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OT: Looking Glass’ Brandy turns 50

I remember them playing at the Ledge.
Rutgers 30-17 defeat at Army on November 6, 1971 dropped the team to a season low 1-7 record. It might have been a good time to go forget about things and visit the Rutgers commuters’ lounge known as The Ledge (today’s Rutgers College Student Activities Center) that night. Three 1970 Rutgers graduates, Elliot Lurie, Lawrence Gonsky and Pieter Sweval, in addition to Jeff Grob gave a free concert as The Looking Glass. Grob attended Rider College and Rutgers later on. Ten months later they hit the Billboard #1 spot with “Brandy (You’re A Fine Girl).” They charted two other minor hits but soon broke apart. Ironically, The Looking Glass was a hard rock band whose image fell victim to its big “soft rock” hit. Lead singer Elliot Lurie later became a soundtrack producer and music supervisor in movies that include “Perfect,” “Alien 3,” “A Night at the Roxbury,” “I Spy,” and “Spanglish.” The Looking Glass became active again beginning in 2003.

 
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Rutgers 30-17 defeat at Army on November 6, 1971 dropped the team to a season low 1-7 record. It might have been a good time to go forget about things and visit the Rutgers commuters’ lounge known as The Ledge (today’s Rutgers College Student Activities Center) that night. Three 1970 Rutgers graduates, Elliot Lurie, Lawrence Gonsky and Pieter Sweval, in addition to Jeff Grob gave a free concert as The Looking Glass. Grob attended Rider College and Rutgers later on. Ten months later they hit the Billboard #1 spot with “Brandy (You’re A Fine Girl).” They charted two other minor hits but soon broke apart. Ironically, The Looking Glass was a hard rock band whose image fell victim to its big “soft rock” hit. Lead singer Elliot Lurie later became a soundtrack producer and music supervisor in movies that include “Perfect,” “Alien 3,” “A Night at the Roxbury,” “I Spy,” and “Spanglish.” The Looking Glass became active again beginning in 2003.


I did not know they were Rutgers Men. Cool.
 
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Whoa 50 years.
That's like when I was in HS and the old ladies would talk about Valentino lol.
Good song though
 
Whoa 50 years.
That's like when I was in HS and the old ladies would talk about Valentino lol.
Good song though
It has occurred to me that music I grew up with in high school and at Rutgers in the 1970s is still "known" played and loved/hated by generations who weren't even born when the songs came out.

When you think about the amount of time involved, my generation was worlds away from an equal jump back in time to Tommy Dorsey, or Rudolph Valentino, etc. I would even say that the rock of the 1950s and Elvis Presley had run its course by the time Boston, Aerosmith, Styx, Springsteen, Van Halen, Cars, Police, etc. came to fame. The passing along of this music in the present and its longevity is something definitely new from previous generations prior to the 1970s.
 
It has occurred to me that music I grew up with in high school and at Rutgers in the 1970s is still "known" played and loved/hated by generations who weren't even born when the songs came out.

When you think about the amount of time involved, my generation was worlds away from an equal jump back in time to Tommy Dorsey, or Rudolph Valentino, etc. I would even say that the rock of the 1950s and Elvis Presley had run its course by the time Boston, Aerosmith, Styx, Springsteen, Van Halen, Cars, Police, etc. came to fame. The passing along of this music in the present and its longevity is something definitely new from previous generations prior to the 1970s.


That's true to a degree
The other day I was watching a clip of the 70s Dolphins and I thought that the early 70s pads and uniforms have more in common with the uniforms of today than 70s uniforms had with the leather helmets and pads eras.

Likewise I think electrified music was turning point the way plastics were in football.
Electrified music (creating, recording and manufacturing) changed the landscape in the 60s
Hendrix didn't have a pedal until 1967
8-tracks came out in mid 60s too.
The Beatles' Abbey Road was first recording in stereo and not mono

There are a lot more hits from 50 years ago that people can still listen to without them sounding antique.
But as an aside, hits are hits and a whole lot of music from the 70s is dead and gone the way a lot of old movies are gone.
Not many people still listen to "Muskrat Love" hit from Bandy Era.
In fact I never hear Hendrix anywhere which is odd considering he's often cited as best guitarist all-time.
Everybody knows 1946s "Its a Wonderful Life" and can sing "Buffalo Girl."
But the Oscar for 1946 went to "The Best Years of Our Lives" which is dead and gone for most part
 
That's true to a degree
The other day I was watching a clip of the 70s Dolphins and I thought that the early 70s pads and uniforms have more in common with the uniforms of today than 70s uniforms had with the leather helmets and pads eras.

Likewise I think electrified music was turning point the way plastics were in football.
Electrified music (creating, recording and manufacturing) changed the landscape in the 60s
Hendrix didn't have a pedal until 1967
8-tracks came out in mid 60s too.
The Beatles' Abbey Road was first recording in stereo and not mono

There are a lot more hits from 50 years ago that people can still listen to without them sounding antique.
But as an aside, hits are hits and a whole lot of music from the 70s is dead and gone the way a lot of old movies are gone.
Not many people still listen to "Muskrat Love" hit from Bandy Era.
In fact I never hear Hendrix anywhere which is odd considering he's often cited as best guitarist all-time.
Everybody knows 1946s "Its a Wonderful Life" and can sing "Buffalo Girl."
But the Oscar for 1946 went to "The Best Years of Our Lives" which is dead and gone for most part

I believe earlier Beatles albums were available in both mono and stereo. I know my copy of Sgt. Peppers was stereo.

I see the transition going from the Big Band 40's to the "Rock and Rolll" 50's to a transition to "Rock" that began with the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Motown and Beach Boys and then hit the watershed year of 1967. Amazing year for albums. Sgt. Peppers, The Doors, Are You Experienced, Fresh Cream, Surrealistic Pillow and I'm sure I missed a few.

You still hear Hendrix and the others on stations that don't have strict playlists such as WXPK in Westchester.

Fortunately I haven't heard Muskrat Love or Brandy for years.
 


I’m sure some on this board watched them at Rutgers


Thread from June on this:

 
Thread from June on this:

Sorry I didn’t check threads from June in which there were no responses. Not sure why you pointed this out. I assume you want credit for posting it first so Congrats to you.
 
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Here's mine: Brandy is one of the best songs ever written by anyone at anytime.
 
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Here's mine: Brandy is one of the best songs ever written by anyone at anytime.

I am fully aware that mine is the minority opinion. :)

I have been at bars where a band is playing and people to this day go apeshit when they start playing this song.
 
I believe earlier Beatles albums were available in both mono and stereo. I know my copy of Sgt. Peppers was stereo.

I see the transition going from the Big Band 40's to the "Rock and Rolll" 50's to a transition to "Rock" that began with the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Motown and Beach Boys and then hit the watershed year of 1967. Amazing year for albums. Sgt. Peppers, The Doors, Are You Experienced, Fresh Cream, Surrealistic Pillow and I'm sure I missed a few.

You still hear Hendrix and the others on stations that don't have strict playlists such as WXPK in Westchester.

Fortunately I haven't heard Muskrat Love or Brandy for years.

Hendrix was a master at opening songs
After that I always found him a bit too "fringe" in regard to the psychedelia
I def have to be in a mood for Hendrix

The Beatles stereo thing sounds complicated in that it wasn't just about stereo but about the number of "tracks." Some use tracks to distinguish between stereo and "true stereo"
The Beatles were also in charge of their Abbey recording and were specific about things

"The first Beatles album with a true stereo mix,( apart from the twin-track instruments in the left, vocals in the right, which is true stereo, but incomplete mixes. George Martin and the Beatles did not want them released that way) was A Hard Day’s Night. It was recorded on 4 track, and George Martin and crew was able to make decent true stereo mixes.

The bulk of the Beatles recorded output was done on 4 track. The way they got around the limitations of only having 4 tracks was to “bounce” down, or mix down the 4 tracks into one, opening up three additional tracks for more instrumentation. That’s how they did Sgt. Pepper, and that is what makes it the incredible sonic masterpiece it is for its time. It was painstaking work. But even before Pepper, they were able to get good stereo mixes on their records. Revolver, to me, is every bit a great sounding stereo recording as Pepper.

Their final three albums, the White Album, Abbey Road and Let It Be were recorded on 8 track, and were even better stereo recordings. Also, Abbey Road was mixed on a solid state mixer instead of tube, which also gives it the different sound from the others. I believe that is why many people mistakenly think it is their first true stereo album.

As Michael Lisko and Kevin Richards correctly point out in their answers, Abbey Road WAS the first and only true stereo album, because it was the first time the Beatles themselves were involved with the stereo mix. See their answers for further details."

 
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Saw him live at MSG late May 1969.

Was he good?

I sometimes get impression he was "streaky" (from reading comments from people who saw him).
He's famous for Woodstock and anthem but writers who were there didn't consider Woodstock his the best version of himself (people usually praise Sly Stone, Santana, Havens and Canned Heat the most)
 
Saw him live at MSG late May 1969.
Awhile back I read these liner notes attached to a re-release of Hendrix music on CD with an interesting story. Inventor and R&R HOF guitarist Les Paul and his son left their home in Mahwah, NJ to meet up with CBS music execs in New York in 1964.

They stopped off at a bar in Lodi, NJ (bar not identified). At the bar there was a person trying out that afternoon for a gig. Paul was enthralled with him but they both had to leave for the meeting and agreed they'd come back to this bar on the way home.

By the time they returned, the entertainer had left. Paul asked the bar tender who the man was. The bartender tells him he didn't know and that the bar really didn't hire people that played his style of music. Les Paul desperately tried to call agents, industry people, everyone, but never got the name of the man that day.

Years later he goes into CBS Records and meets with an exec who has all these 45s and album covers spread over his desk. He looks down and then shouts out he recognizes the man from 1964 and asks his name.

Yup. The guy trying out (and not being hired!) in the Lodi bar in 1964 was Jimi Hendrix.

Jimi Hendrix North Jersey Days
 
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Was he good?

I sometimes get impression he was "streaky" (from reading comments from people who saw him).
He's famous for Woodstock and anthem but writers who were there didn't consider Woodstock his the best version of himself (people usually praise Sly Stone, Santana, Havens and Canned Heat the most)

"Voodoo Child - A slight repeat"was basically the album, but impressive a hell live. Not much improv.
 
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I still can't get over the fact that Hendrix once opened for the Monkeys.
BTW, this thread like so many others here is further proof that a lot of Rutgers football fans like crappy music.
 
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