Rutgers Boot Camp Report

[Knight Shift]

Start time moved to 6 a.m.
http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...ball-boot-camp-like-players-explain/79932652/
“From the first day, it’s harder than anything I’ve ever done,” Sneed said. “The stuff we do is no different than what everybody does, but it’s just the way we do it.

“(Parker) always preaches attitude and effort. In order to make it in these workouts – how brutal they are – effort is the only way. If you are not giving the right effort, they are going to let you know and then we are going to redo it.”

“I get tired, my muscles are fatigued, they’re hurting, I’m burning, I feel like I have nothing left,” Manning said, “and they teach me that I still have something left even though my mind is telling me there’s nothing left.”

“I expected nothing was going to be easy and I was going to have fight and work hard and earn everything,” Pollock said. “The difference (now) probably is attention to detail: Running two yards past the line, how you rack a weight, what you eat, get to class 15 minutes before it starts.”

 

[RU4Real]

“The difference (now) probably is attention to detail: Running two yards past the line, how you rack a weight, what you eat, get to class 15 minutes before it starts.”

Boom. That's how you learn to excel. It's basically what the military teaches you.

 

[RULoyal]

early is on time, on time is late, and late is unacceptable

 

[ArminRU]

Everyone thinks they train hard until they get on a real program.

Yea I'm sure the guys thought they trained hard last year, but they weren't training like champions do this year.

 

[Ataylor1989x]

An average workout consists of two hours in the weight room and then another two-plus hours of non-football drills on the field, players say.

I guess I never knew that a team cold hold a four hour workout.....that seems pretty daunting.

 

[vkj91]

An average workout consists of two hours in the weight room and then another two-plus hours of non-football drills on the field, players say.

I guess I never knew that a team cold hold a four hour workout.....that seems pretty daunting.

Not as daunting as tuition and student loans.

 

[REDRICH65]

You are right. Training lasts 4/5 years unless you turn pro. Loans last a lifetime. Ha !

 

[Roy_Faulker]

Interesting read.

I remember when RU played OSU at the shoe two seasons ago. Was at the game and had seen RU play in person a number of time live as well - I was amazed at how strong OSU was - everyone with the ball in their hands kept churning and driving for yards in a way I had never seen a team play. I know that OSU is on a different level talent wise but physically they were so dominant - hope that mentality applied in the RU program gets Rutgers to that baseline.

 

[jay_hq]

Boom. That's how you learn to excel. It's basically what the military teaches you.

its also how you learn to power point, word, and every thing else.

 

[Unionst]

An average workout consists of two hours in the weight room and then another two-plus hours of non-football drills on the field, players say.

I guess I never knew that a team cold hold a four hour workout.....that seems pretty daunting.

Aren't there NCAA limits on hours per week? I am almost certain there are for basketball.

 

[RUJMM78]

Boom. That's how you learn to excel. It's basically what the military teaches you.

Attention to detail is important in all phases of life.

 

[vkj91]

Aren't there NCAA limits on hours per week? I am almost certain there are for basketball.

Yes. Notice the subtle mention of non football related drills.

 

[Unionst]

Yes. Notice the subtle mention of non football related drills.

In basketball I believe the limit is on how much time coaches can be involved with the players, regardless of the activity. I would assume all sports have some sort of limits.

 

[Unionst]

Looks like 8 hours a week out of season for all athletic activities including S and C.
http://www.etsubucs.com/media/pdf/compliance/playing and practice for website.pdf

 

[Ataylor1989x]

Looks like 8 hours a week out of season for all athletic activities including S and C.
http://www.etsubucs.com/media/pdf/compliance/playing and practice for website.pdf

So two four-hour sessions?

 

[Yeah Baby]

Not as daunting as tuition and student loans.

Not sure what you job is but would you work as hard as these guys do for $28k/yr? I would not do it for the free ride. They are doing it for the love of the game and a shot at the next level.

 

[Rokodesh]

Not sure what you job is but would you work as hard as these guys do for $28k/yr? I would not do it for the free ride. They are doing it for the love of the game and a shot at the next level.

Hell yeah I would.

 

[vkj91]

Not sure what you job is but would you work as hard as these guys do for $28k/yr? I would not do it for the free ride. They are doing it for the love of the game and a shot at the next level.

Having been a full scholarship football player at another school you don't need to tell me why you think they do it.

 

[Caliknight]

Not sure what you job is but would you work as hard as these guys do for $28k/yr? I would not do it for the free ride. They are doing it for the love of the game and a shot at the next level.

It's not $28k a year, considering that would be take home. You are forgetting taxes, which likely brings it closer to $40k or so.

But they are getting something more valuable- an education. Which let's face it, a number of these kids would not be eligible for if not for their athletic talent. Leveraging that for a scholarship to a great school, doing something they love at the highest level with an outside chance to go pro, as opposed to the other option?

No brainer.

 

[Caliknight]

Having been a full scholarship football player at another school you don't need to tell me why you think they do it.

Hundreds of kids are doing the same thing in Olympic sports and don't even have the full ride.

 

[pmvon]

Not sure what you job is but would you work as hard as these guys do for $28k/yr? I would not do it for the free ride. They are doing it for the love of the game and a shot at the next level.

It's more than 28k and how many 18 yr old kids make that much? How many hours a week do they work on football? How many hours does a regular college kid have to work to make 28k net? How much extra classroom help do they get? How many wouldn't get into RU if it weren't for sports. Seems like a pretty good deal.

 

[Yeah Baby]

It's more than 28k and how many 18 yr old kids make that much? How many hours a week do they work on football? How many hours does a regular college kid have to work to make 28k net? How much extra classroom help do they get? How many wouldn't get into RU if it weren't for sports. Seems like a pretty good deal.

I'm not saying it's not a good deal but they work well over 40 hours a week and it's not easy labor. They are working hard and are accountable for probably around 50 hours a week in season and a little less in the off season. Again, I would not do what these kids do just for tuition and room and board at RU which I thought was around $28K a couple of years ago. I would do it for the love of the game and a shot to play in the NFL however.

 

[RU62]

Let's forget the pro shot theory. For many it's an opportunity to get an education which invludes both on and off the field learning. Help when needed and continued growth with the ability one has. It's preparation for life. Looking at it another way...why do many young people sign up for the military both as a learning and growth situation or a career.

Bottom.line it's a choice one makes and for various reasons. And lets not try to paint an overall picture of so so jocks who wouldn't be at college were it for sports. Yes for some it does provide an opportunity buy there are many bright and intelligent young people who at both sports and excel in the classroom and labs and who appreciate the lessons of teamwork and dedication by participating in athletic competition or related activities. It's all good and can be summed up in three words - discipline, structure and teamwork.

 

[Roy_Faulker]

Don't forget the side benefits of status on campus....

 

[yesrutgers01]

Impossible to pigeonhole every player into a single reason why they do it. For some, it is the shot at the NFL. Others, the education, some, a combo and then you do have some tgat consider it a party.
It is a good deal but no one is going to do it just for the love of the game. Even a walkon...he is looking for the shot at a scholarship.
But anyone that thinks it is easy, is crazy.

 

[imbazza2]

I'm not saying it's not a good deal but they work well over 40 hours a week and it's not easy labor. They are working hard and are accountable for probably around 50 hours a week in season and a little less in the off season. Again, I would not do what these kids do just for tuition and room and board at RU which I thought was around $28K a couple of years ago. I would do it for the love of the game and a shot to play in the NFL however.

Get real I sure as hell would if I went to work right out of HS, 40 hrs/week at $10/hr X 52 weeks = $21K for the rest of your life. A Rutgers degree will double that on graduation almost.
1) they do it for the love of the game I assume you never played college level FB. It is a rush and in today's society it is a social perk.
2) Many would not get in Rutgers otherwise or for many any college.
3) For many this is first in family to attend college Family Pride/family esteem and family bootstrap i.e. he will help his family. you may not comprehend, if you are a white middle class human
4) BTW it is a rush to work out like that afterwards the adrenaline carries you thru the day. You are ALIVE can not beat it.
Oh yes to be young again.
The point is you can not put a dollar value on the gift of youthful enthusiasm and a toned body.