Randolph HS - Iowa head coach, Rutgers DC

[Mr_Twister]

Morris County's Randolph HS has never been football-friendly to Rutgers, and it's looks like it could get worse. Ex-Randolph HS/ex-Iowa Tariq Holman is the new head coach at Randolph. Saving grace - his DC is ex-Rutgers DJ Catalano.

http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news...tarig-holman-already-making-mark-at-randolph/

 

[Kbee3]

Morris County's Randolph HS has never been football-friendly to Rutgers, and it's looks like it could get worse. Ex-Randolph HS/ex-Iowa Tariq Holman is the new head coach at Randolph. Saving grace - his DC is ex-Rutgers DJ Catalano.

http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/article/-3857794974581876185/football-former-trenton-head-coach-tarig-holman-already-making-mark-at-randolph/

Randolph ? Really ?
You have to help me here....who were the great recruits from Randolph that we missed out on and how great an impact would they have had on the program ? And please try and keep it to this century.
Randolph ?

 

[newell138]

Randolphs glory days were back in the 90's

 

[Kbee3]

Randolphs glory days were back in the 90's

Yep...remember them well.
But this century all I can recall is that Mahon kid who went to Pedd St. He's O.K. but I don't think he's any better than what we have at guard.

 

[JoeRU0304]

Appreciate the info but would be more concerned if it were 1989.


Joe P.

 

[Mr_Twister]

Randolph ? Really ?
You have to help me here....who were the great recruits from Randolph that we missed out on and how great an impact would they have had on the program ? And please try and keep it to this century.
Randolph ?

Start with the current head coach at Randolph, who went to Iowa. Then wasn't one of last year's starting lineman for TTFP from Randolph - Brendan Mahon, 6'4"/316? Years ago a Penn State backup QB (Nardolillo?) was from Randolph. Randolph QB Drew Willy played at Buffalo, then the NFL & CFL. QB Mike Groh played at UVa.

 

[RU#1fan]

Plenty of other higher profile NJ Coaches who want nothing to do with the RU football program ( see : Olsen at Wayne Hills)

 

[ru66]

there really is an epidemic of "the sky is falling " disease on this board

 

[dollarbill]

Great opportunity for our staff to welcome him to the State of Rutgers. $$$$

 

[Abro1975]

OLSEN retired 2 or 3 years ago, program not nearly the same. Anyway we have Bergen Catholics HC's brother on our staff, how's that working out? I'm not sure.

Plenty of other higher profile NJ Coaches who want nothing to do with the RU football program ( see : Olsen at Wayne Hills)

 

[Mr_Twister]

Yep...remember them well.
But this century all I can recall is that Mahon kid who went to Pedd St. He's O.K. but I don't think he's any better than what we have at guard.

Playing in the Big Ten doesn't count? On top of Mahon, another of the linemen is Magiro from the next town, Roxbury. You can't say that Randolph hasn't produced Div-1 talent. Another QB Rocky Daconti played at Hofstra. DB Bill Armstrong from way back (70's?) was an All-American at Wake Forest. Randolph has a place kicker (Frank Raggo) at Delaware. Lineman Frank Beltre played at Towson 2012 then the NFL (Chargers, Raiders) and CFL (Calvary Stampeders).

 

[knightfan7]

Playing in the Big Ten doesn't count? On top of Mahon, another of the linemen is Magiro from the next town, Roxbury. You can't say that Randolph hasn't produced Div-1 talent. Another QB Rocky Daconti played at Hofstra. DB Bill Armstrong from way back (70's?) was an All-American at Wake Forest. Randolph has a place kicker (Frank Raggo) at Delaware. Lineman Frank Beltre played at Towson 2012 then the NFL (Chargers, Raiders) and CFL (Calvary Stampeders).

Roxbury has put some kids at RU over the years although not lately. The Spitzers and Alan Andrews all played major roles for the Knights. Also, as I remember Randolph and Roxbury are oil and water. A head coach at Randolph isn't going affect Roxbury recruiting and visa versa. What it could do is have the coach alert his alma mater to a good player he sees at a competing school.

 

[Mr_Twister]

Roxbury has put some kids at RU over the years although not lately. The Spitzers and Alan Andrews all played major roles for the Knights. Also, as I remember Randolph and Roxbury are oil and water. A head coach at Randolph isn't going affect Roxbury recruiting and visa versa. What it could do is have the coach alert his alma mater to a good player he sees at a competing school.

+ Yes. And coaches and assistants do play some role in where players and their families lean.

 

[RUfinal4]

while they may not develop a lot of scholarship football talent these coaches are all trusted advisors to the kids when they choose a college. They can be steering good students away from Rutgers to other schools forcing Rutgers to take the kid next in line. If the kid that played football with a 3.75 uses RU as a safety school and goes to Michigan then we may be stuck with a kid who earned a 3.65. This hurts Rutgers overall profile for some of the publications.

 

[knightfan7]

while they may not develop a lot of scholarship football talent these coaches are all trusted advisors to the kids when they choose a college. They can be steering good students away from Rutgers to other schools forcing Rutgers to take the kid next in line. If the kid that played football with a 3.75 uses RU as a safety school and goes to Michigan then we may be stuck with a kid who earned a 3.65. This hurts Rutgers overall profile for some of the publications.

So now Rutgers not only needs to worry about football coaches steering players away but also those who excel at academics?

I'm sorry but this is taking paranoia to a whole new level.

 

[CNJKnight]

I remember a sieve playing OG at PSU this past season that I'm glad he chose not to come here. He only played because, well, there was not one else to play OL on their team. Here's to hoping he keeps Hackenberg on the run all season!!

 

[Kbee3]

Playing in the Big Ten doesn't count? On top of Mahon, another of the linemen is Magiro from the next town, Roxbury. You can't say that Randolph hasn't produced Div-1 talent. Another QB Rocky Daconti played at Hofstra. DB Bill Armstrong from way back (70's?) was an All-American at Wake Forest. Randolph has a place kicker (Frank Raggo) at Delaware. Lineman Frank Beltre played at Towson 2012 then the NFL (Chargers, Raiders) and CFL (Calvary Stampeders).

First of all, I mentioned Mahon as the only one this century that I could think of. He's no better than what we have at guard now. And don't give me "the next town" or cite guys who went to Hofstra, Delaware, or Towson Randolph has produced virtually no prospects that we would have gotten excited about since the last century...at least. So excuse me if I don't get all upset that we may have lost that "pipeline".

 

[Mr_Twister]

First of all, I mentioned Mahon as the only one this century that I could think of. He's no better than what we have at guard now. And don't give me "the next town" or cite guys who went to Hofstra, Delaware, or Towson Randolph has produced virtually no prospects that we would have gotten excited about since the last century...at least. So excuse me if I don't get all upset that we may have lost that "pipeline".

Kbee3 ... Some high school programs go a decade or more without producing Div-1 talent. No one is comparing Penn State players with ours except you. To say that Randolph HS hasn't had good football players through the years is nonsense. And they have players who have made it to the pro ranks recently. BTW, any chance you played at Montclair or Union HS?

http://www.nj.com/hssports/blog/football/index.ssf/2010/12/post_3.html

 

[Kbee3]

Kbee3 ... Some high school programs go a decade or more without producing Div-1 talent. No one is comparing Penn State players with ours except you. To say that Randolph HS hasn't had good football players through the years is nonsense. And they have players who have made it to the pro ranks recently. BTW, any chance you played at Montclair or Union HS?

http://www.nj.com/hssports/blog/football/index.ssf/2010/12/post_3.html

No. And I didn't say they didn't have good players over the years. I said the kid from Pedd St. was the only highly-recruited prospect that I could recall at least as far back as the beginning of this century. The Randolph team that beat Union and Montclair to win that championship back in the day was one of my favorites...and a classic example of how size and talent isn't everything. I can still see that kid kicking that field goal. But that was a long time ago.
And BTW, I'm from South River and we had more future NFL players....stars I think you could call them...on our team my senior year than Randolph has had in its entire history. You may have heard of Drew Pearson and Joe Theismann. There was even a wr on that team that started eventually for Pedd State.... John Skarzinski (sp). I think he caught a td pass in the Cotton Bowl one year for PSU.
So pardon me if I don't get all impressed with one guard at Pedd St. in 15 years.

 

[Abro1975]

Since 2000, the D1 producing Public HSs have been Piscataway, Timber Creek, Elizabeth, Union City, Montclair, Hackensack, Midlletown South, Toms River HSs, Camden, and probably a couple more that consistently have more players for D1 than Randolph . Like other Affluent towns with good public HSs, the athletes now often wind up in Lacrosse, soccer, and some other Olympic sports.

 

[RUtix4me]

First time I have actually done this here but....

OMG this is silly. People will reach for anything....most high school head coaches in NI did not graduate from Rutgers...OP, you did pick a good name for yourself though.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

This is ridiculous. As said above, most coaches went to other schools. In this case, the coach went to another Big Ten school and has a Rutgers guy as his assistant. Could be a lot worse!!

I am a Randolph guy, and know all of these people. Its nothing to worry about. Little known fact - Tarig played CB for Iowa, and picked off Tom Brady 3 times in a single game. Not too many people have done that!

 

[Mr_Twister]

Are posters here suggesting that it wouldn't help to have guys with Rutgers ties as head coaches, or at least on the staff, at local high school teams? Gary Kehler, Dino Mangiero, and Pierce Frauenheim did their best to get players interested in Rutgers. Do you think that guys like Augie Hoffmann and Chet Parlevecchio (when he coached in NJ) do anything but make sure their alma mater get strong consideration when it comes to recruiting?

 

[TdogRU]

Randolph's best sport is ice hockey and there's no close second. Football talent is nothing special in Randolph the last 10 years.

 

[RUtix4me]

Are posters here suggesting that it wouldn't help to have guys with Rutgers ties as head coaches, or at least on the staff, at local high school teams? Gary Kehler, Dino Mangiero, and Pierce Frauenheim did their best to get players interested in Rutgers. Do you think that guys like Augie Hoffmann and Chet Parlevecchio (when he coached in NJ) do anything but make sure their alma mater get strong consideration when it comes to recruiting?

No, posters are simply saying just because this coach went elsewhere doesn't mean RU is automatically screwed, seems pretty simple.

 

[Knight Shift]

I remember a long time ago a substitute teacher named Mr. Pizappi in my high school class asked the class, which was full of football players if anyone was considering going to Iowa. The class burst out with laughter. I would imagine this question would get about the same response in a lot of NJ high schools.

Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State?--Sure.
Wisconsin-OK.
Iowa--??????????

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

Randolph's best sport is ice hockey and there's no close second. Football talent is nothing special in Randolph the last 10 years.

Football isn't what it was, but they still won a state title in 2010. If you measure it by ice hockey, almost every sport at every public school would be a distant second. Randolph won 7 titles in 10 years in a sport that has only one public championship.

 

[RutgersROB]

Are posters here suggesting that it wouldn't help to have guys with Rutgers ties as head coaches, or at least on the staff, at local high school teams? Gary Kehler, Dino Mangiero, and Pierce Frauenheim did their best to get players interested in Rutgers. Do you think that guys like Augie Hoffmann and Chet Parlevecchio (when he coached in NJ) do anything but make sure their alma mater get strong consideration when it comes to recruiting?

Chet Parlavechio is back at Passaic Valley for next 3 seasons...needs to for his pension

 

[BoogieKnight]

We'll I applied for a spot on Randolph's staff as I live in town and looking to teach. If I get job I will do my best to push RU on all the kids like I did to my track athletes this year.

Honestly, kids are gonna go where they want to go. I coached kid this spring who throws shot who is a D1 OL prospect. Coach Camp was in to see him. Honestly he's not strong enough and doesn't have the nasty streak to play at RU despite being 6-5, 290. He's not going to get an RU offer. Delaware was in too and he may have a shot to get an offer from them. Still, I talked RU up to this kid and he talked about how OSU and MSU embarrassed us. Point is I worked with the kid every day for 3 months and I had zero impact on this kids view of Rutgers Football. And trust me I tried.

 

[Knight Shift]

We'll I applied for a spot on Randolph's staff as I live in town and looking to teach. If I get job I will do my best to push RU on all the kids like I did to my track athletes this year.

Honestly, kids are gonna go where they want to go. I coached kid this spring who throws shot who is a D1 OL prospect. Coach Camp was in to see him. Honestly he's not strong enough and doesn't have the nasty streak to play at RU despite being 6-5, 290. He's not going to get an RU offer. Delaware was in too and he may have a shot to get an offer from them. Still, I talked RU up to this kid and he talked about how OSU and MSU embarrassed us. Point is I worked with the kid every day for 3 months and I had zero impact on this kids view of Rutgers Football. And trust me I tried.

Cool story. I know lots of Jersey kids who talk smack about Rutgers. Ironic that a kid who will not get a whiff of an offer from us and may not get one from Delaware will look down his nose at us despite your best efforts.

 

[RU62]

Of course some folks quickly forget that Rutgers does not have an undergraduate major in education and as a result not too many grads get into coaching situations much less into the classroom. Yes there is a master's program but some people don't want to go that route. Years ago one could major in a specific area and also choose to get teacher certification without going the master's route.

It's embarassing to have a state university the size of Rutgers to not have an undergraduate program in education. Rutgers has to be the only major state university in the country like this. As a result many of the teachers in NJ classrooms received their teacher training at schools out of state or at Montclair, College of NJ etc and have no Rutgers loyalty or impact.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

First time I have actually done this here but....

OMG this is silly. People will reach for anything....most high school head coaches in NI did not graduate from Rutgers...OP, you did pick a good name for yourself though.

This is actually one of our historic issues. Most football playing state schools that we would aspire to become have the HS coaching ranks in their state well represented with grads. The thing is.. for over a hundred years Rutgers wasn't even trying to be top football-playing school. And Rutgers doesn't put producing teachers as a main goal. And football-crazy student-athletes who might eventually become HS coaches would not have chosen Rutgers.