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PITINO KNEW ABOUT LOUISVILLE BROTHEL

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Well, the s**t hits the fan. 5 former players and recruits admit to parties with strippers, sex (not college girls), etc.

I guess details will be forthcoming. My question is: How long before Julie is implicated and who will do it first, Duggan or Politi?
 
Well, the s**t hits the fan. 5 former players and recruits admit to parties with strippers, sex (not college girls), etc.

I guess details will be forthcoming. My question is: How long before Julie is implicated and who will do it first, Duggan or Politi?

nothing in the ESPN report on OTL says anything about RP knowing except the woman who broke the story and that was more of her opinion that he is the coach. He knows everything. . it is still being denied. He surely would have built a fire wall.

Do I think he knew..of course. First the affair (his business). Now this. Will be interesting to see how much/little coverage this really gets. College recruiting is so sleazy.
 
Pitino will claim he didn't know which he'll get away with.....because ESPN will not push the envelope and tear down one of their own money makers of the CBB scene...ACC is a lot more valuable to the ESPN brand

Pernetti claimed he didn't know about Rice, which ESPN didn't allow him to get away with.....because Pernetti snubbed his nose at ESPN's subpar offer of a contract....

Neither is a good subject to gloss offer, but one should land Louisville on probation for at least 4 to 5 years, will be a minor blip on the radar.
 
Doesn't matter if Julie was anywhere near it. She was at Louisville, and more importantly she's at Rutgers. Our "friends" at nj.com and the SL will be all over it. Watch.
 
"Winning is everything,I am sure this will be swept under the rug."

People in Kentucky will forgive just about anything where UK basketball is concerned. Pitino would have to murder one of the UK star players before people would start to get angry. We've talked at length here about the TTFP cult. Well, there is also a cult surrounding UK bball.
 
What an embarrassment to the ACC! Revoke their membership! No media calls for that? Why?
Swofford can't say anything since his alma mater had fake classes.
 
Ecojew,

Guess you forgot that Pitino is at Louisville, not Kentucky anymore.

Just busting on you. But then again, with Calipari getting the best players year in and year out, you have to start to wonder if the girls that worked at Louisville might have done double duty.

They wouldn't have even have to leave the state............

Best of Luck,
Groz
 
Well, they say the memory is the first thing to go! Thanks for the correction. I always did get those two mixed up (Calipari and Pitino, not UK and UL). But I think the ethics are the same in both cases.
 
At this point in time, I don't think Rick Pitino knew.

I think that one of the issues media people are overlooking is that someone contacted Andre McGee AFTER he had taken a job at UKMC to get him to arrange another session with the girls.

McGee took the UKMC job in April 2014, Antonio Blakeney didn't visit U of L until September 2014.

This means that someone else, possibly on the staff, knew about this & facilitated it. In the book, the accuser said a different man paid her in the hotel parking lot when they went to party with Blakeney and his "uncle".
 
Of course he knew. And of course he will deny it until the day he dies.
Just like Paterno.
But he is Made in Kentucky.
It really is as simple as that.

But, I think what he knows or does not know makes no diffrence in this situation.
It went on during his watch. He is 100% responsible.
 
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How about the part of the story where the woman says she called the NCAA to report it and they just hung up on her...
 
With the shape of the NCAA these days, it IS semi-plausible. If it was ESPN she called, definitely believable.
 
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I think the woman is a lot more credible than Petino in this case. Her story is already verified. Petino is hoping the fact that he was never in the room covers his ass.
Meanwhile the faithful here are calling for Flood`s head for attempting to have a paper resubmitted. Something that is done in every college every semester.
 
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This is Scandal 3 at Louisville----the well documented tryst between Pitino and the waitress , the hiring of a HFC who lost his job because of a motorcycle accident with his 25 yr old girlfriend and now this.

I wouldn't look for much to happen here because you have an Administration that's committed to winning no matter who's at the helm.

That's their right but IMO it's an ugly look for the University.
 
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I think the woman is a lot more credible than Petino in this case. Her story is already verified. Petino is hoping the fact that he was never in the room covers his ass.
Meanwhile the faithful here are calling for Flood`s head for attempting to have a paper resubmitted. Something that is done in every college every semester.

don't compare the 2...both are wrong. Pitino may have indirectly been involved. We know Flood directly was.
 
Can anyone think for a moment that a graduate assistant would do this without Pitino's approval and arm's length deniability?
 
One is misusing woman, the other is trying to see where a player is at academically. Patinos is much worse.

see where a player is at academically?

"Misusing a woman" vs. "trying to help Barnwell get a better grade" is a no brainer until you think about what college sports is supposed to be about. Both are disturbing, but what Flood did, to me, violates more what college sports is about.

Using sex to influence a player to come to school may not be as bad as going to great lengths to a get a kid who fails a passing grade.

No one knows how to spell Pitino
 
see where a player is at academically?

"Misusing a woman" vs. "trying to help Barnwell get a better grade" is a no brainer until you think about what college sports is supposed to be about. Both are disturbing, but what Flood did, to me, violates more what college sports is about.

Using sex to influence a player to come to school may not be as bad as going to great lengths to a get a kid who fails a passing grade.

No one knows how to spell Pitino

You gotta be kidding. Right????
 
Maybe i don't have all the facts.....

Our head coach went in disguise to meet a professor off campus to see if a grade can be changed.

...and what exactly did he do with the paper.
 
How is the thread title in all caps justified?? I though there was new information. There is nothing that indicates Pitino knew.
 
On the way home from work I was listening to the college sports station on satellite radio and a former college coach called in and said coaches know everything going on with the program. He mentioned Bob Knight knew when a gas station gave free gas to a player etc. This former coach said it's very hard for a coach not to know about something like this.

I saw this thread and started to read through it and it's pretty remarkable. Some posters are quick to give a pass to RP and minimize the issues however nail KF to the coffin. And then compare both and suggest taking players with some underage where I'm sure alcohol and drugs are part of the equation with prostitutes is somehow on par or not as bad as checking on academics. I really don't get it.
 
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Are you off your rocker GreenRiceFig? Pitino bones a lady whose not his wife inside a public restuarant. Then has his asst coach marry her and he pays for the woman to have an abortion. Flood meets professor at a public library to see about how his player can do extra credit assignment to pass a class.

Yeah. This is apples to apples. Smh.

Pitino knew and funded the use of hookers to bone recruits at a dorm building he pushed to have named after a family member. That dude would have been gone from most institutions after the boning and impregnating non wife in restaurant while pushing asst coach to marry and paying for abortion thing if not for the tons of money and attention his basketball program has brought to the U. Of Louisville. Jurich would be thrown out too.

GO RU
 
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see where a player is at academically?

"Misusing a woman" vs. "trying to help Barnwell get a better grade" is a no brainer until you think about what college sports is supposed to be about. Both are disturbing, but what Flood did, to me, violates more what college sports is about.

Using sex to influence a player to come to school may not be as bad as going to great lengths to a get a kid who fails a passing grade.

No one knows how to spell Pitino
No way
 
see where a player is at academically?

"Misusing a woman" vs. "trying to help Barnwell get a better grade" is a no brainer until you think about what college sports is supposed to be about. Both are disturbing, but what Flood did, to me, violates more what college sports is about.

Using sex to influence a player to come to school may not be as bad as going to great lengths to a get a kid who fails a passing grade.

No one knows how to spell Pitino

Can't disagree more. If you have children, especially daughters, you must see that what Pitino and his crew did was much more damaging to the students involved than anything Flood has done. Using young women's bodies as marketing tools for your basketball program and presenting to the recruits that women are objects. That's not worse than asking a professor to let a kid redo an assignment? Not even close in my book.
 
On the way home from work I was listening to the college sports station on satellite radio and a former college coach called in and said coaches know everything going on with the program. He mentioned Bob Knight knew when a gas station gave free gas to a player etc. This former coach said it's very hard for a coach not to know about something like this.

I saw this thread and started to read through it and it's pretty remarkable. Some posters are quick to give a pass to RP and minimize the issues however nail KF to the coffin. And then compare both and suggest taking players with some underage where I'm sure alcohol and drugs are part of the equation with prostitutes is somehow on par or not as bad as checking on academics. I really don't get it.

If coaches know everything that goes on with the program, as you claim, even to the point of knowing when a gas station gave free gas player, then Flood had to know about Barnwell's legal transgressions. So, being that Flood knew, why would he risk his career and violate the instructions from the academic advisors to get a grade change for a player who was going to end up getting kicked off the team (and potentially go to jail). Is Flood a complete moron, or are you wrong about coaches knowing everything?
 
If coaches know everything that goes on with the program, as you claim, even to the point of knowing when a gas station gave free gas player, then Flood had to know about Barnwell's legal transgressions. So, being that Flood knew, why would he risk his career and violate the instructions from the academic advisors to get a grade change for a player who was going to end up getting kicked off the team (and potentially go to jail). Is Flood a complete moron, or are you wrong about coaches knowing everything?

I would think it would be a whole lot easier to be aware of what 13 players and 4 or 5 assistant coaches are doing than it is with 85+ players and however many assistant coaches are doing 24/7. Obviously the gas station thing is an exaggeration, but do you think a coach doesn't know everything that is going on when recruits are on campus? His livelihood depends on those recruits, so he'd better know. Which is worse, knowing and ignoring, or not knowing what was going on?
 
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I would think it would be a whole lot easier to be aware of what 13 players and 4 or 5 assistant coaches are doing than it is with 85+ players and however many assistant coaches are doing 24/7. Obviously the gas station thing is an exaggeration, but do you think a coach doesn't know everything that is going on when recruits are on campus? His livelihood depends on those recruits, so he'd better know. Which is worse, knowing and ignoring, or not knowing what was going on?

I have no idea to what extent a HC keeps tabs on what 13 or 85 players plus coaches and recruits are doing, or how much they don't. I assume some coaches are more of micromanagers than others. You can certainly delve into the specifics of each situation, and the characteristics of individual coaches, to figure out what they likely knew or didn't know. But DaveSNJ isn't getting into specifics. He is saying Pitino knew, because all coaches know everything.

If you are going to use the broad net that coaches know every detail, as DaveSNJ claimed, to catch Pitino, then the same net catches Flood.
 
Follow the money. The funds to use a sex operation to lure top recruits has a source and the head of the U. Of L basketball program knows that source.

GO RU
 
I have no idea to what extent a HC keeps tabs on what 13 or 85 players plus coaches and recruits are doing, or how much they don't. I assume some coaches are more of micromanagers than others. You can certainly delve into the specifics of each situation, and the characteristics of individual coaches, to figure out what they likely knew or didn't know. But DaveSNJ isn't getting into specifics. He is saying Pitino knew, because all coaches know everything.

If you are going to use the broad net that coaches know every detail, as DaveSNJ claimed, to catch Pitino, then the same net catches Flood.
I'm not going to go as far as that, but I find it hard to believe Pitino doesn't know the itinerary for recruiting visits. And I mean the entire itinerary.
 
Follow the money. The funds to use a sex operation to lure top recruits has a source and the head of the U. Of L basketball program knows that source.

GO RU

This. The fact that a grad assistant had access to $10,000 or more to throw around for hookers may the most serious thing to come out of this,

Where did the money come from?
Who knew about it?
What was the process for getting the cash into the grad assistant's hand?
If $10,000 was available to a grad assistant for this, what other violations were funded by having access to cash?

The fact that there were parties involving hookers in the basketball dorm is an embarrassment to the school but not necessarily a condemning act by the Athletic Department. The fact that these parties were funded by a member of the basketball staff is a huge violation of NCAA rules.

Hopefully the NCAA sees it this way & deals with this mess properly
 
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