Singing "Bad Medicine" at the medical school just seems like a bad idea......Originally posted by mikemarc1:
Bon Jovi also a speaker..that's random.
A true childhood icon! Wish he could've spoken at my engineering graduation..Originally posted by RC1978:
Is the 2015 RU Graduation Speaker. Yes!
HUGE problem in our schools!Originally posted by BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap:
My children (both in primary school) are lucky if they get 2 hours of science education/week.
Really? You HAD to hijack ANOTHER nice thread to express your f-ing political views?Originally posted by BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap:
Unfortunately, science is made out as a villain by religious fundamentalists and the fossil fuel industry.
Originally posted by RUJohnny99:
Really? You HAD to hijack ANOTHER nice thread to express your f-ing political views?Originally posted by BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap:
Unfortunately, science is made out as a villain by religious fundamentalists and the fossil fuel industry.
I think Bill Nye would agree with me 100% Go back to the safe little bubble of the CE board. Or, actually say something of substance to dispute my argument.
He won't......'cause there's no way to dispute your point.Originally posted by BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap:
Originally posted by RUJohnny99:
Really? You HAD to hijack ANOTHER nice thread to express your f-ing political views?Originally posted by BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap:
Unfortunately, science is made out as a villain by religious fundamentalists and the fossil fuel industry.
I think Bill Nye would agree with me 100% Go back to the safe little bubble of the CE board. Or, actually say something of substance to dispute my argument.
It is not a political view, fool. The science overwhelming supports the fact that climate change is REAL and is being exacerbated by human activities. How is that political? Go to science journals, and find out what the research says.Originally posted by RUJohnny99:
Really? You HAD to hijack ANOTHER nice thread to express your f-ing political views?Originally posted by BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap:
Unfortunately, science is made out as a villain by religious fundamentalists and the fossil fuel industry.
LOL. Really they're both so clear headed on Man Made Global Warming.Originally posted by Scarlet16E:
Maybe next year they can get Ed Begley Jr.
I'm embarrassed that you graduated from Rutgers (assuming you did) though I guess it was Cook so not really.Originally posted by ag67:
It is not a political view, fool. The science overwhelming supports the fact that climate change is REAL and is being exacerbated by human activities. How is that political? Go to science journals, and find out what the research says.Originally posted by RUJohnny99:
Really? You HAD to hijack ANOTHER nice thread to express your f-ing political views?Originally posted by BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap:
Unfortunately, science is made out as a villain by religious fundamentalists and the fossil fuel industry.
Classy comeback! Yes I did graduate from RU. I have a graduate degree in Entomology, a science, from RU. I also taught HS for many years, so maybe you can mock that also! I apologize that I will apparently never have the vastly superior intellect that you apparently believe you have.Originally posted by RUScrew85:
I'm embarrassed that you graduated from Rutgers (assuming you did) though I guess it was Cook so not really.Originally posted by ag67:
It is not a political view, fool. The science overwhelming supports the fact that climate change is REAL and is being exacerbated by human activities. How is that political? Go to science journals, and find out what the research says.Originally posted by RUJohnny99:
Really? You HAD to hijack ANOTHER nice thread to express your f-ing political views?Originally posted by BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap:
Unfortunately, science is made out as a villain by religious fundamentalists and the fossil fuel industry.
Has climate change ever occurred absent any contribution from industrialized society?Originally posted by ag67:
Classy comeback! Yes I did graduate from RU. I have a graduate degree in Entomology, a science, from RU. I also taught HS for many years, so maybe you can mock that also! I apologize that I will apparently never have the vastly superior intellect that you apparently believe you have.
I learned long ago that you do not change the long-held views of dedicated conservatives or liberals. Confirmation bias is too strong. So I am just going to state a few facts about science and then move on. You can continue your name-calling, but I will not be here.
The whole idea that global warming is just some concoction of climate scientists to gain funds or attention is absurd.
First, scientific research design requires both a control group and a design that shows the effect of one variable.
Second, statistical analysis of the results requires there to be at least a 95% probability that the results are correct and not due to chance or other variables.
Third, all scientific research is peer-reviewed. That means that other scientists not only look at the research, but they must search for any holes in the research that might show it to be inaccurate. Why? Follow-up research will build on the findings of that research, so they want to their own research to have a solid foundation. This is where they ask the hard questions.
Fourth the research must be duplicated by someone else before it is 100% accepted as fact.
All of this is intended to make sure research is not contaminated by personal bias. I remind you that scientists, like all the rest of us, have different political views. They occupy all parts of the political spectrum. Yet there is virtually unanimous support for the "carbon dioxide cause" hypothesis for climate change among those who actually do the climate research.
This does not mean there is NO possibility that all these scientific results supporting the hypothesis are incorrect. Major scientific beliefs have occasionally been over-turned when an insightful experiment showed that a new hypothesis better explained the scientific results than the time-honored one. The odds here are small however, certainly less than 5%, probably far less. The fact that so many critics are determined to show this hypothesis is inaccurate has in fact lowered the odds the results are wrong - since so many alternate explanations have been put forth already and determined to be wrong.
If you are a skeptic, I would hope you have at least found information supporting both sides of the issue before making your determination - rather than finding a book from an energy company - connected scientist and deciding that is the definitive resource.
IMO the economic consequences of this change in our climate are going to be grim indeed. The current drought situation in California is just a hint of the kinds of changes to our food supplies and life styles our grandchildren will be dealing with. I can only hope that your unsubstantiated beliefs will turn out to be right, in spite of the small statistical probability. For me it is hard to imagine we will be able to adapt effectively.
When was the last Ice age?Originally posted by RU4Real:
Has climate change ever occurred absent any contribution from industrialized society?Originally posted by ag67:
Classy comeback! Yes I did graduate from RU. I have a graduate degree in Entomology, a science, from RU. I also taught HS for many years, so maybe you can mock that also! I apologize that I will apparently never have the vastly superior intellect that you apparently believe you have.
I learned long ago that you do not change the long-held views of dedicated conservatives or liberals. Confirmation bias is too strong. So I am just going to state a few facts about science and then move on. You can continue your name-calling, but I will not be here.
The whole idea that global warming is just some concoction of climate scientists to gain funds or attention is absurd.
First, scientific research design requires both a control group and a design that shows the effect of one variable.
Second, statistical analysis of the results requires there to be at least a 95% probability that the results are correct and not due to chance or other variables.
Third, all scientific research is peer-reviewed. That means that other scientists not only look at the research, but they must search for any holes in the research that might show it to be inaccurate. Why? Follow-up research will build on the findings of that research, so they want to their own research to have a solid foundation. This is where they ask the hard questions.
Fourth the research must be duplicated by someone else before it is 100% accepted as fact.
All of this is intended to make sure research is not contaminated by personal bias. I remind you that scientists, like all the rest of us, have different political views. They occupy all parts of the political spectrum. Yet there is virtually unanimous support for the "carbon dioxide cause" hypothesis for climate change among those who actually do the climate research.
This does not mean there is NO possibility that all these scientific results supporting the hypothesis are incorrect. Major scientific beliefs have occasionally been over-turned when an insightful experiment showed that a new hypothesis better explained the scientific results than the time-honored one. The odds here are small however, certainly less than 5%, probably far less. The fact that so many critics are determined to show this hypothesis is inaccurate has in fact lowered the odds the results are wrong - since so many alternate explanations have been put forth already and determined to be wrong.
If you are a skeptic, I would hope you have at least found information supporting both sides of the issue before making your determination - rather than finding a book from an energy company - connected scientist and deciding that is the definitive resource.
IMO the economic consequences of this change in our climate are going to be grim indeed. The current drought situation in California is just a hint of the kinds of changes to our food supplies and life styles our grandchildren will be dealing with. I can only hope that your unsubstantiated beliefs will turn out to be right, in spite of the small statistical probability. For me it is hard to imagine we will be able to adapt effectively.
Very well said.Originally posted by BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap:
The world needs more celebrity scientists, and less reality TV celebrities. Bill Nye, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss and the late Carl Sagan are a few that come to mind. Unfortunately, science is made out as a villain by religious fundamentalists and the fossil fuel industry. Grade school teachers spend less and less time teaching science due to state testing in language arts and mathematics. My children (both in primary school) are lucky if they get 2 hours of science education/week. Young people need to be inspired to the magic of reality. With science, we vanquish the impossible.
Lawrence Krauss was down here at Otago speaking at the same event as Moms Skillethead and I (we actually followed his presentation). Got to hang out with him some. Really interesting guy and a very good public communicator of complex scientific issues.Originally posted by RU MAN:
Very well said.Originally posted by BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap:
The world needs more celebrity scientists, and less reality TV celebrities. Bill Nye, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss and the late Carl Sagan are a few that come to mind. Unfortunately, science is made out as a villain by religious fundamentalists and the fossil fuel industry. Grade school teachers spend less and less time teaching science due to state testing in language arts and mathematics. My children (both in primary school) are lucky if they get 2 hours of science education/week. Young people need to be inspired to the magic of reality. With science, we vanquish the impossible.
Originally posted by RU1977:
Excellent choice! Maybe next year they can get Neil DeGrasse Tyson!
I wonder what their thoughts on protesting speakers will be then...oh wait no I don'tOriginally posted by RC1978:
People from the CE board please do not hijack this.
Rumors have it that we are shooting for President Obama for next year, 250th anniversary. They started to inquire over a year ago and are really pushing for it.
Originally posted by RU1977:
Excellent choice! Maybe next year they can get Neil DeGrasse Tyson!
Meh. I saw Uncle Joe last year at UDel. Joe's pretty funny. And after the ceremony we hung out and split an 8-ball and a bottle of Cuervo.Originally posted by RC1978:
People from the CE board please do not hijack this.
Rumors have it that we are shooting for President Obama for next year, 250th anniversary. They started to inquire over a year ago and are really pushing for it.
Originally posted by RU1977:
Excellent choice! Maybe next year they can get Neil DeGrasse Tyson!