the TV ratings if the NFL Developmental League (imagine six regional teams) played on Tuesday nights. ESPN would love that.

 

[WhiteBus]

So the NCAA is going to restore freshman ineligibility so Rutgers doesn't get it ass beat so bad by the big schools. Yes sounds like you really thought this one out completely [eyeroll]

 

[Ataylor1989x]

So the NCAA is going to restore freshman ineligibility so Rutgers doesn't get it ass beat so bad by the big schools.....

The NCAA would consider doing it because the professionalization is getting more and more extreme every year.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ference-commissioners-at-least-considering-it

 

[LC-88]

Title IX would kill any increase in football scholarships.

 

[vkj91]

It's kind of happening right now. With the new SAT score/credit/GPA rules many kids will be NCAA eligible bit not allowed to play their freshman year. I know at least three kids who thunk they will qualify but forced to RS.

 

[PSU_Nut]

Scholarship limits came about because of Bear Bryant. He had a habit of giving kids scholarships when he knew they would never see the field just to keep them from going to Auburn. No way the NCAA goes on that direction.
Then again, I never thought Congress would be stupid enough to repeal Glass-Steagall so who knows

That practice was not limited to Alabama. It was a huge problem. My proposal still limits scholarships but limits them in a completely different manner that takes out any reward for running off players. Theoretically my proposal has a max scholarship level of 125. In reality most schools would likely carry about 85.

 

[PSU_Nut]

The NCAA would consider doing it because the professionalization is getting more and more extreme every year.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ference-commissioners-at-least-considering-it

The ADs nod Presidents are not stupid. They will float these kind of ideas out periodically to keep the image up. In reality everyone knows they were not serious.

 

[WhiteBus]

The NCAA would consider doing it because the professionalization is getting more and more extreme every year.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ference-commissioners-at-least-considering-it

Did you read the story? This is a basketball issue with the NCAA not a football problem. The easier fix is get the NBA to have the same rules as the NFL.

 

[rucoe89]

Correct. No advantage to run kids off and incentive to keep them eligible. It also makes schools take a closer look at who they are bringing. Now if a kids gets arrested it no big deal. Just find another body to replace them. Under the current system coaches really have 40 replacements ready every five years.

I think it would also help with basketball. It now would be risky taking a bunch of one and done players. Give them 3 a year.

Ok, I see. That does make sense. I like the idea for basketball. The one and done is a big joke.