Wow, no college in their futures
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ns-liangelo-lamelo-sign-agent-harrison-gaines
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ns-liangelo-lamelo-sign-agent-harrison-gaines
OT: LaMelo and LiAngelo Ball Both Sign with Agent
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His kids are just a means for his fame and security. The most pronounced example of living through his kids I've ever seen. It's obvious he can't come to grips that we was never the player he wanted to be and is trying to make sure his kids are. He talks a good game yet reeks of insecurity. He's a sad person.
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I wish.
I've coached many kids up to HS AAU level with parents who had similar characteristics only at a much, much, lower scale. These parents were usually frustrated former athletes. It seemed the best players actually always had the cool, unassuming parents.
Btw, I coached Kevin Boyle's son for awhile and contrary to what some people might think, he was a very cool parent. Coincidentally, his son was one of the better players also.
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And the Lakers should cut the Ball they have after the asshole father's comments about how he knows how to solve the Laker's problem. But of course, if they did that, it would just be more ammo for Lavar's conspiracy theory. F that whole family.
They drafted him 2nd overall in the draft knowing who was his father, and you think that they should cut him?
Yeesh that's kind of harsh. There's no indication that any of those three kids are bad guys.
Those kids made a really dumb mistake. I'm glad they're not suffering in a foreign prison though.
An unconventional route for sure, but if his kids are good enough to earn a contract overseas and then eventually in the NBA, why waste a year in college? I think the people who dislike LaVar Ball do so because he tends to upset their conventions more so than anything else. Makes no difference to me. Good luck to them.
They aren't cutting him. That's silly talk right now.
But as a Lakers fan and a guy who goes to some games and watches them...he ain't a number 2 pick. Their 2nd round pick is better than him.
Not sure of his youngest, kid seems like a brat, but you can't blame him based on the circus that his father has made.
The other team seem like pretty kids, the theft notwithstanding.
I get a sense that the eldest Ball is very embarrassed by his father.
Lonzo is averaging seven assists per game right? Just under seven rebounds too right?
That's pretty impressive for a guy who could be playing the 9th game of his sophomore season in college.
He's what the Lakers needed a point guard who can pass the [poop] out of the basketball.
Your assertion may be correct, but using Lavar as your example doesnt make any sense. He's crazy but has one son that went #2 in the NBA draft, 1 son that went to UCLA on a basketball scholarship and another son that is a 5 star PG and 17th ranked player in the country. Boyle's son was a good HS player but he's not even in the same discussion as these kids (walk on at FCGU).
Have to agree with you, I would like to see more of these kids taking this route than pretending to be in college. I only wish that football had another avenue so I would not have to listen to anymore discussions that we need to pay the players.
Those are solid numbers, but not as a number 2. His shot is horrific. Lakers fans aren't impressed. He will be a solid player, but history will show him over drafted.
Everyone on the planet knew that Lonzo's shot mechanics were terrible. Good enough for HS, ok for one season at UCLA but definitely needs to be fixed for the NBA. Everyone knew that, it was even discussed on this board leading up to the draft, so that's no surprise. Wait. it might have been the UCF board, I bounce around a lot, could be getting the boards mixed up on that one :smiley:
Anyone who thought he was coming into the NBA and going to light it up this season got bad info. Probably from Lakers fan sites.
What he does best is facilitate for teammates and create scoring opportunities. He'll be fine. Surround him with talent and improve his shot. Kid is a future all-star.
The father knows all about colleges. He attended more schools than Nigel Johnson.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVar_Ball
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVar_Ball
I really don't understand the vitriol directed at Lavar. He's doing what he thinks is best for his kids. People criticized Tiger Woods' dad for the things he said and people criticized Venus and Serena Williams' dad for the things he said. Both of those men were right about their kids. I personally think Lavar is misjudging Gelo's talents but time will bear that out.
Mr. Ball, Mr. Williams and Mr. Woods all share one key trait in common. Methinks some of the vitriol directed at him is driven by that.
If he wants to do what he does for Lamelo, fine. But Liangelo and Lonzo are both adults now. Let them take care of themselves.
I'm not a parent but I don't think you stop being a parent just because your kids are adults. I mean, some people probably do. I just don't understand why people care so much about the guy. He's like that one uncle acting up at the family reunion.
This is a ridiculous comment. People don't like Lavar because he's an a-hole. period. The first father I remember getting this type of negative attention was Todd Marinovich's dad and he doesn't share the trait you hint at, but don't have the balls to say.
Acting up for the attention to be put on himself and not his sons. He is using his son's basketball talent to gain his own fame and money, while also looking like an idiot at the same time. At some point the dude has to grow up and act like a man, not a child.
I don't recall the other 2 parents saying the could beat the equivalent of michael Jordan. For those 2, it was all about their kids.
Lavar and Trump are 2 peas in pod. Both blowhards. It's worked for both of them, but I don't have to like it.
I'd be very surprised if Lonzo becomes an all star. With fan voting, I guess it's possible.
Lavar and Trump are 2 peas in pod. Both blowhards. It's worked for both of them, but I don't have to like it.
I'd be very surprised if Lonzo becomes an all star. With fan voting, I guess it's possible.
Oh I have the "balls" as you put it, to say it. I was just being polite.
IIRC Todd Marinovich's dad got negative attention because his son turned to drugs while he was in college which led to him leaving early and entering the NFL draft. It was pretty clear that his father's methods, while producing a HS star and a pretty good college quarterback, worked for a while but his son rebelled against them and made some destructive live choices.
Other than cheating on his wife in an epic way, that hasn't been the case with Tiger Woods. The Williams sisters are great role models. The Ball kids, based on my limited exposure to all three, seem like pretty well adjusted guys. Although Gelo made a terrible choice in China as we all know.
Do I want to hang out with Lavar? HELL NO. Do I think he has behaved as an a-hole at times? HELL YES. As I said I think that "some of the vitriol," not all but s-o-m-e of it is driven by his race. I think to ignore or deny that is simply dishonest.
I feel you on some of that, personally I think he's a sexist jerk with a lot of madness in his methods, but there are people who see Lavar as a courageous individual who is trying to create a brand. He's trying to build a clothing empire, starting with sneakers and he's going up against giants like Nike, Adidas and Under Armour. There are people who respect what he's trying to do and support him.
I guess he's doing what he's doing, in part, to attract attention to his brand. I wish he would go about it in a different way, but it's not my place to tell him how to run his company...besides he wouldn't listen anyway lol
"Some" is open to a wide number of interpretations. There will always be some in any public discourse, but I don't think that is what is driving negative attention he is receiving. Cherry picking three examples to make the point is what I saw as dishonest.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and get back to basketball. I enjoy your contributions to the board and look forward to reading more.
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Lonzo should be fine. His stats are not terrible, and he seems to have fit in OK on the Lakers. They may be able to fix his shot, but he seems to be a pass first PG who will be able to drive the lane and his length will help him become a good defender who can rebound some. Would guess a lot of the criticism he draws is because of Lavar's sky high predictions, which, if not met, is all the fault of the coaching staff. Doubtful it will happen for Lavar, but Earl Woods and Richard Williams went pretty much silent when their kids reached adulthood. Lavar will stop when people just stop listening to him. Since he now gets o pick the team his remaining two sons play for, and has moves he wants to make for them, it is going to be a while. He is more of a jerk than Earl Woods or Richard Williams ever dreamed of being.
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Exactly. The warning sirens went off when they played Kentucky and Fox kicked Lonzo's ass. If the Lakers couldn't look past that they deserve what they get.
If everyone knew that, I don't understand why they're underwhelmed. Actually, as a long time Celtics fan I'm just going to enjoy the Lakers mediocrity for however long it lasts :smiley:
De'Aaron Fox was terrific that game. I loved how he got to the FT line. I think he shot all but two of UK's free throws that game. Fox is great at scoring at the basket, in the lane and pretty good in mid-range.
I still think Ball will be fine. Improve his shot, and his shot selection though.
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