Rutgers Baseball vs St Joseph

[Tango Two]

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[Tango Two]

Rutgers 9-3 5th

 

[RU Husky]

14-2 final. 3 more RU homers

 

[rudad02]

Homers are great, but against good pitching you've got to know how to manufacture runs. Doesn't seem to be our game.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Homers are great, but against good pitching you've got to know how to manufacture runs. Doesn't seem to be our game.

Michigan has the worst ERA in the conference.

 

[rudad02]

Michigan has the worst ERA in the conference.

Good, maybe we'll get a fair share of 4 baggers. Was speaking generally not specifically re: Michigan.

 

[RUTrack94]

Congrats on 40 wins!!!!

 

[80RU]

Homers are great, but against good pitching you've got to know how to manufacture runs. Doesn't seem to be our game.

The team is 20th in the NCAA in home runs per game. Yet they are second in the NCAA in runs per game. Not every team “manufacturers“ runs the same way. It seems to me they manufacture their share when needed.

 

[rudad02]

The team is 20th in the NCAA in home runs per game. Yet they are second in the NCAA in runs per game. Not every team “manufacturers“ runs the same way. It seems to me they manufacture their share when needed.

Don't think you understand the point.

 

[knight82]

I've seen this team manufacture plenty of runs this season

 

[RUshore99]

This team scores plenty of runs using singles and good baserunning. They also hit for power. There is balance. I really can't think of a series outside of Iowa where there was a production issue.

 

[knightfan7]

I've seen this team manufacture plenty of runs this season

They're #1 in hits.

RU climbed back up to #30 in the weeks Coaches Poll.

 

[RUBOB72]

What rudad is saying here at some point there will come a time when Rutgers will soon face one or two pitchers who could potentially shut those bats down.I would agree you may need to be able to manufacture runs when the long ball goes away. But damn for the most part I’ll take this teams power anytime. No fame is out of reach for the most part. My concern is do we have 2-3 guys who can flat out shut a team down on the mound. We have multiple pitchers who have been handled extremely well by this pitching coach but do we have a real # 1A and # 1B?

 

[FoxRU]

Don't think you understand the point.

What rudad is saying here at some point there will come a time when Rutgers will soon face one or two pitchers who could potentially shut those bats down.I would agree you may need to be able to manufacture runs when the long ball goes away. But damn for the most part I’ll take this teams power anytime. No fame is out of reach for the most part. My concern is do we have 2-3 guys who can flat out shut a team down on the mound. We have multiple pitchers who have been handled extremely well by this pitching coach but do we have a real # 1A and # 1B?

Totally agree re. the pitching but I don’t think RU’s offense lives and dies by the long ball. RU is top 2-5 in the country in hits, doubles, runs, scoring and batting average (.320); top 10 in slugging, top 20 in OBP and HR’s and even top 40 in walks. The team generally makes contact and hits the ball hard. They have beaten the daylights out of average competition. I thought RUDad was saying we are too reliant on HR’s. That is not the case. This is a balanced offense. It’s overly optimistic to think that they can keep up these #’s against better competition but they will get hits and score runs. The bigger concern, as you already stated, is whether the pitching can shut down better competition.

 

[Tango Two]

No. 25 Baseball Picks up 40th Victory with Win Over St. Joe's​

No. 25 Baseball Picks up 40th Victory with Win Over St. Joe's - Rutgers University Athletics

The No. 25 Rutgers baseball team dominated in all three phases to defeat Saint Joseph's in its home finale on Tuesday afternoon at Bainton Field.

scarletknights.com

 

[80RU]

What rudad is saying here at some point there will come a time when Rutgers will soon face one or two pitchers who could potentially shut those bats down.I would agree you may need to be able to manufacture runs when the long ball goes away. But damn for the most part I’ll take this teams power anytime. No fame is out of reach for the most part. My concern is do we have 2-3 guys who can flat out shut a team down on the mound. We have multiple pitchers who have been handled extremely well by this pitching coach but do we have a real # 1A and # 1B?

I think we all know what rudad was saying, we just don’t agree. This team did finish fourth in the Big Ten in sacrifice hits. And it did finish around the middle of the league for stolen bases, even though it had fewer appropriate stealing situations than a lesser hitting team. We have seen enough to know that the small ball game is in the arsenal. But again, a team with this kind of bats throughout the lineup will weigh build a run versus going for a crooked number inning based on the percentages until the later stages of the game. We should not confuse that with inability to manufacture a run when the inning and score dictates that.

 

[RUJMM78]

Rutgers success in the NCAA will be dependent on pitching morseo than hitting.The competition will be stronger which will mean Rutgers might not score at least ten runs a game.The lack of quality starting pitching could make every game hard to win.

 

[80RU]

Rutgers success in the NCAA will be dependent on pitching morseo than hitting.The competition will be stronger which will mean Rutgers might not score at least ten runs a game.The lack of quality starting pitching could make every game hard to win.

The loss of Fitzpatrick is huge

 

[rudad02]

What rudad is saying here at some point there will come a time when Rutgers will soon face one or two pitchers who could potentially shut those bats down.I would agree you may need to be able to manufacture runs when the long ball goes away. But damn for the most part I’ll take this teams power anytime. No fame is out of reach for the most part. My concern is do we have 2-3 guys who can flat out shut a team down on the mound. We have multiple pitchers who have been handled extremely well by this pitching coach but do we have a real # 1A and # 1B?

I'm not for throwing a homer back in the lake. I'm talking about very aggressive, out side of the box, in terms of today's game, tactics. Very aggressive leads--making that pitcher worry about you & come over or back for you. Not letting him play pitch & catch with the catcher & concentrate on the hitter--especially off second. Oftentimes this helps the hitter as the guy is often distracted enough to pipe one. Picking your spot & running off those leads, especially third--an easier base from which to get a big lead & jump. Always creates the chance for a throw down the left field line & a run scored, and for any other base runner to move. Once you've got them rattled a bit you'd be surprised how often a gap shot follows. That kind of ball feeds off itself.
Squeezing a run in, even early in the game, against a good chucker. Putting on the run & bunt--have the guy on first break & the batter square, put he ball down third, & the runner never stop at second but keep digging for third. Let's see if the short stop who was breaking to cover second can reverse & try to beat the runner to third & if whoever fields the ball can hit a moving target. Good luck with that! More often than not it means a run. Putting on the hit & run with a decent contact hitter up.
That kind of ball doesn't just happen even if you try to play it. It has to be practiced. Your guys have to know when to square on the squeeze & not tip it off, & to put the ball down an alley not back to the pitcher & of course how to bunt. The runner has to know when to break. Guys have to practice big leads in simulated drills with a pitcher, catcher, & infielders, They have to learn to push the envelope to their limits.
All this and more puts enormous pressure on the defense & pitching. It can break open a close game or win a low scoring squeaker. It is a philosophy. It has to be coached & practiced. I am simply saying that we don't play this type of game, nor for that matter do many other teams, if any at all. And that it can beat a tough chucker. As the old adage goes "there is more than one way to skin a cat".

 

[FoxRU]

I'm not for throwing a homer back in the lake. I'm talking about very aggressive, out side of the box, in terms of today's game, tactics. Very aggressive leads--making that pitcher worry about you & come over or back for you. Not letting him play pitch & catch with the catcher & concentrate on the hitter--especially off second. Oftentimes this helps the hitter as the guy is often distracted enough to pipe one. Picking your spot & running off those leads, especially third--an easier base from which to get a big lead & jump. Always creates the chance for a throw down the left field line & a run scored, and for any other base runner to move. Once you've got them rattled a bit you'd be surprised how often a gap shot follows. That kind of ball feeds off itself.
Squeezing a run in, even early in the game, against a good chucker. Putting on the run & bunt--have the guy on first break & the batter square, put he ball down third, & the runner never stop at second but keep digging for third. Let's see if the short stop who was breaking to cover second can reverse & try to beat the runner to third & if whoever fields the ball can hit a moving target. Good luck with that! More often than not it means a run. Putting on the hit & run with a decent contact hitter up.
That kind of ball doesn't just happen even if you try to play it. It has to be practiced. Your guys have to know when to square on the squeeze & not tip it off, & to put the ball down an alley not back to the pitcher & of course how to bunt. The runner has to know when to break. Guys have to practice big leads in simulated drills with a pitcher, catcher, & infielders, They have to learn to push the envelope to their limits.
All this and more puts enormous pressure on the defense & pitching. It can break open a close game or win a low scoring squeaker. It is a philosophy. It has to be coached & practiced. I am simply saying that we don't play this type of game, nor for that matter do many other teams, if any at all. And that it can beat a tough chucker. As the old adage goes "there are more ways to skin a cat".

You are correct, zero of the top 25 teams in the country are in the top 25 for stolen bases. However, I agree that when you face elite competition and you are at a disadvantage pitching wise, the more aggressive and annoying you can be on the bases to the opposing team’s pitching staff, the better.

 

[RUBOB72]

Very few teams in that top 25 are proficient at small ball though I’m somewhat confident coach Owens has stressed it for several weeks now. We have been pounding the ball so not able to actually tell. We are lacking in that top level starting pitching. We have a number of good to very good starters who can go 4-5 solid innings. Middle relievers have done their jobs all year however that will only take you so far in the regionals and beyond. How does Penders at UConn get that staff? Great history and having been there before allows U Conn to get a top staff. I have faith in our HC to get us a few studs.