first official rankings come out today.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketbal...rankings-2019-20-season?utm_campaign=trending
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketbal...rankings-2019-20-season?utm_campaign=trending
Rutgers #61 in first NET rankings
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SFA opens at #74 in NET - right now looking like a Q2 home win.
Pitt opens at #81 - which would be a Q2 away loss.
Bonnies are at #189 - which would be a Q3 loss on a neutral court.
Edit: I'm an idiot. SFA WIN, not loss.
Pitt opens at #81 - which would be a Q2 away loss.
Bonnies are at #189 - which would be a Q3 loss on a neutral court.
Edit: I'm an idiot. SFA WIN, not loss.
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Big 10
1 Ohio State
11 Maryland
18 Penn State
21 Michigan
29 Michigan State
32 Illinois
33 Iowa
36 Indiana
44 Purdue
48 Minnesota
51 Wisconsin
61 Rutgers
153 Nebraska
174 Northwestern
10 Big 10 in the top 50...wow
Remember after Jan 1, the NET becomes increasingly accurate as the non conference slate is over and everyone settles into conference play
61 is a great landing spot for RU
RU opponents
29 Michigan State
51 Wisonsin
55 Seton Hall
74 Stephen F Austin
81 Pittsburgh
158 UMass
189 Saint Bonaventure
204 Bryant
239 Drexel
309 Niagara
325 FDU
165 Lafayette
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1 Ohio State
11 Maryland
18 Penn State
21 Michigan
29 Michigan State
32 Illinois
33 Iowa
36 Indiana
44 Purdue
48 Minnesota
51 Wisconsin
61 Rutgers
153 Nebraska
174 Northwestern
10 Big 10 in the top 50...wow
Remember after Jan 1, the NET becomes increasingly accurate as the non conference slate is over and everyone settles into conference play
61 is a great landing spot for RU
RU opponents
29 Michigan State
51 Wisonsin
55 Seton Hall
74 Stephen F Austin
81 Pittsburgh
158 UMass
189 Saint Bonaventure
204 Bryant
239 Drexel
309 Niagara
325 FDU
165 Lafayette
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Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240
Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353
Quadrant 1: 0-1
Quadrant 2: 3-1
Quadrant 3: 1-1
Quadrant 4: 4-0
RU will have plenty of Q1 and Q2 opportunities going forward.
Pitt is almost Q1. Really root for them to do well this year
Root for SHU to be solid enough to stay in Q2, little chance they can get to Q1 with those injuries.
Stephen F Austin is barely a Q2, I expect them to move out of the top 75 going forward unless they completely dominate the Southland.
Lets hope Lafayette wins the Patriot, they are barely out of Q3, important to keep them out of 4
St Bonnies is pretty bad at 189, that will rise but they really will have to do well to get into the top 100. I suspect their terrible sos is keeping them back
SOS matters and that is why Wisconsin is 51 despite being 5-5. Look for them to be this years Indiana where a shoddy record overall might be helped by going 500 in league play.
I hated scheduling UMass and early results could prove me right, they are barely a Q3 and could easily fall to Q4 and will never be in Q2.
Not sure if Bryant has a shot to get to top 160 but I suppose we can hope they win as much as possible
Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240
Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353
Quadrant 1: 0-1
Quadrant 2: 3-1
Quadrant 3: 1-1
Quadrant 4: 4-0
RU will have plenty of Q1 and Q2 opportunities going forward.
Pitt is almost Q1. Really root for them to do well this year
Root for SHU to be solid enough to stay in Q2, little chance they can get to Q1 with those injuries.
Stephen F Austin is barely a Q2, I expect them to move out of the top 75 going forward unless they completely dominate the Southland.
Lets hope Lafayette wins the Patriot, they are barely out of Q3, important to keep them out of 4
St Bonnies is pretty bad at 189, that will rise but they really will have to do well to get into the top 100. I suspect their terrible sos is keeping them back
SOS matters and that is why Wisconsin is 51 despite being 5-5. Look for them to be this years Indiana where a shoddy record overall might be helped by going 500 in league play.
I hated scheduling UMass and early results could prove me right, they are barely a Q3 and could easily fall to Q4 and will never be in Q2.
Not sure if Bryant has a shot to get to top 160 but I suppose we can hope they win as much as possible
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That page is all screwed up. Has our wins vs. Wisconsin, SHU, and SFA in the Q3 column, and our win vs UMass in the Q4 column.
Bryant (7-4) #204 W
Niagara (2-6) #309 W
Drexel (5-6) #239 W
St. Bonaventure (6-4) #189 L
SF Austin (8-2) #74 W
NJIT (2-9) #299 W
UMass (5-5) #158 W
Pitt (7-3) #81 L
MSU (7-3) #29 L
Wisc (5-5) #51 W
SHU (6-4) #55 W
Lafayette (7-2) #165
Caldwell NR
SBA is our lone bad loss, but their ranking will go up, A-10 is one of the better mid major conferences this year, Dayton #10, Duquesne #20, Richmond #22, VCU #52, St Louis #66, George Mason #67, and Rhode Island #73. Nebraska twice and Northwestern @home once, so 17 games against possible top 50-75 opponents in BIG, 8 home 9 road, 1-1 so far 15 tg.
Niagara (2-6) #309 W
Drexel (5-6) #239 W
St. Bonaventure (6-4) #189 L
SF Austin (8-2) #74 W
NJIT (2-9) #299 W
UMass (5-5) #158 W
Pitt (7-3) #81 L
MSU (7-3) #29 L
Wisc (5-5) #51 W
SHU (6-4) #55 W
Lafayette (7-2) #165
Caldwell NR
SBA is our lone bad loss, but their ranking will go up, A-10 is one of the better mid major conferences this year, Dayton #10, Duquesne #20, Richmond #22, VCU #52, St Louis #66, George Mason #67, and Rhode Island #73. Nebraska twice and Northwestern @home once, so 17 games against possible top 50-75 opponents in BIG, 8 home 9 road, 1-1 so far 15 tg.
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yeah I think they messed up. they get RUs record vs Q2 and Q3 right but some fool put those games in the wrong column
I know...has me confused.
I am guessing we end up with 13 Q1 games. I'd like to think we'd need to go at least 4-9 to go with a 20-12 or 20-13 record. Seeing this on paper makes it look very tough.
IN THEORY
win 9 Lafayette
10 Caldwell
11 at nebraska
12 Indiana
13 Minnesota
14 Nebraska
15 Purdue
16 Northwestern
17 Illinois
18 at Wisconsin
19 and 20 pick a Q1 win
21 win over 11-14 seed in B1G Thursday game
This would be 3-9 or 2-9 in Q1 games and we could have 21 wins (21-13) and may not get in
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current our sos is 110 overall and 118 non conference...I believe I saw on another predicted site we will go to about 69 overall.....its a decent enough sos and avoids the tragedy of NC State
we really need Pitt and SHU to have good seasons, if they go 17-14, those wins will mean zero as far as ncaa implications...and now someone wack me because I know i am wrong for speculating about ncaa stuff at this point in the year
also the Caldwell game will not count at all in NET rankings...its a worthless game so automatically take one win off of RU's final record.
A-10 has many teams in top 75 as the ACC, all it would take is a big road win for SBA against a Dayton #10, Duquesne #20 or Richmond #22 for a big jump in NET. They may get near 100 by the end of the season.
Nebraska and Northwestern will start to move way up in rankings as their schedule hits the B1G and even if those 2 are potentially 13th and 14th, they have players. I don't see any layups for any B1G teams in conference play on the road.
Big East
Butler = #4
Villanova = #24
Georgetown = #38
DePaul = #43
Marquette = #53
Seton Hall = #55
Creighton = #56
St. John’s = #65
Xavier = #71
Providence = #146
Not going to place any emphasis on the NET rankings in mid December but keep in mind that the Pac 12 is better than expected so far this season. It's probably best to check this in late January to see where things are headed.
PAC 12
9 Stanford
15 Arizona
17 Oregon
30 Arizona State
31 Colorado
35 Washington
40 Oregon State
54 Utah
77 USC
133 Washington State
169 UCLA
182 Cal
Butler = #4
Villanova = #24
Georgetown = #38
DePaul = #43
Marquette = #53
Seton Hall = #55
Creighton = #56
St. John’s = #65
Xavier = #71
Providence = #146
Not going to place any emphasis on the NET rankings in mid December but keep in mind that the Pac 12 is better than expected so far this season. It's probably best to check this in late January to see where things are headed.
PAC 12
9 Stanford
15 Arizona
17 Oregon
30 Arizona State
31 Colorado
35 Washington
40 Oregon State
54 Utah
77 USC
133 Washington State
169 UCLA
182 Cal
Richmond beat Wisconsin pretty handily on a neutral court, so they should be decent.
True, but these early rankings do help define which power conferences are strongest because inter-conference play is coming to an end. After that, it's just top teams in conference beating up on each other. So, while the specific top teams in each conference are yet to be determined, the number of ranked teams in each conference should not change dramatically, especially now that there are more home-and-home conference games.
Top 3 conferences...
#1 B1G (12 of 14 top 100, 4 top 25, 0 76-100)
#2 Big 12 (9 of 10 top 100, 3 top 25, 0 76-100)
#3 Big East (9 of 10 top 100, 2 top 25, 2 76-100)
Other P5
#4 Pac 12 (9 of 12 top 100, 3 top 25, 1 76-100)
#5 ACC (10 of 15 top 100, 2 top 25, 3 76-100)
#6 SEC (12 of 14 top 100, 3 top 25, 5 76-100, lowest P5 Tx A&M #281)
Best of other conferences AAC(6 of 12, Wichita St. #14), A-10(7 of 14, Dayton #10), MWC(5 of 11, San Diego St #3) and WCC(5 of 10, Gonzaga #6)
#1 B1G (12 of 14 top 100, 4 top 25, 0 76-100)
#2 Big 12 (9 of 10 top 100, 3 top 25, 0 76-100)
#3 Big East (9 of 10 top 100, 2 top 25, 2 76-100)
Other P5
#4 Pac 12 (9 of 12 top 100, 3 top 25, 1 76-100)
#5 ACC (10 of 15 top 100, 2 top 25, 3 76-100)
#6 SEC (12 of 14 top 100, 3 top 25, 5 76-100, lowest P5 Tx A&M #281)
Best of other conferences AAC(6 of 12, Wichita St. #14), A-10(7 of 14, Dayton #10), MWC(5 of 11, San Diego St #3) and WCC(5 of 10, Gonzaga #6)
So Mr. B1G says, "The stories of my demise have been greatly exaggerated..."
Seriously, what is the purpose of the game against Caldwell? Is it to play other players? All it does for the rotation players is potentially pick up bad habits and risk injuries. It’s a home game where almost no one will attend so it’s a wasted revenue producer as well. I’ve had season tickets for 30 years and you couldn’t pay me to attend that game.
They have played these type of games here and there in the past. I think it is just a schedule filler since other arrangements probably got cancelled
Bart says 69% you are right.......If it were an even money wager I am not sure which side I would take.
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Arizona state was apart of the last 4 in.
last years resume,
3-5 in quad 1 games
8-2 in quad 2 games
last years resume,
3-5 in quad 1 games
8-2 in quad 2 games
Nebraska was impressive in their last two games. Lost in OT @Indiana and just crushed Purdue (home). They will be tough. Feels like we are somewhat battle-tested with a tough four game stretch. My concern: We haven't won on the road yet.
I agree with your general sentiment, but when I was a student (during the Fred Hill era) we played a D2 school and there was open seating. Got to watch from center court like 5 rows back, was pretty sweet.
We only won by 9 IIRC.
No way Bart is that far off, take the 1+ wins for $$$.
Cavaet here..asu had strong q numbers but several warts including bad losses. Normally a profile like that would get them easily
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