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granted im eddie mush but how the hell does Rutgers not cover that?! I mean shit, it wouldnt even shock me if we won
MSU has routinely beaten teams by double digits at home, and their efficiency numbers are actually better with Ward off the court.
That’s an an awful lot of points. I learned long ago to stay away from games that seem too easy but I can’t see us not covering without Ward and with the style we play.
This is one of those spreads where Vegas seems to knows something. I'd stay away.
I think we keep this close... Pike's teams have played MSU tough over the past few years and I don't expect tonight to be any different. I wouldn't be surprised if it's an 8 point game late that ends up being a 10-12 point loss. If RU brings their A game, a win is possible against a shorthanded Sparty.
I’m just enjoying the ride
My basketball instincts tell me that this is gojng to be a two possession game either way....but given how the fate of the basketball gods and the refs have been toward RU, I can’t be surprised at anything anymore ....
My basketball instincts tell me that this is gojng to be a two possession game either way....but given how the fate of the basketball gods and the refs have been toward RU, I can’t be surprised at anything anymore ....
Seems like a lot of points. Last three matchups were 11 points or less, and we are a much different team than a few months ago.
My gut tells me this will be within 10 points with 5 minutes left. A lot will depend on the style of officiating, too. I think a tight whistle will favor us, and a loose whistle will favor them... I have a feeling it will be the latter, unfortunately.
We would have won the first game if it wasn't for Ward absolutely dominating us inside. Only concern is a post emotional loss hangover and the team just doesn't show up. I saw that line and bet myself as well though. We always play MSU tough
With Ward and Langford out, the focus turns to Winston, Goins and Tillman. If we can somehow get Goins/Tillman in foul trouble early on, they'll have to dig deeper on their bench for frontcourt depth and we might be able to exploit them a bit more in the paint. That's why I'm saying a more tightly called game might favor us, whereas a game where a lot of contact is let go would favor them. In the last several games, though, we've seen a generally looser whistle - with a lot of contact, especially by bigs, going uncalled.
Ward and Langford are out but McQuaid was out when we played them in early December so the Spartans have that going for them. I was surprised by the line but then checked Kenpom and they have MSU by 19 so who knows? Like GoFish2 said, Vegas usually has a very good handle on these types of things so I guess a MSU win by 15+ would not be surprising?
True - I don't know if McQuaid for Langford is an even trade for them, and they'll still be down Ward. And no, a 15 point loss would not be surprising - but a close game wouldn't be surprising either, for me. If we were up 15 toward the end, *that* would definitely be surprising.
Line is based on the assumption of equal amounts of money bet on each side. This would attract equal bettors. In pro football news of injuries is received and consumed well nationally so a QB being out would move the line. In NCAA bball news of injuries not common place except to specific fan bases (for the most part- I would imagine Duke the exception).
Bottom line book makers are looking to collect the vig.
Bottom line book makers are looking to collect the vig.
I think RU covers but some items to consider.
A) RU usually plays 5 on 8 at home and on the road.....can anyone with a conscious, actually believe RU is going to get a fair whistle for 40 minutes.
B) There's the item of whether RU will get double teamed if the ball is dumped into the post....and if you don't score and get fouled, can Shaq, Shaq and Myles make FTs....??
C) There's unlikely to be additional points on the offensive glass.
Single digit game all the way because MSU has Michigan Sunday and I can't see them dialed in for 40 minutes.
A) RU usually plays 5 on 8 at home and on the road.....can anyone with a conscious, actually believe RU is going to get a fair whistle for 40 minutes.
B) There's the item of whether RU will get double teamed if the ball is dumped into the post....and if you don't score and get fouled, can Shaq, Shaq and Myles make FTs....??
C) There's unlikely to be additional points on the offensive glass.
Single digit game all the way because MSU has Michigan Sunday and I can't see them dialed in for 40 minutes.
And Ward was #2 on the team in conference games in both OReb and DReb. Hopefully we can force Goins/Tillman to play hard defense and pick up fouls, and that will open up the boards even more.
We had 15 ORebs last time we played them, but then again we missed 41 shots (they missed 31 shots at grabbed 13 ORebs).
Clearly we have to shoot better this time to have a chance to win. If we grab an OReb we have to convert on the second (or third) try, otherwise it’s a meaningless statistic.
Clearly we have to shoot better this time to have a chance to win. If we grab an OReb we have to convert on the second (or third) try, otherwise it’s a meaningless statistic.
