OT: Crime Dog Makes the HOF

[colbert17]

Finally!!!! In something that I think was long overdue one of the 10,000 committees that can induct players now voted Fred McGriff unanimously into the HOF. 493 HRs, over 1500 RBIs and nearly 2500 hits.
I've always thought he belonged. A guy who came to work every day and was a model of consistency and a model citizen. You need 12 out of the 16 committee members. Mattingly received 6 votes.
Congratulations Crime Dog!!!!!!

McGriff elected unanimously to Hall on Contemporary Era ballot

SAN DIEGO -- “The Crime Dog” finally had his day. In Fred McGriff’s first second chance at the National Baseball Hall of Fame voting process, the Contemporary Baseball Era Players Committee did what the Baseball Writers’ Association of America did not. McGriff was the committee’s lone Hall of...

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[Shelby65]

Do you think there will be less prestige with these ‘contemporary’ or the ‘senior’ entrants ?

Also, why are these second-chance, alternate ballots even a thing ? Isnt BBWAA adequate ?

 

[colbert17]

Do you think there will be less prestige with these ‘contemporary’ or the ‘senior’ entrants ?

Also, why are these second-chance, alternate ballots even a thing ? Isnt BBWAA adequate ?

Agree. Credibility of these committees suffered when they elected Harold Baines.

 

[tom1944]

I always thought both Albert Belle and Don Mattingly were better players that both Baines and McGriff

 

[Shelby65]

Agree. Credibility of these committees suffered when they elected Harold Baines.

C’mon…it’s much more fun when we disagree. Can we agree to never again agree ?

 

[colbert17]

C’mon…it’s much more fun when we disagree. Can we agree to never again agree ?

When you're right you're right.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. :)

 

[T2Kplus20]

Finally!!!! In something that I think was long overdue one of the 10,000 committees that can induct players now voted Fred McGriff unanimously into the HOF. 493 HRs, over 1500 RBIs and nearly 2500 hits.
I've always thought he belonged. A guy who came to work every day and was a model of consistency and a model citizen. You need 12 out of the 16 committee members. Mattingly received 6 votes.
Congratulations Crime Dog!!!!!!

McGriff elected unanimously to Hall on Contemporary Era ballot

SAN DIEGO -- “The Crime Dog” finally had his day. In Fred McGriff’s first second chance at the National Baseball Hall of Fame voting process, the Contemporary Baseball Era Players Committee did what the Baseball Writers’ Association of America did not. McGriff was the committee’s lone Hall of...

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Awful decision. McGriff is textbook for the Hall of the Very Good. Not as bad as Baines, but still pretty bad.

 

[T2Kplus20]

I always thought both Albert Belle and Don Mattingly were better players that both Baines and McGriff

You know why? Because both Belle and Mattingly (when healthy) were MUCH better players than Baines and McGriff. I understand why Mattingly is on the fringe, only 5 elite seasons. However, Belle not being in the HOF is the biggest disgrace. But, but, but.....he was mean to reporters.

LOL!

 

[colbert17]

Awful decision. McGriff is textbook for the Hall of the Very Good. Not as bad as Baines, but still pretty bad.

I disagree. But I have a bias towards McGriff. Was one of my favorite players of that era

 

[yesrutgers01]

McGriff has numbers but to me, he just always passed the eye test as well. Much much better than Blaine’s.
Mattingly, it is a shame, when healthy, one of the best ever both with the bay and glove. But, just not enough. Though, if his body even allowed him just 2-4 more just average years, those magic 5 would have done it for him.
Belle- it is a joke. They just need to change the whole system- media should not be allowed.

 

[T2Kplus20]

Belle- it is a joke. They just need to change the whole system- media should not be allowed.

One of the elite hitters of the 90s (and maybe the best). Every bit as dominant as KG Jr and Frank Thomas.

 

[cicero grimes]

I disagree. But I have a bias towards McGriff. Was one of my favorite players of that era

Congrats on McGriff getting in. Career stats of .280BA 493HR 1550RBI. Compare those to Carlos Delgado .280BA 473HR 1512RBI and Andres Galaraga .288BA 399HR 1425RBI. Do we now put those other two in as well? I still am of the opinion that HOF should only be for the best of the best. I watched all these guys in their prime and while very good players, none in my opinion are HOF worthy.

 

[applesktrack]

I think crime dog gets out over the edge due to the groundbreaking and legendary Tom Emanski baseball commercial that played every 30 minutes on ESPN for the entire 90s.

 

[LotusAggressor]

You know why? Because both Belle and Mattingly (when healthy) were MUCH better players than Baines and McGriff. I understand why Mattingly is on the fringe, only 5 elite seasons. However, Belle not being in the HOF is the biggest disgrace. But, but, but.....he was mean to reporters.

LOL!

So was Ted Williams.

 

[T2Kplus20]

So was Ted Williams.

And he got screwed out of an MVP award or two.

 

[e5fdny]

McGriff has numbers but to me, he just always passed the eye test as well. Much much better than Blaine’s.
Mattingly, it is a shame, when healthy, one of the best ever both with the bay and glove. But, just not enough. Though, if his body even allowed him just 2-4 more just average years, those magic 5 would have done it for him.
Belle- it is a joke. They just need to change the whole system- media should not be allowed.

That’s how I always do it too. Especially when it’s not an easy one because of the lack of overwhelming HoF type stats.

But in this case, not so sure.🤷‍♂️

 

[wicker]

No sign of Paul Konerko. The Hall will be further diluted because players will get in for being close to someone who has made it. If Keith Hernandez gets in Mark Grace should also. Then we get to Mickey Vernon and eventually Wally Joyner

 

[yesrutgers01]

No sign of Paul Konerko. The Hall will be further diluted because players will get in for being close to someone who has made it. If Keith Hernandez gets in Mark Grace should also. Then we get to Mickey Vernon and eventually Wally Joyner

The o LT thing is- while Grace was a good fielder, Keith may have been the best ever. Fits into an Ozzy Smith type of consideration.
I think both fit into the “almost” category though. But with Ozzy being in for his glove, Keith should get the same consideration