QB Depth Chart for UNM - Allen #2, No Oden
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Hampton is out with the injury suffered vs Washington.
Edit: It was reported Hampton would be out a couple weeks which goes against the depth chart.
Yet he remains a starter on the depth chart. Its not worth the paper its printed on IMO.
Wow, great clickbait title. The QB is Allen OR Resigno, as it has been the last two weeks. And Ash has both said and done Gio would be the first QB off the bench.
Either way, love that Ash sees we aren't getting enough out of the QB position and is clearly looking for solutions.
Regardless of score, I am guessing we see someone other than Laviano.
Regardless of score, I am guessing we see someone other than Laviano.
Well if Ash really is looking for solutions, why didn't he allow Gio or Oden to throw the ball more?
It was a blowout. Throwing on Howard at that point would have been unsportsmanlike. I think Oden can get real time in games going forward because he allows the playbook to be opened up more due to his running ability.
Ok...I'll take your word for it. But Laviano is awkward as hell both in the pocket and running the ball. It allows the defense to tee off on the RB because they don't respect his running
Because he is also a sportsman. We took that teams soul at that point and were up 35 points or so
I don't disagree. I am of the opinion that the issues we face will be the same with any of the QB's on roster, so you may as well go with the guy who is the most experienced passer, and probably least likely to turn the ball over. Gio and/or Odin add a new look, which could be used effectively. But every team we play is going to cheat down low and challenge us to beat them downfield. I don't think any of our QB's will fare well in that situation. So its a lesser of 2 or 3 evils in my mind, and, I suspect, the coaches' minds.
All we can hope is that Gio or Odin shows something in situational use that indicates to the staff that they can be trusted with greater responsibility.
Well there is no proof yet but ball security has yet to be Lavianos strong point, and passing hasn't been either. Oh and he really isn't burning it up running the ball too. Maybe we should play the other guys 1 series a half and see how they do? So far they haven't turned the ball over
Because we were blowing out an FCS school and he didn't want to be a jerk?
CL hasn't shown he can throw the ball or run with it. If Gio or Oden can't throw, at least they can run.
Didn't let them throw mostly because we would have been running up the score against an opponent whose game was over by the end of the third quarter. At the stage Gio went in, Howard was looking like the walking dead. Would have been very unsportsmanlike.
Which also makes the good runs by Gio and Oden somewhat less than ideally representative of how they would fare against a team that wasn't completely exhausted and had competitive talent.
Ash did not play Gio or Oden because he's looking for solutions. They already know what they have w/all the QBs and don't need to "go looking" during games. If they didn't already know that, they would be total crap as coaches.
Based on Ash's comments, the coaching staff played them because they wanted to get them some reps in a game situation. In other words, to get them experience and see where they are at. Because one is one injury away from playing (Gio) and the other (Oden, who fits the offense better than all of them) is someone they really hope to play at some point in the season.
Ash also said, somewhat emphatically, that Oden has a long way to go to be ready with his passing game.
I really, really hope this is just Coach Ash not tipping his hand to New Mexico. Would love if it was nothing but Gio and Oden on Saturday.
They know all they need from green jersey practice sessions? Uh, sure.
Guess Saban, Meyer and others who judge execution "under the lights" should just forget that and judge Gio as an ex-who's never played a snap in a real game-on practice solely. Right? All the data is there and "they already know what they have w/all the qb's". While this should rightly be sarcasm, methinks it wasn't, and well...
Gio and Oden didn't play one minute against quality competition in the Howard game. They came in after Howard had basically given up, and had some good runs. Neither passed the ball.
The coaching staff has seen all our QBs play against a considerably better, considerably more fit, considerably less exhausted defense in practice. So the coaches actually know which QB has the best chance to help the team win on Saturday.
Yet now, based on virtually no evidence whatsoever, some of our fans have arrived at the conclusion that the coaching staff must be wrong to put Laviano in the game as the starting QB?
I guess I can see where we all hope that someone can come in and be this totally great QB who makes things happen and makes up for our terribly poor OL and WR play. But that's wishful thinking. Which is okay and all, but the coaches aren't going to act on wishful thinking.
There's just no logic to thinking, based on what little we fans have actually seen in open practices, scrimmages and games, that anybody can come in and do better than Laviano. At least not yet.
The coaching staff has seen all our QBs play against a considerably better, considerably more fit, considerably less exhausted defense in practice. So the coaches actually know which QB has the best chance to help the team win on Saturday.
Yet now, based on virtually no evidence whatsoever, some of our fans have arrived at the conclusion that the coaching staff must be wrong to put Laviano in the game as the starting QB?
I guess I can see where we all hope that someone can come in and be this totally great QB who makes things happen and makes up for our terribly poor OL and WR play. But that's wishful thinking. Which is okay and all, but the coaches aren't going to act on wishful thinking.
There's just no logic to thinking, based on what little we fans have actually seen in open practices, scrimmages and games, that anybody can come in and do better than Laviano. At least not yet.
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I never said they didn't want to see the guys play in a game. Of course they did, which is partly why they put them in. I'm saying that they didn't learn anything against Howard in the fourth quarter that they didn't already know.
And they for damn sure didn't put them in in the fourth quarter against Howard to "find solutions". That's ridiculous.
Really? What is clear is you and others have an agenda and dislike one QB. Ash and staff are looking to win games. Any good fan will root for the guy on the field. Try it out.
In my opinion, if the staff truly believed Laviano was the guy, they would not have burned Oden's redshirt. That fact is much more telling than the stats Oden and Rescigno put up.
That's my opinion too. That doesn't mean Oden is ready yet. If he is, which is always possible but unlikely, then Ash was basically putting out disinformation to the press after the game. Because Ash himself said Oden "has a long way to go". Ash said that twice to emphasize the point.
I believe Mildone and Old Cabbagehead have it right. They have an experienced QB who they feel is their best option at the moment. Anybody thinking Gio and Oden should start right now have it wrong. You simply don't just thrust a player not ready yet into the crucible of fire and hope that it forges a player.
Rather you bring them along slowly to see what they have and add to that game by game. By the second half of the season, you might just have a viable starting option. I hope to see them get some situation type plays the next few games. Then if they prove capable of that, more playing time and additional packages. Finally you may just see one of them get the start.
Rather you bring them along slowly to see what they have and add to that game by game. By the second half of the season, you might just have a viable starting option. I hope to see them get some situation type plays the next few games. Then if they prove capable of that, more playing time and additional packages. Finally you may just see one of them get the start.
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Actually, I'm rooting for all the QBs. I want them all to improve like crazy in practice (including Laviano). I don't care who plays and I trust the coaching staff to make good decisions.
Based on Mehringer's comments, Gio has improved tremendously since the last scrimmage. Which is probably why he's the de-facto #2 at the moment. So hopefully that pushes Laviano and both Gio and Laviano get better for it.
its about the future..
Oden and Lewis..are the QBs of the future to lead the Rutgers program.
Laviano,Gio,Rettig are not the future..and this is a rebuilding year with a low win total..so Oden and Gio will play.
Oden and Lewis are the future starting QBS as Ash remakes the program,talent wise and Culture wise..
Oden and Lewis..are the QBs of the future to lead the Rutgers program.
Laviano,Gio,Rettig are not the future..and this is a rebuilding year with a low win total..so Oden and Gio will play.
Oden and Lewis are the future starting QBS as Ash remakes the program,talent wise and Culture wise..
It will be interesting to see what the staff does, with respect to the QB position, if and when we find ourselves mathematically out of bowl-game contention.
Huh? I don't dislike anyone. I think some are better options than others. Looks like Ash isn't exactly satisfied with what he is getting out of the position either. Not sure why you would be.
What's your definition of "execute"? We should all be very very concerned if this is true.
Sorry I misread your comments and lumped you in with other posts. My bad.
I just think everyone needs to support the guy on the field. Our base always puts down our starting QB and wants the greener grass. I root for whoever is on the field. As you said in the other thread that goes for every position too. Every job is a battle with Ash and I hope it pays off.
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