Well, the s**t hits the fan. 5 former players and recruits admit to parties with strippers, sex (not college girls), etc.
I guess details will be forthcoming. My question is: How long before Julie is implicated and who will do it first, Duggan or Politi?
Meanwhile the faithful here are calling for Flood`s head for attempting to have a paper resubmitted. Something that is done in every college every semester.
If Flood wins a national championship here the hookers are on me.
I think the woman is a lot more credible than Petino in this case. Her story is already verified. Petino is hoping the fact that he was never in the room covers his ass.
Meanwhile the faithful here are calling for Flood`s head for attempting to have a paper resubmitted. Something that is done in every college every semester.
One is misusing woman, the other is trying to see where a player is at academically. Patinos is much worse.don't compare the 2...both are wrong. Pitino may have indirectly been involved. We know Flood directly was.
One is misusing woman, the other is trying to see where a player is at academically. Patinos is much worse.
see where a player is at academically?
"Misusing a woman" vs. "trying to help Barnwell get a better grade" is a no brainer until you think about what college sports is supposed to be about. Both are disturbing, but what Flood did, to me, violates more what college sports is about.
Using sex to influence a player to come to school may not be as bad as going to great lengths to a get a kid who fails a passing grade.
No one knows how to spell Pitino
No waysee where a player is at academically?
"Misusing a woman" vs. "trying to help Barnwell get a better grade" is a no brainer until you think about what college sports is supposed to be about. Both are disturbing, but what Flood did, to me, violates more what college sports is about.
Using sex to influence a player to come to school may not be as bad as going to great lengths to a get a kid who fails a passing grade.
No one knows how to spell Pitino
see where a player is at academically?
"Misusing a woman" vs. "trying to help Barnwell get a better grade" is a no brainer until you think about what college sports is supposed to be about. Both are disturbing, but what Flood did, to me, violates more what college sports is about.
Using sex to influence a player to come to school may not be as bad as going to great lengths to a get a kid who fails a passing grade.
No one knows how to spell Pitino
On the way home from work I was listening to the college sports station on satellite radio and a former college coach called in and said coaches know everything going on with the program. He mentioned Bob Knight knew when a gas station gave free gas to a player etc. This former coach said it's very hard for a coach not to know about something like this.
I saw this thread and started to read through it and it's pretty remarkable. Some posters are quick to give a pass to RP and minimize the issues however nail KF to the coffin. And then compare both and suggest taking players with some underage where I'm sure alcohol and drugs are part of the equation with prostitutes is somehow on par or not as bad as checking on academics. I really don't get it.
If coaches know everything that goes on with the program, as you claim, even to the point of knowing when a gas station gave free gas player, then Flood had to know about Barnwell's legal transgressions. So, being that Flood knew, why would he risk his career and violate the instructions from the academic advisors to get a grade change for a player who was going to end up getting kicked off the team (and potentially go to jail). Is Flood a complete moron, or are you wrong about coaches knowing everything?
I would think it would be a whole lot easier to be aware of what 13 players and 4 or 5 assistant coaches are doing than it is with 85+ players and however many assistant coaches are doing 24/7. Obviously the gas station thing is an exaggeration, but do you think a coach doesn't know everything that is going on when recruits are on campus? His livelihood depends on those recruits, so he'd better know. Which is worse, knowing and ignoring, or not knowing what was going on?
I'm not going to go as far as that, but I find it hard to believe Pitino doesn't know the itinerary for recruiting visits. And I mean the entire itinerary.I have no idea to what extent a HC keeps tabs on what 13 or 85 players plus coaches and recruits are doing, or how much they don't. I assume some coaches are more of micromanagers than others. You can certainly delve into the specifics of each situation, and the characteristics of individual coaches, to figure out what they likely knew or didn't know. But DaveSNJ isn't getting into specifics. He is saying Pitino knew, because all coaches know everything.
If you are going to use the broad net that coaches know every detail, as DaveSNJ claimed, to catch Pitino, then the same net catches Flood.
Follow the money. The funds to use a sex operation to lure top recruits has a source and the head of the U. Of L basketball program knows that source.
GO RU