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Hahaha spoken like a true member of the Tin Foil Hat Society.
oh really...
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Why are you guys so afraid to list your "sources" of information? Why is it so tough to list for us "credible" sources of news? I am generally curious.

For full transparency, I get the Philly Inquirer as it's the major local paper for me. I also will read most of the mainstream websites - Fox, CNN, NY Times, Wash Post. I don't have much a need to read MSNBC but I have actually read Breitbart from time to time. I'll consume AP and Reuters stuff as well. But I will also read stories that generally interest me regardless of the bias of the outlet - I'll read stuff from The Atlantic, Washington Times, etc. I'll read WSJ (have paid for their online site for years), CNBC and Fox Business and other financial sites as well for financial stuff. I have a subscription to The Economist through my company as well as the local Philadelphia Business Journal. I am not a podcast guy so I don't consume the likes of Rogan and other popular news fringe personalities. I also largely stay away from all the major talking head shows - so I don't watch the gaggle of Fox & Friends type shows Fox spits out and whatever shows the talking heads at CNN have. Oh and I will read The Hill from time to time because it is a decent aggregator of news stories from all over.

If you have a little bit of common sense, accept the reality that all sources of news have an inherent bias, and try to consume sources from both sides, you can start to piece together what the real story is. If you want to turn to the likes of talking heads like Maddow or Carlson or Glenn Beck, well then, you are likely going to be an ignoramus trapped in an echo chamber.
 
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Why are you guys so afraid to list your "sources" of information? Why is it so tough to list for us "credible" sources of news? I am generally curious.
Depends on the subject for me. How about you? Start with your trusted sources on politics.
 
Why are you guys so afraid to list your "sources" of information? Why is it so tough to list for us "credible" sources of news? I am generally curious.

For full transparency, I get the Philly Inquirer as it's the major local paper for me. I also will read most of the mainstream websites - Fox, CNN, NY Times, Wash Post. I don't have much a need to read MSNBC but I have actually read Breitbart from time to time. I'll consume AP and Reuters stuff as well. But I will also read stories that generally interest me regardless of the bias of the outlet - I'll read stuff from The Atlantic, Washington Times, etc. I'll read WSJ (have paid for their online site for years), CNBC and Fox Business and other financial sites as well for financial stuff. I have a subscription to The Economist through my company as well as the local Philadelphia Business Journal. I am not a podcast guy so I don't consume the likes of Rogan and other popular news fringe personalities. I also largely stay away from all the major talking head shows - so I don't watch the gaggle of Fox & Friends type shows Fox spits out and whatever shows the talking heads at CNN have. Oh and I will read The Hill from time to time because it is a decent aggregator of news stories from all over.

If you have a little bit of common sense, accept the reality that all sources of news have an inherent bias, and try to consume sources from both sides, you can start to piece together what the real story is. If you want to turn to the likes of talking heads like Maddow or Carlson or Glenn Beck, well then, you are likely going to be an ignoramus trapped in an echo chamber.
Well wherever you and your buddy get your polling intelligence from is not credible
 

These are people who believed disbarred attorneys about who won an election and now cited a poll from Rasmussen (LOL) when even their 787M defamation network says their god is deeply underwater, particularly on the economy.

And we saw what happened WI and elsewhere. Same thing as last time. They couldn't even hold a senate seat in AL and that wasn't during a recession with soaring prices and a contracting economy. Sad.
 
RCP Average5/1 - 5/2747.849.7Spread-1.9
Economist/YouGov5/23 - 5/261486 RV4652Spread-6
Rasmussen Reports5/21 - 5/271500 LV5346Spread+7
Morning Consult5/23 - 5/252200 RV4850Spread-2
Quantus Insights5/18 - 5/201000 RV4848Tie
Daily Kos/Civiqs5/17 - 5/201018 RV4752Spread-5
InsiderAdvantage5/17 - 5/191000 LV5544Spread+11
Reuters/Ipsos5/16 - 5/181024 A4252Spread-10
RMG Research*5/14 - 5/213000 RV4850Spread-2
Harvard-Harris5/14 - 5/151903 RV4748Spread-1
Marquette5/5 - 5/151004 A4654Spread-8
Daily Mail5/13 - 5/141003 RV5050Tie
Big Data Poll5/3 - 5/53128 RV4847Spread+1
Gallup5/1 - 5/181003 A4353Spread-10
RealClearPolitics Poll Average
47.8Approve49.7Disapprove-1.9
President Trump Job Approval


2024 election most accurate polls

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LMAO of all the polls only 3 are above water.

Maybe ask Gov Lake and Sen Oz about Insider Advantage, or Rasmussen how they did proving the 2020 election was fraudulent

I think Notorious ACB still chuckles about that as she forces gov agencies to be funded and protects innocent refugees!
 
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um thats what this latest discussion was about...some guy with tds posted fake poll numbers in the thread on the previous page

I made no comments about polling data. I simply was curious about what certain people here think are credible news sources.
 
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I made no comments about polling data. I simply was curious about what certain people here think are credible news sources.
the ones who didnt blatant lie about the presidents mental health and capabilities and who was running the show...ya know the one that called us conspiracy theorists and deep fakes, the ones who didnt do their job while propping up a dunce female as the greatest thing ever..the ones that breathlessly covered stupid legal cases, the ones who fed you and your ilk fake polling data.you can do the work on that one, eliminates alot of them...and oh the Atlantic is a laughable outlet
 
I'd like to know what and who you meant with regards to both.

I couldn't follow.
To the tool who believes Schumer’s political misdirection is the same as POTUS’s mind blowing ignorance about eating pets and COVID protections, cures and other imbecilic horseshit.

For the record, Schumer didn’t blame on federal cuts. He said ‘let’s take a look”. He surely did not believe cause and effect. He was spinning to change the narrative for political gain. Everyday politics.

The other guy disgraces the educational system every time he opens his mouth, believing the most preposterous things as an only an absolute uneducated idiot would.

He’s popular with society’s rejects because they see so much of themselves in him.
 
To the tool who believes Schumer’s political misdirection is the same as POTUS’s mind blowing ignorance about eating pets and COVID protections, cures and other imbecilic horseshit.

For the record, Schumer didn’t blame on federal cuts. He said ‘let’s take a look”. He surely did not believe cause and effect. He was spinning to change the narrative for political gain. Everyday politics.

The other guy disgraces the educational system every time he opens his mouth, believing the most preposterous things as an only an absolute uneducated idiot would.

He’s popular with society’s rejects because they see so much of themselves in him.
Now we know.

Thank you.
 
Since this thread is well off the rails, I’ll play along. Let’s be honest: If MAGA didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have any standards at all.

This is the same crowd that erupted in faux outrage when President Obama wore a tan suit in August 2014 - an utterly benign moment treated like a scandal. Fast forward and they’re perfectly fine with a President who is dangerously compromised, both ethically and cognitively, spews a firehose of lies daily, openly undermines institutions, ignores the rule of law, and behaves in ways that would spark a total meltdown if a Democrat had done even a fraction of the same.

We’re talking about the same voters - only 29% of the electorate btw - who mistake bravado for bravery, conspiracy theories for insight, and performative patriotism for actual civic engagement. They don’t want facts, they want confirmation. They don’t value integrity, they crave spectacle. And worst of all, they’ve traded critical thinking for cultish loyalty, all while claiming the mantle of “real Americans.”
 
Since this thread is well off the rails, I’ll play along. Let’s be honest: If MAGA didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have any standards at all.

This is the same crowd that erupted in faux outrage when President Obama wore a tan suit in August 2014 - an utterly benign moment treated like a scandal. Fast forward and they’re perfectly fine with a President who is dangerously compromised, both ethically and cognitively, spews a firehose of lies daily, openly undermines institutions, ignores the rule of law, and behaves in ways that would spark a total meltdown if a Democrat had done even a fraction of the same.

We’re talking about the same voters - only 29% of the electorate btw - who mistake bravado for bravery, conspiracy theories for insight, and performative patriotism for actual civic engagement. They don’t want facts, they want confirmation. They don’t value integrity, they crave spectacle. And worst of all, they’ve traded critical thinking for cultish loyalty, all while claiming the mantle of “real Americans

Well, damn ...that really sums it up!
 
Since this thread is well off the rails, I’ll play along. Let’s be honest: If MAGA didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have any standards at all.

This is the same crowd that erupted in faux outrage when President Obama wore a tan suit in August 2014 - an utterly benign moment treated like a scandal. Fast forward and they’re perfectly fine with a President who is dangerously compromised, both ethically and cognitively, spews a firehose of lies daily, openly undermines institutions, ignores the rule of law, and behaves in ways that would spark a total meltdown if a Democrat had done even a fraction of the same.

We’re talking about the same voters - only 29% of the electorate btw - who mistake bravado for bravery, conspiracy theories for insight, and performative patriotism for actual civic engagement. They don’t want facts, they want confirmation. They don’t value integrity, they crave spectacle. And worst of all, they’ve traded critical thinking for cultish loyalty, all while claiming the mantle of “real Americans.”
So true.
 
Since this thread is well off the rails, I’ll play along. Let’s be honest: If MAGA didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have any standards at all.

This is the same crowd that erupted in faux outrage when President Obama wore a tan suit in August 2014 - an utterly benign moment treated like a scandal. Fast forward and they’re perfectly fine with a President who is dangerously compromised, both ethically and cognitively, spews a firehose of lies daily, openly undermines institutions, ignores the rule of law, and behaves in ways that would spark a total meltdown if a Democrat had done even a fraction of the same.

We’re talking about the same voters - only 29% of the electorate btw - who mistake bravado for bravery, conspiracy theories for insight, and performative patriotism for actual civic engagement. They don’t want facts, they want confirmation. They don’t value integrity, they crave spectacle. And worst of all, they’ve traded critical thinking for cultish loyalty, all while claiming the mantle of “real Americans.”
 
Since this thread is well off the rails, I’ll play along. Let’s be honest: If MAGA didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have any standards at all.

This is the same crowd that erupted in faux outrage when President Obama wore a tan suit in August 2014 - an utterly benign moment treated like a scandal. Fast forward and they’re perfectly fine with a President who is dangerously compromised, both ethically and cognitively, spews a firehose of lies daily, openly undermines institutions, ignores the rule of law, and behaves in ways that would spark a total meltdown if a Democrat had done even a fraction of the same.

We’re talking about the same voters - only 29% of the electorate btw - who mistake bravado for bravery, conspiracy theories for insight, and performative patriotism for actual civic engagement. They don’t want facts, they want confirmation. They don’t value integrity, they crave spectacle. And worst of all, they’ve traded critical thinking for cultish loyalty, all while claiming the mantle of “real Americans.”
According to a card-carrying member of the same crowd that still believes rusher collusion, the pea tape, chicomvirus came from pangolins, the border was secure under border czar Veep Kammie, and Bidunce was sharp as a tack--the best Biden ever damn it! Do you know what a woman is? Keep 'em coming funny man!
 
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I think putting faith in any polling at this point is pure folly. There is obviously a confidence in GOP/MAGA world that the electorate has shifted in their favor and that it seems unlikely that they could face trouble in 2026 but some recent races that threw up some warning signs. Two races in Florida, the GOP won but severely underperformed relative to historical results. The GOP candidate for the Wisconsin SC got trounced despite Trump winning the state the year before. Dems have overperformed in a slew of special elections for state legislatures. I think the GOP saw the warning signs which is why they pulled back Stefanik as the nominee for ambassador knowing if she vacated, that house seat could be up for grabs.

I think there is an odd dynamic working where the fringes of both sides are becoming more and more entrenched but that soft middle is willing to throw their vote any direction regardless of their leanings. I liken it to the NJ gubernatorial races where despite being a blue state, we have boomeranged back and forth between GOP and Dem governors. I wonder if that's going to bleed into national politics.

Mid-terms will be interesting for sure. You'd have to give the nod to the GOP right now but they are walking a very fine line here and you could easily find the House swing back (Regardless of what direction the country is going, I think the math is tough in the Senate for Democrats).
 
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